The Case Against CM Punk: Why his UFC Dream Deserved To Die

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This is where it loses me. Maybe I'm heartless and cynical at this point, but trying and effort aren't enough. Anything I do in life, I care about performance. Good intentions mean shyt.

If I shyt the bed at anything I take pride in like Punk did, I'd be (rightfully) humiliated. He tried really really hard, that I don't doubt. But he also stunk the joint out.

2 years of people's time, effort, advice, money for THAT. No feel good Rocky, pick yourself up speech is making up for that shyt.


cm punk already excelled where he never was EVER GOING TO MAKE IT.
plus, he was the paul heyman guy.
when heyman was on the hotseat and defied any and all expectations outside of heyman.
plus, pulled admin coup's with nuffin to get what other guys with everything over him from perception, physiology, and even social acceptance and heirarchy.
so, it is no way to diss this man.

punk is an inspiration for anybody of any type and anyone with a negative say.
we need to look into their life and judge it by the criteria and excellence punk has had with nuffin.
to properly put into perspective how great of an asset punk is in comparison to the naysayer.

punk is a gawd, breh.

i could care less if he got beat in a ufc octagon.
he was in an ufc octagon, from nuffin.
he was in and the top draw in wrasslin from nuffin.

so, if you diss'n that,..you must be born well off or you have done sumfin to trump punk.
as real talk,..you can't be critical of punk.
he ain't no former bball div i player like nash, or big show.
he is not a golden boi.
he does not drink.
which for white people already eliminates him from just standard social climbing all together.
he ain't no chick magnet.
yet, he took his viewtiful joe come to life look and bedded all the top desireable divas from the glamazon to aj.
plus, he speaks real shyt.
that for white people is an exact issue and real talk...a guy like that normally would have been done.
so, for dude to do what he has....nikkaz need to straight just stop hating and try to study his background.
plus, try to apply what he was doing to aspects of their life.

punk made it,,...
when, he AIN'T SUPPOSED TO EVER fukk'N MAKE IT.


that shyt is like unprecedented.

you can do nuffin but salute punk.
you would need to be from some affluent family where it was all set up to hate on punk.
which would mean you a sawft ass boi!

tryin to criticize a real man, in punk.




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  • Punks got Money
  • Punks got AJ
  • Be Happy for Punk
For two years, TWO, he got to train in MMA. Then his fukking ass his lit. Dude has friends yeah, but his life is about to enter a living hell with his lawsuit. His body is broken for wrestling. All that negative Karma bout to crash down on him like a wave, so his entrance was basically the start of the end.


what negative karma.....?

have you ever been in an admin based coup?
if not,....i don't think you can shyt on punk?


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I follow the dude who wrote this. He kinda been having an axe to grind with Punk last couple of years since the UFC annoucement on some Woj/Bron shyt tbh


Look, of course people should do the smaller divisions/amateur MMA promotions first but its like Dana came to him with the offer and he bucket list the shyt. Like Im kinda surprised everyone has forgotten that including Dana himself tbh

Whoever wrote that article clearly has an agenda:francis:

Nikkas got hate in they heart for Punk. The notion that he went in there arrogantly without thinking he might get his ass kicked, is asinine. Especially if you payed attention to the build up to the fight
The title of the article should tell you this shyt was on some woj article about LeBron levels of personal vendetta. I saw the headline of it and didn't even bother reading it because I've seen woj write the column about LeBron at least 4-5 times.
 

