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They definitely aren’t.

In comparison nearly all people who are in STEM programs at schools like Caltech and M.I.T are actual geniuses.

What it takes to make it into those schools is far more spectacular than what it takes to make it into Google. For example, for those schools the kids have shown that they can learn and ace college-level Multivariable Calculus courses by the time they’re 15 or 16. If you can do that then you’re clearly made from something different. Not to mention all the extracurriculars. Someone mentioned in one of these youtube videos that these kids by the time are finished with high school are more accomplished that 90% of the working adults and that is not a stretch to say.

To make it into Google all you got to do is pass some Leetcode rounds.

What high schools are teaching multi variable calculus definitely wasn't the ones in my area. Calling people geniuses when they have had access to better resources is crazy.
 

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I wasn't even allowed to do undergrad research in college. I would ask my professors how to get involved in research they would straight kick me out their office. shyt yall find geniuses level stuff I look at as privileged.
 

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What high schools are teaching multi variable calculus definitely wasn't the ones in my area. Calling people geniuses when they have had access to better resources is crazy.
They don’t learn it in high school, these people take them in college like at a local State school, while attending high school.



That girl took Discrete Math, Linear Algebra and Calculus III from a college at age 15.

If you look at a loot of these people who attend these schools for STEM their transcripts are similar.

Another one of these girls had an internship for a defense contractor, while in High School and went onto M.I.T.
 
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To make it into Google all you got to do is pass some Leetcode rounds.
:mjlol:It sounds simple but it's not. Google asks leetcode hards. You have to be very smart to work at Google. Even just understanding the question on some of the leetcode hards can be difficult. But when you focus on the top 1% of people yeah they'll make others look mediocre
 

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They don’t learn it in high school, these people take them in college, while attending high school.



If you look at a loot of these people who attend these schools for STEM their transcripts are similar.


Nobody in my high school or the surrounding high schools were attending college classes. I was friends with multiple valedictorians they didn't attend college in hs because the opportunity wasn't there.
 

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Nobody in my high school or the surrounding high schools were attending college classes. I was friends with multiple valedictorian they didn't attend college in hs because the opportunity wasn't there.
Like mentioned, at my school (Cal State x) we had a high school student in our Physics III and Diff Eq course. I’m thinking you have to have a crazy pass for it or something.

I mean we’ve seen people have an M.S at 20 from other schools.
 

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Or be an asian from california I assume that's probably most of the battle.
Like mentioned, at my school (Cal State x) we had a high school student in our Physics III and Diff Eq course. I’m thinking you have to have a crazy pass for it or something.

I mean we’ve seen people have an M.S at 20 from other schools.
@DJSmooth is right. These kids have the resources and are groomed to be academically excellent from a young age. Geniuses are usually not born they are made.

My favorite example is this guy in eastern Europe who wanted his daughters to be chess grandmasters, so he taught them and played chess with them since they were like 3 years old and once they started beating him he took them to play in parks against grown men then tournaments and fiercer and fiercer competition until the were like grandmasters in their early teens.

One of the daughters became one of the greatest chess players of all time and the other two who stopped playing chess to pursue other things were geniuses still in their own right at it.

Genius is usually attributed to intangibles but people ignore the countless hours spent improving in the shadows.
 

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Or be an asian from california I assume that's probably most of the battle.
From what I understand is both of her parents are traditional Engineers and in addition to her schooling offered a lot of Math and Physics insights to her while she was in Elementary school and High School. It may have been her or another YouTuber I’m confusing her with. I know for sure her father is though at least.

When you think about it, even in Private schools most Elementary school teachers’ highest level of Math is maybe Pre-Calculus. Getting to learn Physics and Math from parents who’ve taken 4+ years of it in college, including many Upper Division courses that apply it who then work on Engineering everyday has a lot of insights with these subjects at an intimate level that they can pass on.

In addition, both parents being Engineers means she probably has some innate ability at it more than most kids.
 
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@DJSmooth is right. These kids have the resources and are groomed to be academically excellent from a young age. Geniuses are usually not born they are made.

My favorite example is this guy in eastern Europe who wanted his daughters to be chess grandmasters, so he taught them and played chess with them since they were like 3 years old and once they started beating him he took them to play in parks against grown men then tournaments and fiercer and fiercer competition until the were like grandmasters in their early teens.

One of the daughters became one of the greatest chess players of all time and the other two who stopped playing chess to pursue other things were geniuses still in their own right at it.

Genius is usually attributed to intangibles but people ignore the countless hours spent improving in the shadows.

When I lived in California I knew this family that sent their young daughter to a school that taught 3 different languages. It was like English, Spanish, and Portuguese. When she grows up to speak 3 or more language does that make her a genius? or did the school just start teaching her early on in her youth when it was much easier to learn another language.
 

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@DJSmooth is right. These kids have the resources and are groomed to be academically excellent from a young age. Geniuses are usually not born they are made.

My favorite example is this guy in eastern Europe who wanted his daughters to be chess grandmasters, so he taught them and played chess with them since they were like 3 years old and once they started beating him he took them to play in parks against grown men then tournaments and fiercer and fiercer competition until the were like grandmasters in their early teens.

One of the daughters became one of the greatest chess players of all time and the other two who stopped playing chess to pursue other things were geniuses still in their own right at it.

Genius is usually attributed to intangibles but people ignore the countless hours spent improving in the shadows.
I think it’s definitely a combination of both imo.

I remember when I was in school and saw adding double digits for the first time I picked it up really easily while my classmates were literally crying and saying “It’s too hard.” I wasn’t taught Math outside of school and in national tests scored in the top 2% throughout elementary for Math. Same goes for my brother who is getting his M.S Math right now.

I do think nurture has a larger role in it, but can’t discount innate ability. Again, someone who has two Engineers as parents probably has some good capacity for it out the womb.
 
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From what I understand is both of her parents are Engineers and in addition to her schooling offered a lot of Math and Physics insights to her while she was in Elementary school and High School. It may have been her or another YouTuber I’m confusing her with. I know for sure her father is though at least.

When you think about it, even in Private schools most Elementary school teachers’ highest level of Math is maybe Pre-Calculus. Getting to learn Physics and Math from parents who’ve taken 4+ years of it and work on Engineering everyday has a lot of insights with the subjects at an intimate level that they can pass on.

In addition, both parents being Engineers means she probably has some innate ability at it more than most kids.

I agree you need some innate ability for memory recall and critical thinking. Two engineering parents willing to sit down and groom their child is probably the most important factor.
 
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