The Cleveland Cavs have traded Andrew Bynum for Luol Deng

[NatiboyB]

Dude was shytting on Joel Embiid, then brought up Jahlil Okafor

I haven't seem okeafor play but I'm really liking emblid but I'll be 100 I'm not impressed by wiggins emblid, or seldon if there 1st rd picks shouldn't they be higher then number 18? Because there are at least 3 other nba talents on the team also.

 

[7oclock]

Dude was shytting on Joel Embiid, then brought up Jahlil Okafor

I don't remember this conversation where I shytted on Embiid...but Okafor is the best technically sound big man in HS.

 

[7oclock]

The cavs are the team I think he stays with at 11-12 per if he hits free agency he won't get that from any other team.

have to disagree but many teams would have given him more but no one was reaching for a trade and hoping to sign Deng extension, but if he hit the FA market you will see teams step up.

 

[NatiboyB]

have to disagree but many teams would have given him more but no one was reaching for a trade and hoping to sign Deng extension, but if he hit the FA market you will see teams step up.

But aren't that many teams with money to offer especially 13-15 million per...I really think he'll remain a Cav. The suns are another team

 

[7oclock]

As soon as your clear Duke bias is brought up you get all aggie, it's not bullshyt to bring it up because at the end of the day that's pretty much all you do on here, defend Duke players. If someone said Boozer was trash, you'd probably defend him too



So we don't know about basketball, yet you're talking about Batum's ppg? Do you even watch dude play, considering your track record with that question I'll assume the answer is no, but of course you'll say you watch all Blazer games. The point is you had Batum among a bunch of dudes that don't deserve their contract, and your reasoning seems to be because he averages 13ppg, which just tells me you don't watch him play and don't even understand his value to a team like Portland. Like I said, he deserves every bit of his contract, and he'd probably be a better fit for the Cavs moving forward than Deng, but Bynum's contract and a couple of 2nd rounders won't net you a 25 year old point forward

prove anything you said...show me a thread where I took up for any other Dukie outside of Deng. Quote me one time. This is the bullshyt you morons lke to do on this board, there's no individual thinkers, jsut a bunch of sheep dapping and repping each other and most of yall don't know shyt. Most of you are after thoughts, rejects, and has beens on other sports sites, so you come here to spout bullshyt and then when someone differs in your opinion you find anything you can grasp to paint an unrealistic picture of them or deflect the argument to some irrelevant shyt. That's why I sit back and troll most of you and you're thinking I'm getting aggie, most of you posters are a joke for the most part, When you start spouting idiot shyt that obviously makes no sense, then why would I even post real shyt on here? It's pointless.

So we don't know about basketball, yet you're talking about Batum's ppg? Do you even watch dude play, considering your track record with that question I'll assume the answer is no, but of course you'll say you watch all Blazer games. The point is you had Batum among a bunch of dudes that don't deserve their contract, and your reasoning seems to be because he averages 13ppg, which just tells me you don't watch him play and don't even understand his value to a team like Portland. Like I said, he deserves every bit of his contract, and he'd probably be a better fit for the Cavs moving forward than Deng, but Bynum's contract and a couple of 2nd rounders won't net you a 25 year old point forward

again like i said, posting irrelevent shyt to deflect the argument. Do I watch Batum play? Do you? I guess you watch everyone's games, because you've argued with me about Deng, Drummond, Batum, and few other players. The way you argue and you always bring up the "do you watch the guy play" as if you do. You're a hyprocrite, I bet I've seen more BAtum then you... there's no way he's better than deng right now. You can sa all the BS you want 19 and 7 > 13 and 5...don't care if he can or should put up more, he doesn't.

You don't know basketball again and it shows. Portland was looking to trade Batum a little over a year ago and if I'm correct his market value was 11M which is the deal he signed. Deng value was higher but because he's an expiring contract the value of his contract was lowered. If Deng was in a sign and trade he would have netted much more - to the point that the same team you're trying to get all haughty about wanted Deng (SF) and guess who he would have started over - oh yeah the guy you're saying is better than him.

 

[7oclock]

But aren't that many teams with money to offer especially 13-15 million per...I really think he'll remain a Cav. The suns are another team

teams can really structure deals in a variety of ways, i think he stays with Cavs as well...i could also see the Bulls give him another looks if the Cavs don't sign him to an extension and they miss on Mirotic and/or any don't make any other salary dumps to go after Melo (which is what they need to do to free up additional money). Problem is Cavs now have his bird rights. Also if the Bulls go after Melo - they are going to have a skeleton teams with Melo/Rose eating up much of the space and Noah/Mirotic/Taj eating up a bunch of other space.

 

[NatiboyB]

teams can really structure deals in a variety of ways, i think he stays with Cavs as well...i could also see the Bulls give him another looks if the Cavs don't sign him to an extension and they miss on Mirotic and/or any don't make any other salary dumps to go after Melo (which is what they need to do to free up additional money). Problem is Cavs now have his bird rights. Also if the Bulls go after Melo - they are going to have a skeleton teams with Melo/Rose eating up much of the space and Noah/Mirotic/Taj eating up a bunch of other space.