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I remember they clowned the fukk outta Punk when he showed up as srs mma fighter Phil Brooks
 

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cm punk already excelled where he never was EVER GOING TO MAKE IT.
plus, he was the paul heyman guy.
when heyman was on the hotseat and defied any and all expectations outside of heyman.
plus, pulled admin coup's with nuffin to get what other guys with everything over him from perception, physiology, and even social acceptance and heirarchy.
so, it is no way to diss this man.

punk is an inspiration for anybody of any type and anyone with a negative say.
we need to look into their life and judge it by the criteria and excellence punk has had with nuffin.
to properly put into perspective how great of an asset punk is in comparison to the naysayer.

punk is a gawd, breh.

i could care less if he got beat in a ufc octagon.
he was in an ufc octagon, from nuffin.
he was in and the top draw in wrasslin from nuffin.

so, if you diss'n that,..you must be born well off or you have done sumfin to trump punk.
as real talk,..you can't be critical of punk.
he ain't no former bball div i player like nash, or big show.
he is not a golden boi.
he does not drink.
which for white people already eliminates him from just standard social climbing all together.
he ain't no chick magnet.
yet, he took his viewtiful joe come to life look and bedded all the top desireable divas from the glamazon to aj.
plus, he speaks real shyt.
that for white people is an exact issue and real talk...a guy like that normally would have been done.
so, for dude to do what he has....nikkaz need to straight just stop hating and try to study his background.
plus, try to apply what he was doing to aspects of their life.

punk made it,,...
when, he AIN'T SUPPOSED TO EVER fukk'N MAKE IT.


that shyt is like unprecedented.

you can do nuffin but salute punk.
you would need to be from some affluent family where it was all set up to hate on punk.
which would mean you a sawft ass boi!

tryin to criticize a real man, in punk.




art barr
I usually fukk with your posts, but I cant cosign this shyt. The very facr that this guy could waltz into the ufc off his name alone with no fights under his belt whatsoever and land a million to lose is a fukking joke and disrespectful to all the fighters who had to work their way from the bottom in amateur circuits all the way to the ufc. Hell, there are many fighters who have worked their asses off and still couldnt make the cut. These people have sacrificed time and time again through harsh ass training camps, damn near killed themselves to make weight time and time again, and this fakkit does it once and thinks he deserves the same accolades, fanfare and props that vets in the fight game have, maybe even more? Man fukk him! As dude mentioned earlier, pro sports are a meritocracy, and dude hasnt even paid his dues at all. Coming in talking about title shots like he would even be in such a conversation having no fights? Thats beyond arrogant.
 

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I usually fukk with your posts, but I cant cosign this shyt. The very facr that this guy could waltz into the ufc off his name alone with no fights under his belt whatsoever and land a million to lose is a fukking joke and disrespectful to all the fighters who had to work their way from the bottom in amateur circuits all the way to the ufc. Hell, there are many fighters who have worked their asses off and still couldnt make the cut. These people have sacrificed time and time again through harsh ass training camps, damn near killed themselves to make weight time and time again, and this fakkit does it once and thinks he deserves the same accolades, fanfare and props that vets in the fight game have, maybe even more? Man fukk him! As dude mentioned earlier, pro sports are a meritocracy, and dude hasnt even paid his dues at all. Coming in talking about title shots like he would even be in such a conversation having no fights? Thats beyond arrogant.




Dana white offered him the spot.
After he was going to go the long way.
His draw he created from nuffin created that, from nuffin.
Again,....
You really can't hate on punk.
unless you are this overwhelming success at your job and your personal interest.
Which still pales in comparison to what punk did.
He created his draw, and his draw created that opportunity.
The people with negative criticism.
Don't typically have a draw as large and from nuffin like him either.
Nor have they defied every brazen defiant stone cold NO, either.
Like a white person can't criticize the boi at all,.....



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Lotta salt in that article.
Rightfully so...CM Punk is a fool who made a fool out of the wrestling industry with his whining mantra as a kick off point. This whole charade ended in two minutes after all the marketing and hype? He made Gall look like prime Royce Gracie..hilarious.
 

