The big myth about why Black kids can’t get ahead

[Tair]

I know what the article says...
everything yall say is regurgitated stuff from the same schools and articles I went to and read.

I only care about the stats...
it all starts at home.

Do you believe black kids arent testing well because the curriculum is too easy for them?
or is it because they arent even trying?

Have you been to majority black schools?
the kids arent paying attention and not even trying because its not emphasized at home.


if you believe in white supremacy why would you depend on those same white folks to teach your kids everything?

I know you haven't taken a basic course in stats, so let's stop the "I only care about stats" talk right now.

And, the article YOU posted and claimed to have read (obvious ) suggested that reading should not be done solely in school rather at home as well.

“Literacy is something that gets acquired both in and out of school,” Pallas says. “Parents and families reading to their children and fostering a culture of literacy outside of school can make all the difference.”

Take some geritol and put on your reading glasses, nikka

That’s vague as fukk…. We’re talking about learning how to read…. not building infrastructure or trying to start a start up/hedge fund…

Read the article if you want to know more.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I'm trying to get mine and mine only, if black folks want to keep making up excuses and not walking through the solutions, that's on them.

 

[NobodyReally]

I think it's interesting that we have the most literate and educated American Black population to date, and yet "we're so behind". Black Gen Z has higher rates of college enrollment and higher college graduation rates than Millennials at the same age. And African American Gen Z is on track to surpass previous generations in the number of individuals with bachelor's degrees or higher. The kids today are doing math in middle school that their parents weren't even doing in high school.

Just to make sure, I asked AI and it said:

Over the past few decades, graduation rates for Black students have steadily increased:

1. National Improvement: According to data from the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), the graduation rate for Black students improved significantly.
   • In 2010, the graduation rate for Black students was approximately 66%.
   • By 2020, this rate had risen to over 80%, narrowing the gap with White students.
   • Over the last few decades, the number of Black students enrolling in college has increased significantly.
   • Math scores for Black students have steadily increased at both the 4th and 8th-grade levels:

I feel like every time we meet a standard, the goal posts move. New standards often introduce more complex concepts and require deeper engagement with the material than previous benchmarks. In terms of assessing progress, the methods used to measure understanding also change.

 

[Gloxina]

Get this propagandist bullshyt out of here….

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She ain’t saying Black fathers aren’t needed.

 

[Gloxina]

I'm trying to get mine and mine only, if black folks want to keep making up excuses and not walking through the solutions, that's on them.

That’s a factor as well.

 

[JT-Money]

That’s not financial literacy… That’s common sense and simple math….

Riddle me this, why was significantly easier for all Americans to save money from the 1950s to 1990s as opposed to the 2020s?

Everything has gone up on price due to inflation. Globalization has hollowed out the American middle class. And more people in the country have given into consumerism.

Despite making more money than ever I haven't changed my spending habits in the last 15 years. The people I know who are broke have massive amounts of consumer debt. You have a few outliers here and there because of like medical issues. But people who've worked their whole lives yet are still broke did something wrong. And I started out poorer than most but all it took was one time for me to go deep into debt. I learned my lesson almost immediately and never went back into debt. If you have your health there are no freaking excuses.

 

[Piff Perkins]

This is an absolutely valid concern and was also my concern when I watched one of her interviews last week.


What I gathered is that she wanted to highlight the importance of community in our, well, community and how Black children who don’t have present fathers are essentially brought into the fold and nurtured by the extended family and family friends. On the other hand, when the White nuclear family loses the dad (through death, abandonment, etc), the mother and children are on their own. There is no sense of community or responsibility for those children.

Black children in single parent homes still have a good chance of faring better and making social connections because Black people look out for each other.
-The “uncles and aunties” who aren’t blood, but are family.
-The neighbors who look out for you.
-The uncles and aunts and cousins who are like another set of parents or siblings because of how tight you are.

White people don’t function that way. It’s basically “every man (in this case every family) for himself”. So White kids are essentially isolated from the social benefits of the group because if the dad isn’t in the picture, there is no entree into their society. For the most part, they aren’t gathering at grandma’s house every Sunday, playing with cousins 1-3x a week, getting reprimanded by uncles and aunts as if they are parents, etc.


Black kids from two parent households still face more challenges than White kids from two parent households because of all the reasons we know (operating in a system with racism ingrained in it).

Basically, without a father present, White kids fall more drastically than Black kids because Black society will still lift up and include the children. White society will not.

It’s like how in the past (and still kinda now, but not as bad as before) White society ostracized White women who were divorced. If they weren’t with that man they were out of the group, and that went for the kids, too.
That happens with all groups, but it’s really pronounced with White folks. I think those attitudes contribute to the difference she noted between Black and White families in this study.

Interesting however my only pushback is on the academic view of whiteness as some culture-less blob that only works one way. Go tell Italian Americans they don't understand social connections or Sunday dinners. Or Irish Americans. Or southern white people. I notice a lot of black academics keep doing this when it comes to whiteness and it's rather weird to me.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I know you haven't taken a basic course in stats, so let's stop the "I only care about stats" talk right now.

