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He said that Lamar wants to be involved in the HC search and that interviewing is an all day event so if he wants to be involved he needs to be in the building. He said Lamar is on board so we'll see what comes from that. I thought the press conference was pretty good and Bisciotti kept it 100. What I found interesting is that he says he wants to win a few more SBs and then step away. Sounds to me like they are going to really take their time with this coaching search and make sure they get it right.


We're so used Harbaugh's caginess during press conferences sounding like a politician/personal PR.
I really appreciate Bisciotti's candor, vulnerability, and honesty.
Great, clear insights...no need to decipher or crack a code lol
 

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We're so used Harbaugh's caginess during press conferences sounding like a politician/personal PR.
I really appreciate Bisciotti's candor, vulnerability, and honesty.
Great, clear insights...no need to decipher or crack a code lol
Yeah his honesty was something we really needed. Put to bed all these claims about Lamar having a bad relationship with coaches being the reason for Harbs being gone. I feel like Bisciotti decided to move on from Harbs no matter what the outcome of the Steelers game was. The loss just sped the process up.
 

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You're right Marvin Lewis old-school 2000's defense was a 4-3 single-gap fit.
Then switched to 3-4 with Rex Ryan/Mike Nolan....Suggs being a stand-up OLB (I can be wrong).
With Orr we're usually 4-2-5 nickel (w/3 safeties)...not necessarily a pure 3-4..

I feel like Orr's biggest issue was how he used our scheme not the scheme itself.
He was terrible at calling coverages (soft zones, lack of disguise, conservative stunts, leverage issues) and how players execute leverage and spacing.
-Soft off-zone/spot-drop zones....DBs would be 8-12 yards off. We constantly conceded chunk plays, couldn't get off the field, and were giving up first downs.
-Static disguises misaligned LBs/DBs so bad that they would be out of position post-snap.
-LBs/DBs taking inside leverage when the safety is already inside, leaving the outside wide open lol.

Solution moving forward.....
-Pees bend but don't break zones is garbage. NEVER AGAIN!
-Implement more match coverage (Quarters / Cover 3 Match / 2-read) as our base coverage. Instead of soft spot drop Cover 3/Cover 4.
-Allow our coerners to challenge receivers on their release....through press, press-bail, squeeze routes, etc

-Orr always talked about organized chasos but guys who excelled with Macdonald seemed confused pre-snap with Orr....I don't get it
-With Orr QBs seemed to always have a clean pre-snap picture lol
-Under Mac, offenses saw chaos pre-snap and didn’t know who was in the rush or in coverage. Under Orr it’s been much flatter.
-Re-install a weekly disguise package
-Get back to 5-man simulated pressures on passing downs:

Under Orr, we leaned heavily on two-gapping out of those hybrid fronts, which is fine, but it turns the DL into block-eaters instead of play-makers and asks the LBs to be perfect.
-Mix in single-gap “attack” calls where everyone has one gap and plays vertical.
-Use slants and angle fronts so OL can’t just double Travis and Dremont Jones then climb to the ILBs.
-For passing downs turn Travis Jones, and Peebles (lol) loose with stunts.
-Use wider alignments (wide-9 loose 5's) in high % passing downs
- We can still keep the 2 gap stuff for short yardage and some early downs....but we gotta mix it up

I'm just a regular guy in Salesforce/NetSuite consulting....Feel like I can scheme something up better than Orr smh
Rex had them running a hybrid defense that had 3-4 and 4-3 looks in it with sizzle lining up as a linebacker and as a defensive end. Orr seems to have learned from the Pees tree since that’s who he played under and that man’s scheme was little more than a glorified prevent defense all game every game. Disguise little, telegraph blitzes, run only a few different looks to blitz from, play off the receivers, and be willing to concede the catch with the goal of making the tackle at the point of the catch but then teach bad tackling while conceding short passes on short distances to the 1st down too. Their only priority seems to be not giving up 50+ yard passes through the air but they end up doing that a lot anyway. This is why I want a defensive minded coach. They need to re-learn how to finish games on defense.
 

