The Caucasian Invasion of Hip Hop is disgusting and needs to be addressed

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Aside from the issue that a white rapper like Macklemore will automatically crossover and reach a wider audience, the other problem is that a wack cac rapper will get an industry push and funding i.e dat Iggy Azzlea bish
only reason we ever heard about her is cuz of her skin colour, her mic skills don't warrant the amount of promotion she's received and this i think was part of scarface's point

word, meanwhile there's younguns in the hood that are nice as fukk but nobody will give them the time of day in a culture that in all actuality belongs to them. Oh, but "mac miller" is doing his thing, right? :pacspit: it's fukking sickening.
 

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I avoid macklemore at all costs, and being that my experience with hip hop is not through viacom, I've been relatively successful at not listening to his music.

With that being said, I asked this before and nobody really gave me much of an answer, but who's blacklemoore?

:lupe:

Look at his contemporaries, i don't really keep up with charts or radio or MTV so maybe i would be off by saying kendrick lamar?...do they make similar music? What black artist is doing anti-materialism, LBGT community friendly rap? I don't know enough about dude to know if his subject matter is really that centered around those two subjects so correct me if he's not "that" guy.

The only black artist i can think even remotely similar is lil b, he's "positive", silly enough to put on goofy shyt and be flamboyant and has a following in that same hipster/hypebeast lane. The problem is there is a clear gap in skill level between him and macklemore.

What black artist could we swap him out with that could tap into that niche market?

Unless there is someone you can think of that we could plug in there besides lil b, i really don't see how his success in particular is such a huge slap in the face.

At best, he's the next "eminem", IE. the only white mainstream rapper with any pull due to him filling that void, at worst he's vanilla ice and will in 2-3 years after he stops being able to re-up on this forumula.

Yall can chill with all this Y2K, threat level midnight bullshyt. Talmbout 20 years from now when white folks will probably be the minority by then.

What you nikkas should be doing is thanking god that mexicans suck at rap. :whew: :laugh:

Lol @ that. I guess we should be thankful that we don't have a credible Spanish speaking rapper after Pun. Problem is that these hard headed posters and their audiences love a non-rapping ass nikka like French or Keef over credible artists like K Dot and Cole. Hip Hop is much harder to white wash than other black music in the past. We still have over 95% black faces on the screen in rap nearly 40 years after its birth.
 

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Back in the early to mid 90's whiteboys who were listening to rap were a fukking RARITY, so where did all these dudes pop up from all of a sudden? that's what I wanna know.

you're trippin. these kids grew up listening to Snoop Dogg and shyt. in what world was anyone immune to the influence of hip-hop music in the 90's?. hip-hop was the best selling genre in the 90's. who do you think was buying?
 

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I'm sure it is but I don't make a red cent off of the music so its not that important to me. Cats up in here like they are A&R or have significant stock in these companies. :mjplz:

ur right, it won't affect my money either if rap turns all white but that doesn't mean we can't point out injustices and inequality
 

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YES. Rock n Roll. Go back before that and research. There is widespread information out there available. It really was a deep issue. Soul music, blues, jazz. Look where it originated. Similar thing. Black artists playing certain kinds of music and not allowed in the door.

In the 60's? Sheeit, look how many album covers got whitewashed, just so the public wouldn't be scared to buy it. There's deep racial issues in this county that never been confronted, just brushed over. That's why they stay problems and HISTORY REPEATS itself.

Ya it was an issue in the fifties. No one gives a shyt about fifties rock though is what Im saying. sixties on it was purely driven by white artists. So dont say "white people stole rock", when the entire evolution of genre is driven by white artists.

You act like genres are a tangible good... like its a predetermined thing and Rock would have turned evolved how it did regardless of who made the music. Artists build off of other artists, you can't own that.

Clearly you aren't a fan of rock music. This is why posts like this just set me off. If you were you wouldn't make statements like this

Im sure Rock music has ZERO value to you, just a way for you to whine about white people :heh:


Nothing like that happened in Soul or Blues, aside from the occasional blue eyed soul group. Happened in jazz in the forties, but then it flipped again, and most of whats considered the best jazz came after the fifties.


