The Big 12 officially needs to DIE, here's why....

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Last season :what:

That's a LIE.

Check your FACTS homie, Baylor had the same record and BEAT them head to head so they won the conference.

Big 12 tried to break thier own rules and give the chip to TCU cause they were ranked higher so they could make the playoff but it ain't work!

TCU has never won the BIG 12 since they been in it :russ:
 

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That's a LIE.

Check your FACTS homie, Baylor had the same record and BEAT them head to head so they won the conference.

Big 12 tried to break thier own rules and give the chip to TCU cause they were ranked higher so they could make the playoff but it ain't work!

TCU has never won the BIG 12 since they been in it :russ:
The Big 12 says otherwise
 

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Your real problem is that Bob Stoops hired an Air Raid OC in Lincoln Riley instead of hiring an OC that runs a Run based-spread system.

You don't know what ur talking about. :comeon:

We had TWO RB's this year with over 1,000 yards. How many other teams in the Big 12 or ANY other conf can say that? Baylor runs a ton and doesn't have 2 guys with 1,000 yards.

We don't pass as much as you and others think.
 
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tOSU (2014), UF (2006 & 2008), Texas (2005), & Auburn (2010) have won national titles with Run based-spread offenses.

Oregon in 2010 & Auburn in 2013 almost won.


I don't think anybody has won a national title with a Spread-to-pass system like the Air Raid.
All of those teams had grown up lineman in size in the trenches, thats my point. And LEGIT D to match. Its not JUST about the spread if you actually read my reply.

Dont ever try to score points on me
 

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There was a point watching the game where I felt it was varsity sized men eventually overwhelming a gutsy and inspired JV squad. I don't get how OU could have a squad full of Trxas niqqas built like Lil NY niqqas. These SEC teams begin to overwhelm us. Shepard reminded me of my time at OU, being on the scout team and beating the breaks off niqqas into they started to grab my then 175 pound ass and started controlling me. Our midget WRS couldn't do shyt against y'all athletics corners. They were straight overpowered. Then our line play, the d-line lacked the depth to keep dudes off them. Same with the O-line. We just looked physically weaker. And Mayfield looked like a child trying to play qb. I felt as if I was watching Colt McCoy vs Bama.

And that the best the Big 12 had to offer?

Mannn....what happened to "Sooner Iron?" Big beefy ass niqqas with no necks? Corey Mayfield ass niqqas?
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Goon ass Aubrey Beavers ass Houston niqqas who I saw kick a girl down a flight of stairs and start a brawl at the Waffle House?
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How the fukk did we become a bunch of smurf ass niqqas?

LOL....:russ:

Well my beef isn't with Shepard. That kid would play and start for any team. He had a "quiet" the other day with still 7-8 catches for close to 100 yards.

My beef is with....the beef. I mean nobody has players as big as Alabama, but our OL/DL players looked smaller acrosss the board in comparison to Clemson. Where's the beef? And our CB's physically aren't on par with theirs. But our CBs were very good in pass coverage.

Next year you'll see a few WR's over 6'4 for us, and hopefully our OL develops. Orlando Brown Jr was AWFUL at the beginning of the year, but was really good be the end of the year.

But yeah, this goes back to my point. You recruit/build smaller, quicker players to play the type of schemes you have to play in the Big 12.....but that doesn't help you when you play against the other confs in a big game.

And we still recruit Texas heavily for most everything, but we have several kids from Cali/Az. It's not so much A&M that altered the recruiting game, it's moreso Baylor/TCU taking the kids who want to play now and be apart of a new movement.
 

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I think we're all in agreement that the proliferation of the Mike Leach coaching tree and the associated Air Raid offense really took the Big12 away from the more conventional styles played by the rest of the country.

I also think it has hampered Texas' rebuilding efforts as QBs and WRs are looking to make a name at Air Raid schools and put up crazy stats instead of thinking about joining UTs ranks in a "normal" system.

The high flying style of play is a great equalizer though. Really gets the most out of the available talent.