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Yeah his honesty was something we really needed. Put to bed all these claims about Lamar having a bad relationship with coaches being the reason for Harbs being gone. I feel like Bisciotti decided to move on from Harbs no matter what the outcome of the Steelers game was. The loss just sped the process up.


I'm glad you mentioned this.
John Harbaugh was only looking out for himself.
Willing to throw his coordinators and franchise QB under the bus.
Frequently marginalized, Lamar's injuries are likely the source of negative reports. All those negative stories and not 1 that made Harbaugh look bad lol.


 

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Rex had them running a hybrid defense that had 3-4 and 4-3 looks in it with sizzle lining up as a linebacker and as a defensive end. Orr seems to have learned from the Pees tree since that’s who he played under and that man’s scheme was little more than a glorified prevent defense all game every game. Disguise little, telegraph blitzes, run only a few different looks to blitz from, play off the receivers, and be willing to concede the catch with the goal of making the tackle at the point of the catch but then teach bad tackling while conceding short passes on short distances to the 1st down too. Their only priority seems to be not giving up 50+ yard passes through the air but they end up doing that a lot anyway. This is why I want a defensive minded coach. They need to re-learn how to finish games on defense.


Preciate the knowledge family!

I'm also leaning towards a defensive-minded coach as well.
 

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“You’ve gotten to know Lamar about as well as I have,” Bisciotti said. “Lamar is really, really a non-confrontational person. When I spoke with him Monday night, he said to me, ‘Everybody’s saying I have a problem with [offensive coordinator Todd] Monken. I don’t really a have a problem with Monken. I don’t know where that comes from.’ And he said, ‘I hear that I’ve got a problem with Harbs, and I don’t have a problem with Harbs. I don’t know where that comes from. We gotta make changes, probably, but that’s probably more for you and [DeCosta].'"
 

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I'm hoping someone on the Ravens or their new DC is watching the Texans dominate with their defense. They need to be able pressure and sack the qb with 4. Dropping 7 into coverage is the best strategy in today's NFL.

I know they like Hamilton closer to the LOS, and he's very effective at blitzing, but they still need to find ways to have him in primarily in coverage.

They have Anderson Jr and Hunter. Everybody can't replicate that.
 

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They have Anderson Jr and Hunter. Everybody can't replicate that.

I missed that lol....I'm cool on the Texans DC
No thanks
On top of that, Ryans runs that defense, who comes from the Robert Saleh tree. I'm not even sure what the Texans DC even does.
GM will have to hit on picks, that is what got the texans Anderson AND the DC will need to know how to use them. They drafted Stroud and Anderson together, I think it was said they traded back into the first round to get Anderson. Whoever made that decision had an eye for talent.
 

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On top of that, Ryans runs that defense, who comes from the Robert Saleh tree. I'm not even sure what the Texans DC even does.
GM will have to hit on picks, that is what got the texans Anderson AND the DC will need to know how to use them. They drafted Stroud and Anderson together, I think it was said they traded back into the first round to get Anderson. Whoever made that decision had an eye for talent.

Nah, they had picks 2 and 12. They traded pick 12 plus 4 other picks to move up to 3 to get Will. It only worked because they had two 1st's.
 

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“You’ve gotten to know Lamar about as well as I have,” Bisciotti said. “Lamar is really, really a non-confrontational person. When I spoke with him Monday night, he said to me, ‘Everybody’s saying I have a problem with [offensive coordinator Todd] Monken. I don’t really a have a problem with Monken. I don’t know where that comes from.’ And he said, ‘I hear that I’ve got a problem with Harbs, and I don’t have a problem with Harbs. I don’t know where that comes from. We gotta make changes, probably, but that’s probably more for you and [DeCosta].

Did someone leak false info to Preston or did he make up all this shyt himself?

Doesn't matter now I guess.
 

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- Cut Marlon
- Resign Likely
- Get resolution and a decision on Madabuike.
- Look to move on from Roquan. He's getting paid too much money to play his best football on home games when Ray Lewis is in the building.
 
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