White people stealing music from blacks is an issue, but its a little overblown.
 

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I don't care what color a rapper is, but I hate how all these wack cornballs get this extra push, just

because they're cacs. Other deserving rappers like Sean P. Marciano, Fashawn, Blu, and others don't get this same push and their a million times better than these cornball cacs :pacspit:
 

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you're trippin. these kids grew up listening to Snoop Dogg and shyt. in what world was anyone immune to the influence of hip-hop music in the 90's?. hip-hop was the best selling genre in the 90's. who do you think was buying?

Yeah but they only listened to that because that kind of shyt is what was being promoted on TV and on the Radio they had no choice but to listen to it. If you asked a white "hip-hop fan" back then if he knew who KAM was, do you think he'd know who you were talking about?

I'm not talking about "sales" here, I'm talking about a genuine love and identification with the artform. How many white people back then listened to rap EXCLUSIVELY? Just because some white kid back then had a doggystyle CD mixed in with whatever else he was listening to at the time doesn't make him a part of the culture.
 

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I'm a nikka from the streets, of course I don't fit in here.

:bryan: I heard all that talk when I was growing up. Stop being a fukking stereotype and be yourself. Black folks must strive to do better. As well as Hip Hop. Stop letting the likes of Chief Keef or Beans representing the hood and let the likes of Lu or even Rhymefest start repping black folks properly.
 
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It's a double-edged sword. Without white people, Hip Hop would not even be mainstream on any level. You have to remember that whites make up the vast majority of American society. I bet you that every single last one of the people posting here has a favorite rapper that is signed to a major record label owned by a pasty rich old white Jew. :comeon:

Who is your favorite rapper? Jay? Nas? Pac? Without old rich white men and little whiteboys in Iowa, their music would not be applauded as classic by the mainstream media or ever go Platinum. Their music would not even be heard nationwide if it weren't for white owned major record labels. :deadrose:

Reasonable Doubt originally only got four mics in the Source in 96'. It wasn't until he started pandering to them crackas with the Annie sample on "Hard Knock Life" did white America start paying attention. Thats when he blew up. Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol. I were both classics, yet nobody was checking for Hov back then. Hard Knock Life was weaker than both them albums, yet Hard Knock Life is when his career really took off because he caught the ears of white America by sampling something that was familiar to them. :russ: Illmatic didn't go Platinum until 2001. Hella people, white and black, didn't even hear Illmatic for the first time until he started the beef with Jay on the "Takeover" after the damn Twin Towers dropped. When your only fanbase is the hood, you will not be a household name. :ufdup:

I know this better than anyone. I'm from the Bay. San Francisco to be exact. Most of our best rappers and classic albums are unknown outside of Northern California. Why is that? Our rappers never signed major record label contracts with wrinkly old white Jews like Jerry Heller. Our music was never marketed to whiteboys in Kansas. Because of that, the only place our music went Platinum was in the ghetto. Can't say I ain't proud though. :obama:

I hate to say it, but we have white people to thank for Hip Hop being a global phenomena, period.
 

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It's a joke at this point. Not saying a white rapper can't be nice, I'm just really not interested in what they have to say :manny:

Dude didn't even really critique the artists, he just rattled off a list of white rappers he saw on TV and talked about how upset he was about it, and of course his obsession with gay sex had to creep in there as a sidebar.

Back in the early to mid 90's whiteboys who were listening to rap were a fukking RARITY

:aicmon:

So where did all these dudes pop up from all of a sudden? that's what I wanna know.

If this type of "where did they come from all of sudden" shyt was only being said in white rapper threads, it would be less laughable, but people say this about everybody they don't particularly like, or aren't interested in.

"He's a plant" :skip:

"Where these odd future nikkas come from, it's a conspiracy!"

nikkas acting like you gotta go to dimension x to find wifi and a microphone.
 
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Let me add this dude to the debate. About 210K Twitter Followers and a 40K download on his mixtape.

 
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