I honestly don't know what the conference can do to be more competitive nationally given the talent levels and style of play.

yeah, the spread in general WAS designed to mask deficiencies. To be quick, rather than fast, and basically use a superior opponents athleticism against them. We beat Alabama a few years ago, but Derrick Henry still ran over us at WILL. We beat them with quick hitting plays in space.

But yeah, like I said in my OP....there's no balance anymore. Colorado, Nebraska, a couple other teams always brought a balance to the Big 12.
 

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what if the Big Ten extended an invitation to Oklahoma and they also extended one to another Big 12 school. Do you think Oklahoma would take it?

I don't think we can. :francis:

Pretty sure OU is required to carry Ok St where ever we go. So unless the Big 10 wanted Ok St...which academically they prob wouldn't....though they are a great Agricultural school...it prob wouldn't happen.

And of course we're still tied to Texas for now.
 

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You don't know what ur talking about. :comeon:

We had TWO RB's this year with over 1,000 yards. How many other teams in the Big 12 or ANY other conf can say that? Baylor runs a ton and doesn't have 2 guys with 1,000 yards.

We don't pass as much as you and others think.
Thats like when people tell me Pagano's record in Indy. Competition. Those stays are inflated cuz nobody in the conference plays D. OU is soft. Thats the biggest prob.
 

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Thats like when people tell me Pagano's record in Indy. Competition. Those stays are inflated cuz nobody in the conference plays D. OU is soft. Thats the biggest prob.

nikka, get outta my thread. :ufdup:

Our pass defense was one of the top-ranked in the country after being the worst(literally) last year. Clemson couldn't throw against us, and Watson had more passing yards, completions than Mayfield did all season.

After our OL got better, we ran the ball well. They were just outmatched physically/athletically against Clemson. Which is my whole point.
 
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what if the Big Ten extended an invitation to Oklahoma and they also extended one to another Big 12 school. Do you think Oklahoma would take it?
Oklahoma and iowa state would fit well, there would be some new, rebuilt and reaffirmed rivalries between oklahoma - iowa - iowa state - Nebraska. Or Ok and kansas....
 

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nikka, get outta my thread. :ufdup:

Our pass defense was one of the top-ranked in the country after being the worst(literally) last year. Clemson couldn't throw against us, and Watson had more passing yards, completions than Mayfield did all season.

After our OL got better, we ran the ball well. They were just outmatched physically/athletically against Clemson. Which is my whole point.
Breh, im telling u this cuz u need to hear it. Yall soft and ya coach is a moron. I knew yall wasnt sh1t when Charlie Strong styled on yall.

I know yall better stay in the conference yall in. Yall would be food in every major conference. :francis:
 

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:mjlol: Basically your problem isn't The Big 12. Your real problem is that Bob Stoops hired an Air Raid OC in Lincoln Riley instead of hiring an OC that runs a Run based-spread system.

I remember when Lincoln Riley was hired last year, Big12 fans were happy. While OU fans were disappointed because they wanted a spread-option offense & were hoping to get Scott Frost from Oregon.




I've said this a few times after watching all these soft Air Raid Big 12 teams (& even A&M) get whooped this postseason, I'm now glad Sonny Cumbie from TCU turned down the UT OC job & UT/Coach Strong went with the Briles/Veer 'n' Shoot Offense which is more of a Spread-to-Run system. :whew:

You don't know what ur talking about. :comeon:

We had TWO RB's this year with over 1,000 yards. How many other teams in the Big 12 or ANY other conf can say that? Baylor runs a ton and doesn't have 2 guys with 1,000 yards.

We don't pass as much as you and others think.

Air Raid gonna Air Raid. At it's core it's still a Spread-to-pass system.

I haven't looked up the stats, but I'm almost sure Baylor is a better rushing team than OU. Even if that isn't the case; OU is an Air Raid, so they probably have finesse rushing attack like Oregon.
 

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Yall keep falling for thier bullshyt flashy gimmicks though :snoop:

I'm reminded of 2010 when Oregon was putting up like 40 PPG on offense and when the National Title game came around, they couldn't score 20 against Auburn, a defense that honestly wasn't that good with the exception of Nick Fairley
 
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