And, the article YOU posted and claimed to have read (obvious ) suggested that reading should not be done solely in school rather at home as well.



Take some geritol and put on your reading glasses, nikka







Read the article if you want to know more.

Riddle me this…. How have first generation Mexican//South American babies been learning how to read over the last 20 years in these United States, when a strong percentage of their parents can barely speak English?

 

[Neuromancer]

Interesting however my only pushback is on the academic view of whiteness as some culture-less blob that only works one way. Go tell Italian Americans they don't understand social connections or Sunday dinners. Or Irish Americans. Or southern white people. I notice a lot of black academics keep doing this when it comes to whiteness and it's rather weird to me.

Yeah I think seeing white people as a monolith in this instance leaves our important data.

This is an absolutely valid concern and was also my concern when I watched one of her interviews last week.


What I gathered is that she wanted to highlight the importance of community in our, well, community and how Black children who don’t have present fathers are essentially brought into the fold and nurtured by the extended family and family friends. On the other hand, when the White nuclear family loses the dad (through death, abandonment, etc), the mother and children are on their own. There is no sense of community or responsibility for those children.

Black children in single parent homes still have a good chance of faring better and making social connections because Black people look out for each other.
-The “uncles and aunties” who aren’t blood, but are family.
-The neighbors who look out for you.
-The uncles and aunts and cousins who are like another set of parents or siblings because of how tight you are.

White people don’t function that way. It’s basically “every man (in this case every family) for himself”. So White kids are essentially isolated from the social benefits of the group because if the dad isn’t in the picture, there is no entree into their society. For the most part, they aren’t gathering at grandma’s house every Sunday, playing with cousins 1-3x a week, getting reprimanded by uncles and aunts as if they are parents, etc.


Black kids from two parent households still face more challenges than White kids from two parent households because of all the reasons we know (operating in a system with racism ingrained in it).

Basically, without a father present, White kids fall more drastically than Black kids because Black society will still lift up and include the children. White society will not.

It’s like how in the past (and still kinda now, but not as bad as before) White society ostracized White women who were divorced. If they weren’t with that man they were out of the group, and that went for the kids, too.
That happens with all groups, but it’s really pronounced with White folks. I think those attitudes contribute to the difference she noted between Black and White families in this study.

Culturally this makes sense for us. But Non Wasps have different family structures.

 

[Gritsngravy]

its our culture.
we are so far out of the loop on education and the industries to go in its not even funny.

the best thing you can do for your child is get them accustomed to being in different circles of people...
black culture is a funnel to entertainment, tough guy shyt and social service work

Spend time with Asian families and you will see how those kids are pushed and whats expected of them.

I don’t know where you claim to be from but that’s a weak attempt at describing a whole ass culture

If you going to blame culture let’s really talk about what black culture is for real, not you regurgitating shyt you heard other people say

 

[JT-Money]

I'm trying to get mine and mine only, if black folks want to keep making up excuses and not walking through the solutions, that's on them.

Some people would rather learn things the hard way. Even when the answers are in front of their damn face. If you have no pride, self-control or common sense maybe you deserve to penniless.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

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She ain’t saying Black fathers aren’t needed.

Listen…. Read what you just said and ask yourself why is that variable even mentioned and then look at the title of the video…..

There is nothing to study about the 2 parent household in the first place…. There is a millennium of historical data that concludes t that it’s the best initial setup for child rearing…. nikkas in here really think modern black babies can’t learn how the read unless the U.S. government gets involved…. Boy WATTBA…..

 

[OneManGang]

As per usual, im seeing a lot of posts juelzing about what’s going on right in front of us. Are black kids, either in two or one parent households, are the majority of us taking education and making sure our kids can read proficienctly and do math seriously? The answer is a resounding no.

Contrary to what yall think, school is not where your kids go to get good at this. It’s at home. Doing hw with your kids, making them read, making education a priority. I’ve seen firsthand how seriously immigrants and other minorities drill math and reading and extracurricular educational pursuits into their kids. We’re already at a disadvantage with school and resources, so it’s paramount the homes and community make it a priority.

That’s where we’re failing. The parents probably aren’t that great at it either making this a generational curse. Our scores are shocking and relegating us quickly to permanent underclass status with the quality of overall education.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

if you believe in white supremacy why would you depend on those same white folks to teach your kids everything?

The same institutions that are putting barriers in place to handicap our kids future via systemic means is the same institution that they want to provide additional resources that assist our kids in learning how the read, because evidently, they believe our kids can’t the learn the same way as their peer groups….

Can’t make this shyt make sense…..

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Some people would rather learn things the hard way. Even when the answers are in front of their damn face. If you have no pride, self-control or common sense maybe you deserve to penniless.

Nobody in my family went to college, I went to a cheap community college on my own. In the meantime, I started off as a student worker making $7/hr. Went to Walmart making $9/hr. Now I'm at $60k.





Somehow, black folks are always making excuses on why we are held back and I can't comprehend it because I'm not special, didn't have any privileges, advantages, or luck.