You are trying to make your point by looking up stats that only shows the efficiency of the Denver Broncos offense but what you are not looking up is how that offense effected the outcome of the game. Football is a game within a game....you cant just post stats that only benefit your argument when it doesn't really tell the whole story. Throughout Tebow's run he won because of TWO things. His team won the TOP battle vs the opponent or turned the ball over less.
Tebow kinda got a raw deal didn't he?
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You are trying to make your point by looking up stats that only shows the efficiency of the Denver Broncos offense but what you are not looking up is how that offense effected the outcome of the game. Football is a game within a game....you cant just post stats that only benefit your argument when it doesn't really tell the whole story. Throughout Tebow's run he won because of TWO things. His team won the TOP battle vs the opponent or turned the ball over less.
People still riding passionately for Tebow? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This shyt is Bobby Jindal Louisiana charter school textbook level of delusion and purposeful misinterpretation. I swear as I was skimming this thread I saw someone typed Tebow gave the Broncos that different vibe... word to R. Kells and Public Announcement.
This shyt is Bobby Jindal Louisiana charter school textbook level of delusion and purposeful misinterpretation. I swear as I was skimming this thread I saw someone typed Tebow gave the Broncos that different vibe... word to R. Kells and Public Announcement.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Wtf?????
They lost the time of possession battle with Tebow under center....period.
Your constant reach for the obscure and unmeasurable to defend your point is rubbish
Look at Terrell Owens. He's dangling out there in no-mans-land. It's awful and unfortunate but he kind of did it to himself too.
That's where Tim Tebow can end up. Tebow is going to have to suck it up, get his agent to put his name out there and be willing to do two things 1. take a big pay cut and 2. take any position.
That's where Tim Tebow can end up. Tebow is going to have to suck it up, get his agent to put his name out there and be willing to do two things 1. take a big pay cut and 2. take any position.
ProfessorEdee
More daps than posts!
Number of GMs that think Tebow deserves a chance - 0
Number of Coaches that think Tebow deserves a chance - 0
Number of Players fighting to give Tebow a chance - 0
Number of Stans rallying for Tebow -
Number of Coaches that think Tebow deserves a chance - 0
Number of Players fighting to give Tebow a chance - 0
Number of Stans rallying for Tebow -
Aren't you a Scout or something. Are you good at your job? what dont you understand?
Start#1 vs Miami Den W
Denver TOP:34:17
MIA TOP:33:19
Start #2 vs Det Den L
Denver TOP:30:2 Den W6
Det TOP: 29:34
Start #3 Vs OAK Den W
Denver TOP: 31:51
OAK TOP: 28:09
Start #4 vs KC Den W
Denver: 33:38
KC: 26:22
Start #5 vs. NYJ Den W
Denver TOP: 27:48
NYJ TOP: 32:12
Den won the turnover battle
Start #6 vs San Diego Den W
Denver TOP: 37:08
SD: 37:23
Start#7 vs Minn Den W
Denver TOP: 22:09
Minn TOP: 37:51
Denver Won the turnover battle
Start #8 vs Chi
Den TOP: 34:39
Chi TOP: 31:47
Thats his first 8 starts which propelled his team into the playoofs .Theres nothing obscure or unmeasurable about it . You can go look up the stats anywhere. If you focus your offense on Time Managent/ball control and dont turnover the ball you can win. Your defense will be on the field less and they will be better rested and have a lower ppg against them. Im not the biggest Tebow fan. Im a raider fan and cant stand denver but you can't deny what he did and that he can help a team out.
filial_piety
Banned
I never could understand the hate behind this guy...I mean he doesn't have the cadance of Dan Marino...but I was pretty impressed by the playoff run he had 2 years ago. His stats were pretty ugly from my understanding...but the guy won games. I don't see how any of these teams who are not playoff bound have not given this guy a chance yet to actually run the offense.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
You can use whatever excuse you want for why they were supposedly winning, but the facts are they were terrible before Tebow took over, and he led them to a winning record and a playoff trip and their only playoff win in the last 7 years.
outside of practice, tebo completed passes at the tune of below 50% (absolutely ridiculous in todays game) and the offense under him leading the league in 3 and outs...
yet HE wins games, not the team around him
media really got you brainwashed huh
i think you the one who is brainwashed. The fact that he didn't get a real chance to compete with Sanchez is a joke. Sanchez is a worse starting QB than Tebow. There is no doubt about that. So are guys like Brandon Weeden and Blane Gabbart. Tebow could start over either of those 3 guys.
