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Al Jefferson breh
He done it before. Is he better than Noah?
yes al jef is better than fukkin noah.. noah is just a fukking hustleman.. a good hustleman tho.
The center position is not dead!
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yes al jef is better than fukkin noah.. noah is just a fukking hustleman.. a good hustleman tho.
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Chris Mihm would be averaging at least 15 and 13 with 7 blocks per game today
The elite centers will do more because they can. There are very few good passing centers in the NBA. In fact, there are only a few good passing PF's in the NBA.
David Lee
Horford
Smoove
KG
Duncan
Griffin
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I might be forgetting a couple and at true center, just Marc Gasol and Noah
In the 90's you had Hakeem, Ewing, young Shaq, Malone, Zo, etc. The best passing bigs was the early 2000's. They had a lot of passing bigs and forwards. The whole PF's like Sheed, Webber, KG, Duncan, Divac, Shaq, etc.
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You using stats like Al Jefferson ain't putting up better numbers than most PF's in today's game. It ain't all about points when you watch the games and see their skill-set.
Dwight Howard was a better player to me a year ago than Robinson. He is not the same player clearly. You can have scoring. Give me elite athletic ability, elite defensive BBIQ, and anchor skills as well as decent offensive skills and I'm gucci. Clearly Dwight isn't that anymore after the back injury. I would also take Bill Russell over Nate Thurmond. Do you have a problem with that? I would take Russell over Elvin Hayes, do you have a problem with that?
You keep trying to dismerit me but the point remains the same for the question at that time. Clearly Dwight this year is a shell of himself in Orlando.
Al Jefferson is putting up numbers in a league devoid of 1 single solitary great center, Willis played at a time when the frontcourt was loaded.
I bring up you picking Dwight over David because it shows that for big men your judgement of them isn't the best. Back injury or not, anyone who saw Robinson and then saw Dwight would laugh at the idea of Dwight being better.
Who exactly is Al Jefferson posting his numbers againstAl Jefferson breh
@Malta, going by PER, VC>Larry Bird. You gonna tell me VC is better than Bird? You gonna tell me VC is better than Reggie Miller? Stats are pointless if you don't know what you are talking about.
Career PER Larry Bird is 18th, Carter is 58th.....
We making things up now breh?
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Jennings would average 32ppg in 92
Al Jefferson is putting up numbers in a league devoid of 1 single solitary great center, Willis played at a time when the frontcourt was loaded.
I bring up you picking Dwight over David because it shows that for big men your judgement of them isn't the best. Back injury or not, anyone who saw Robinson and then saw Dwight would laugh at the idea of Dwight being better.
Who exactly is Al Jefferson posting his numbers against
Career PER Larry Bird is 18th, Carter is 58th.....
Jefferson has great low post skills, he would do more work in the 90's without all of the offensive post rules of today.
I misread an article of Bird's PER.
We get it. You like the 90's role players a lot more than I liked them. You don't like Noah. I do. You don't like Brandon Jennings? I do. We agree to disagree.
Jefferson has great low post skills, he would do more work in the 90's without all of the offensive post rules of today. Willis used to get point of putbacks and elongated post moves that wouldn't be possible in this era due to changed NBA low post rules.
Dwight was better till this year to me than D-Rob in terms of career progression. Dwight was never what David was on offense. David was an elite offensive big. At center, I value Dwight more. To me, he was the closest player to Bill Russell I've ever seen. Of course I didn't see Russell live but from everything I seen. Dwight was that. I seen Dwight take Orlando much further than they could go. I love D-Rob. Great player, HOF, one of the best bigs ever but Dwight was better to me.
Its the overall picture. Even the 2nd tier & lower tier centers are much better than todays.
We all know the better the competition is, the better you get. These 2nd tier guys had to go against Robinson, Olajuwon, etc
I like how the rule changes don't make some difference. Even with that said, there isn't that top tier center in the NBA right now especially with the ones who were close or there being hurt or
Noah's game is sooooo ugly. Now there's one who plays like Dale Davis. A lot of these "5s" would be playing their true position of 4 in the 90s....getting their Elden Campbell on and half of them aren't seeing quality mins.
People remember Vlade mostly for flopping, but Vlade was a match-up nightmare in the post. He was old-school crafty, right-left hand jump hook, could pass with the best of them and step out for the 12'. He was also a solid on the ball defender until he started strictly flopping. He'd give Dwight fits, Bynum too, but I think Bynum would also be able to come back.
Of course no one is talking about the Joe Wolf, Ervin Johnson, Todd MacCollough, Matt Geiger, Chris Dudley, Ostertag, Longley, Ike Austin, Adonal Foyle, Mark Bryant...but players like Vlade, Brad Miller, Hot Rod, Willis, Duckworth, Brad Daugherty, Seikaly...sure. They all put up better numbers than most of today's Cs
People remember Vlade mostly for flopping, but Vlade was a match-up nightmare in the post. He was old-school crafty, right-left hand jump hook, could pass with the best of them and step out for the 12'. He was also a solid on the ball defender until he started strictly flopping. He'd give Dwight fits, Bynum too, but I think Bynum would also be able to come back.
Of course no one is talking about the Joe Wolf, Ervin Johnson, Todd MacCollough, Matt Geiger, Chris Dudley, Ostertag, Longley, Ike Austin, Adonal Foyle, Mark Bryant...but players like Vlade, Brad Miller, Hot Rod, Willis, Duckworth, Brad Daugherty, Seikaly...sure. They all put up better numbers than most of today's Cs
