Tariq Nasheed on Breakfast Club

[poppajaro]

This guy is smart but a bit misinformed on quite a few topics.

 

[filial_piety]

If you listen to tariq on a routine and not just watch/listen to him on the occassion, he constantly gives advice on how to identify and counter a system that affects what we call black people in a negative way. I am sure he understands that ALL black people not gonna team up together. As of matter of fact I know he doesn't because he has said repeatedly on different occassions that we cant save everybody and we cant feel bad about it.


You might have a slightly different perspective on what he is about rather than what in actuality he is about. He gives you information on how a certain system works against black people and gives some guidance on how to go about countering the system so that likelihood of a black person being taken advantage of is minimized. He doesnt expect every black person to listen because that is unrealistic.

I am not sure about the problem you have with black people having the "same agenda". That is how group work together by having the "same agenda".

And I respectfully disagree. I've listened to his shows for years now.

See this idea that a "system effects black people" (<------a common phrase used amongst he and his followers) is similar to stating that "black people" occupy the same position in our society simply by being "black" while discounting the economic,political, and regional diversity of blacks over the last century or so. Blacks historically in this country for the most part did occupy the same status under slavery and resided in the same regions at one point, but a lot of that has changed over the past 100 years. The black middle class, is the largest that it has ever been and for the most part has practiced values that brought them into the middle class status that they occupy today. Essentially they are just now building generational wealth similar to how the middle class whites did some 50 odd years ago.

Black people who are poor still occupy a large disproportion of America's poor today. They are a product for the most part of generational poverty. People within that class generally have values different from those in the middle class, they also have different priorities, different needs and different viewpoints.

Black people who are generationally poor, are NOT going to share the same "agenda" as black people who are upwardly mobile and middle class. "White supremacy" effects them DIFFERENTLY and therefore their solutions to their problems are going to be prioritized and handled DIFFERENTLY.

In regards to Tariq and his message that every black person isn't going to listen to what he is saying... well that's simply due to the fact that he isn't speaking the language of every black person*


The whole idea of "group work together" with groups as large and diverse as blacks doesn't make any sense. If anything I'd advocate that Middle class blacks within the same region explore a similar agenda based on their economic standing and political needs, and for poor blacks to do the same RATHER than to force either group to minimize their priorities by gelling the two groups together.

If I'm black and middle class and if you ask me what's the most important issue that I have to deal with is, it will be very different than if you were to ask me that very same question if I were black and poor. "Race" ie the fact that we share the same pigmentation and roots in slavery isn't going to change that there are differences between them today),

Why is that so difficult is that to grasp?

I know the whole catch phrase of "coming together as black folk" sounds good in theory--but has anyone actually been able to articulate the fine details of just how that is suppose to happen?

Ok--we're all in a big room together--poor blacks and middle class blacks from all over the country---> what's next, where do we go from here? Please provide as much detail as possible.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I've probably been black longer than you've been alive.

But like I said, "white supremacy" (however you choose to define that) effects all groups differently. If you're wondering why blacks haven't "collectively" come together to achieve an agenda, it's because people (like yourself and Tariq) consciously refuse to acknowledge that all black demographics do not and would not share the same agenda based on history, geography, economics and politics within the US.

The black middle class today is the largest it has ever been--meanwhile the poorest blacks still occupy a disproportionate of America's poor. If you think that they are going to come together simply because of "race", then you're playing yourself.

All "black minds" are not going to "think alike" because blacks are too diverse. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Why does the Asian community come together regardless of nationality

 

[Ronnie Lott]

And I respectfully disagree. I've listened to his shows for years now.

See this idea that a "system effects black people" (<------a common phrase used amongst he and his followers) is similar to stating that "black people" occupy the same position in our society simply by being "black" while discounting the economic,political, and regional diversity of blacks over the last century or so. Blacks historically in this country for the most part did occupy the same status under slavery and resided in the same regions at one point, but a lot of that has changed over the past 100 years. The black middle class, is the largest that it has ever been and for the most part has practiced values that brought them into the middle class status that they occupy today. Essentially they are just now building generational wealth similar to how the middle class whites did some 50 odd years ago.