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cm punk already excelled where he never was EVER GOING TO MAKE IT.
plus, he was the paul heyman guy.
when heyman was on the hotseat and defied any and all expectations outside of heyman.
plus, pulled admin coup's with nuffin to get what other guys with everything over him from perception, physiology, and even social acceptance and heirarchy.
so, it is no way to diss this man.

punk is an inspiration for anybody of any type and anyone with a negative say.
we need to look into their life and judge it by the criteria and excellence punk has had with nuffin.
to properly put into perspective how great of an asset punk is in comparison to the naysayer.

punk is a gawd, breh.

i could care less if he got beat in a ufc octagon.
he was in an ufc octagon, from nuffin.
he was in and the top draw in wrasslin from nuffin.

so, if you diss'n that,..you must be born well off or you have done sumfin to trump punk.
as real talk,..you can't be critical of punk.
he ain't no former bball div i player like nash, or big show.
he is not a golden boi.
he does not drink.
which for white people already eliminates him from just standard social climbing all together.
he ain't no chick magnet.
yet, he took his viewtiful joe come to life look and bedded all the top desireable divas from the glamazon to aj.
plus, he speaks real shyt.
that for white people is an exact issue and real talk...a guy like that normally would have been done.
so, for dude to do what he has....nikkaz need to straight just stop hating and try to study his background.
plus, try to apply what he was doing to aspects of their life.

punk made it,,...
when, he AIN'T SUPPOSED TO EVER fukk'N MAKE IT.


that shyt is like unprecedented.

you can do nuffin but salute punk.
you would need to be from some affluent family where it was all set up to hate on punk.
which would mean you a sawft ass boi!

tryin to criticize a real man, in punk.




art barr

Some of that shyt you wrote is true but you're side stepping the point. We're only talking about Punk deserving to be in the UFC. How cool of a guy he is and what he accomplished outside of fighting is irrelevant.

He got gifted a fight on name alone. I can't waltz into the the PGA/NBA/NHL just because I'm an inspirational guy.

"so, if you diss'n that,..you must be born well off or you have done sumfin to trump punk." this is particularly horseshyt. See, if it's me, I want to be there because I earned it. So that other big players in whatever organization I'm working into, they can't deny that I belong.

He didn't care that he was gifted, that people that it was bullshyt. Whatever, that's on him. Standards are still standards though, and we have every right to hold him to them just like anybody else. Don't give a shyt who you are, back of the line motherfukker. Earn your way in. He would've *never* made it through regional tournaments. Success in one endeavor does not and should not lead to automatic line jumping in another. Prove yourself.
 

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You guys keep bringing up NBA and NFL, but what you're not getting is that the UFC leans more towards sports entertainment, than an actual sport. The owners have treated it as such for the past two years. This is why Conor keeps getting special treatment, getting a lw title shot even tho he hasnt beaten a top ten LW, etc...I'm not condoning it, but it is what it is.

They paid James toney a shytload of money. More so than the fighters he shared the card wit. He walked right in and co-mained. Why? Because he brought so much attention to the card. More so than any fighter they had at the time. I understand the backlash for it, but this ain't nothing new with mma. Punk did it for the hell of it, not the bread.
 

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You guys keep bringing up NBA and NFL, but what you're not getting is that the UFC leans more towards sports entertainment, than an actual sport. The owners have treated it as such for the past two years. This is why Conor keeps getting special treatment, getting a lw title shot even tho he hasnt beaten a top ten LW, etc...I'm not condoning it, but it is what it is.

They paid James toney a shytload of money. More so than the fighters he shared the card wit. He walked right in and co-mained. Why? Because he brought so much attention to the card. More so than any fighter they had at the time. I understand the backlash for it, but this ain't nothing new with mma. Punk did it for the hell of it, not the bread.

Exactly, with shyt like this, that's the only perception we can have. Something tells me if you ask Dana, that's not how he sees it or wants it be seen.
 

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Exactly, with shyt like this, that's the only perception we can have. Something tells me if you ask Dana, that's not how he sees it or wants it be seen.

He gave Bellator so much shyt for freak show matches like Shamrock/Hoyce in their 50s, or Dada vs Kimbo, yet puts a dude with zero experience and obviously no clue how to throw a punch, defend, or wrestle out on his PPV with no shame. Even made a reality show about it. Then threw Punk under the bushes after the PPV. Vince wishes he could be so carny.
 
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