Why didn't he start at the end of the season? What's the worst that could happen? They were a terrible team without him, maybe you put him in any you win some games. Maybe you dont and you cut him like you did anyway. No big loss either way.
This is a good point. And here is the fact people need to realize. There are NFL teams...front office/coach/GM that do stupid shyt and get fired for it every year. So if you're gonna use the argument "well, if he was the best guy they would have played him" then get the fukk out of here.
Why wasn't STL starting Kurt Warner over Trent Green?
Why wasn't Dallas starting Tony Romo over Drew Bledsoe?
Why wasn't New England starting Tom Brady over Bledsoe?
Why did San Diego pick Phil Rivers over Drew Brees?
Teams make bad evaluations all the time. Sometimes it's because they can't correctly evaluate their players. Sometimes it's because some players you literally can't get a read on how productive they will be until they get on the field.
Tebow will never be the most fundamentally sound passer, but he wins games. He always has. And every year, a handful of coaches and GMs who do nothing but lose games will keep getting fired. And the #1 reason these people get fired is the inability to find a quarterback. They fall in love with some "technically sound" QB who "looks the part" like a Kyle Boller ass nikka, miss the playoffs, lose their jobs. Rinse and repeat.
This is a good point. And here is the fact people need to realize. There are NFL teams...front office/coach/GM that do stupid shyt and get fired for it every year. So if you're gonna use the argument "well, if he was the best guy they would have played him" then get the fukk out of here.
Why wasn't STL starting Kurt Warner over Trent Green?
Why wasn't Dallas starting Tony Romo over Drew Bledsoe?
Why wasn't New England starting Tom Brady over Bledsoe?
Why did San Diego pick Phil Rivers over Drew Brees?
Teams make bad evaluations all the time. Sometimes it's because they can't correctly evaluate their players. Sometimes it's because some players you literally can't get a read on how productive they will be until they get on the field.
Tebow will never be the most fundamentally sound passer, but he wins games. He always has. And every year, a handful of coaches and GMs who do nothing but lose games will keep getting fired. And the #1 reason these people get fired is the inability to find a quarterback. They fall in love with some "technically sound" QB who "looks the part" like a Kyle Boller ass nikka, miss the playoffs, lose their jobs. Rinse and repeat.
Let's not act like warner, brady, and romo were established guys. Warner was stocking shelves for crying out loud and romo and brady were drafted late.
Brees was a good QB for the chargers why would they start rivers over him.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
Im the one who is brainwashed ?
by whom ?its YOU who thinks QBs and not teams, win games in a sport where 22 players play a down, not teams.
where did you see that he didnt get a real chance to compete with sanchez ?
again, you are basing your shyt off pure speculation, when people have told you that he sucked in practice.
besides weeden all of those guys had years much better than tebows year of starting.
and weeden was a rookie last year.
again, tebow passed below 50% two years back....thats absolutely terrible in todays passing league. upper tier qbs throw over 70% completions. guys like weeden and gabbart throw closer to 60% than 50%
I dont know why jets didnt replace sanchez with mcelroy for most of last games, but starting tebow would be useless. he has no real future of any nfl team at quarterback and zero upside at quarterback. and mcelroy did play a couple of games at the end iirc
yseJ
Empire strikes back
kurt warner was an arena leaguer and he started when trent green went down.
tony romo replaced bledsoe as soon as bledsoe was
brady replaced bledsoe only because of injury.
all those qbs were undrafted/late picks who were replacing former all-stars
phil rivers had a great start to his career and brees, while having a good amount of weapons, wasnt amazing in SD, it took payton and specific offense to get him to be elite.
the problem with your comparisons is that all those guys could pass the ball.
tebow cannot.
and again, you cannot use the 'he wins' argument because in football, TEAMS win games. not qbs. no matter how hard the media dikkrides the qbs, theyre just a cog.