Black people who are poor still occupy a large disproportion of America's poor today. They are a product for the most part of generational poverty. People within that class generally have values different from those in the middle class, they also have different priorities, different needs and different viewpoints.

Black people who are generationally poor, are NOT going to share the same "agenda" as black people who are upwardly mobile and middle class. "White supremacy" effects them DIFFERENTLY and therefore their solutions to their problems are going to be prioritized and handled DIFFERENTLY.

In regards to Tariq and his message that every black person isn't going to listen to what he is saying... well that's simply due to the fact that he isn't speaking the language of every black person*


The whole idea of "group work together" with groups as large and diverse as blacks doesn't make any sense. If anything I'd advocate that Middle class blacks within the same region explore a similar agenda based on their economic standing and political needs, and for poor blacks to do the same RATHER than to force either group to minimize their priorities by gelling the two groups together.

If I'm black and middle class and if you ask me what's the most important issue that I have to deal with is, it will be very different than if you were to ask me that very same question if I were black and poor. "Race" ie the fact that we share the same pigmentation and roots in slavery isn't going to change that there are differences between them today),

Why is that so difficult is that to grasp?

I know the whole catch phrase of "coming together as black folk" sounds good in theory--but has anyone actually been able to articulate the fine details of just how that is suppose to happen?

Ok--we're all in a big room together--poor blacks and middle class blacks from all over the country---> what's next, where do we go from here? Please provide as much detail as possible.

It doesn't matter if you are a rich black person or a poor black person, we all still live under a system of WS

 

[Blackout]

Thanks for remembering me

I remember you too....























































































As being a bytch ass c00n. Take this neg

 

[filial_piety]

Why does the Asian community come together regardless of nationality

They don't.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

They don't.

White people do
Mexicans do
Asians do

 

[Ronnie Lott]

They don't.

Have you ever been to a Chinatown in a major city

 

[Blackout]

Have you ever been to a Chinatown in a major city

Good example

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Good example

Thanks bro. Chinatown has dozens of Asian nationalities that work side by side. Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Mongolians,japanese, Cambodians etc ALL have businesses and circulate their money within their community. They vote in blocks as Asians. They have their own schools, own banks , own import/export companies. And YOU HAVE NEVER EVER heard an Asian person get up in front of white people throwing other Asians under the bus. EVER

 

[Blackout]

Thanks bro. Chinatown has dozens of Asian nationalities that work side by side. Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Mongolians,japanese, Cambodians etc ALL have businesses and circulate their money within their community. They vote in blocks as Asians. They have their own schools, own banks , own import/export companies. And YOU HAVE NEVER EVER heard an Asian person get up in front of white people throwing other Asians under the bus. EVER

True and a white version is the Irish joining white people.

 

[MostReal]

I feel like I just watched Dylan

 

[MajorVitaman]

Why does the Asian community come together regardless of nationality

White people do
Mexicans do
Asians do

Have you ever been to a Chinatown in a major city

Thanks bro. Chinatown has dozens of Asian nationalities that work side by side. Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Mongolians,japanese, Cambodians etc ALL have businesses and circulate their money within their community. They vote in blocks as Asians. They have their own schools, own banks , own import/export companies. And YOU HAVE NEVER EVER heard an Asian person get up in front of white people throwing other Asians under the bus. EVER

Oriental grocery stores too

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Thanks bro. Chinatown has dozens of Asian nationalities that work side by side. Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Mongolians,japanese, Cambodians etc ALL have businesses and circulate their money within their community. They vote in blocks as Asians. They have their own schools, own banks , own import/export companies. And YOU HAVE NEVER EVER heard an Asian person get up in front of white people throwing other Asians under the bus. EVER

nikka you need to chill the fukk out with all this negativity towards the Asians. If you fukk up my General Tso connect ima come see you breh

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Oriental grocery stores too

I've had some bomb ass Vietnamese food in China Town