They'll still have the mle which they can split with 2 players and the veterans exemption and I think they have a trade exemption also to go along with the draft picks.

 

[7oclock]

They'll still have the mle which they can split with 2 players and the veterans exemption and I think they have a trade exemption also to go along with the draft picks.

if i'm wrong on any of this feel free to correct because i'm going off top

MLE - i believe we only have $5M and that is being designated for Mirotic , which he prob won't sign for
veterans exception - i think you're talking about Birds rights, which is only for your own free agents - we don't have this exemption anymore (that would have been for Deng).
trade exemption - the trade exemption is about $2M and can only be used in future trades

we are barely under the cap and technically will need a 13th players (which they supposedly are looking at a bunch of 10 -day contract players to round the season out).

 

[NatiboyB]

if i'm wrong on any of this feel free to correct because i'm going off top

MLE - i believe we only have $5M and that is being designated for Mirotic , which he prob won't sign for
veterans exception - i think you're talking about Birds rights, which is only for your own free agents - we don't have this exemption anymore (that would have been for Deng).
trade exemption - the trade exemption is about $2M and can only be used in future trades

we are barely under the cap and technically will need a 13th players (which they supposedly are looking at a bunch of 10 -day contract players to round the season out).

No you have multiple exceptions it's a veterans exception that I believe is about 2.5 mill, the mle is around 5m, and you have a low level exception around a mill....with the first rd pick and 2nd rd pick the bulls could feel there roster around a core of

Noah/mle
Taj/mirtoc?/veteran
Melo/rookie
Jimmy/mle
Rose/hinrich/teague

 

[jwinfield]

No you have multiple exceptions it's a veterans exception that I believe is about 2.5 mill, the mle is around 5m, and you have a low level exception around a mill....with the first rd pick and 2nd rd pick the bulls could feel there roster around a core of

Noah/mle
Taj/mirtoc?/veteran
Melo/rookie
Jimmy/mle
Rose/hinrich/teague

If Charlotte's pick is outside the top 10 we get that too.

They were #11 a little while ago, up to 17, they need to start losing a little

 

[NatiboyB]

If Charlotte's pick is outside the top 10 we get that too.

They were #11 a little while ago, up to 17, they need to start losing a little

So honestly things are looking good to me...I don't think y'all will get luol but a dude like evan turner, granger, gay, heyward, will come into play or Stephenson, stucky, and a few other....I think they can get 2 of a pair of decent/good players.

 

[god shamgod]

a solid offer?

You Bulls fans are fools seriously.

So a 2X allstar avg 19 and 7 should take a contract that puts him below

Richard Jefferson
Ben Gordon
Danny Granger
Hedo Trukoglu
Andre Bargnani
Tyreke Evans
Nicolas Batum
DAnilo Gallinari
Gerald Wallace

yeah, i'd say that would be difficult to explain to your mom why you're getting paid less than these guys.

Miss me wit that 2x all star bullshyt.Deng is an injury prone 3rd option.Bulls can't pay deng 13-14 a year and expect to compete for titles especially with roses contract fukkin up the whole cap.He wants to get paid cool some other team can give him 55 mil to put up 17 and 6 and shoot 22 foot 2 pointers and fold in big games.

 

[Malta]

prove anything you said...show me a thread where I took up for any other Dukie outside of Deng. Quote me one time. This is the bullshyt you morons lke to do on this board, there's no individual thinkers, jsut a bunch of sheep dapping and repping each other and most of yall don't know shyt. Most of you are after thoughts, rejects, and has beens on other sports sites, so you come here to spout bullshyt and then when someone differs in your opinion you find anything you can grasp to paint an unrealistic picture of them or deflect the argument to some irrelevant shyt. That's why I sit back and troll most of you and you're thinking I'm getting aggie, most of you posters are a joke for the most part, When you start spouting idiot shyt that obviously makes no sense, then why would I even post real shyt on here? It's pointless.

So, we're all just seeing things when it comes to you and your for Duke players. There's so much salt and sass in this paragraph, wouldn't surprise me if there was some eye rolling, teeth sucking and a bit of neck roll when you hit that Post Reply. You can say you're all you want, when a Duke players honor is in question shyt gets real for you.

again like i said, posting irrelevent shyt to deflect the argument. Do I watch Batum play? Do you? I guess you watch everyone's games, because you've argued with me about Deng, Drummond, Batum, and few other players. The way you argue and you always bring up the "do you watch the guy play" as if you do. You're a hyprocrite, I bet I've seen more BAtum then you... there's no way he's better than deng right now. You can sa all the BS you want 19 and 7 > 13 and 5...don't care if he can or should put up more, he doesn't.

I asked you if you watched Batum played, and you didn't answer that says enough. I only argue about players I watch, unlike you. I don't go into an argument with just stats, and speak as though I know about the subject, only to be looking at Youtube clips and forming my opinion that way while continuing to argue like I'm some expert on the player in question, that is what you do. I ask you if you watch players because I'm certain you don't, and you have proved it over and over again. It's actually 13/7/5 you know, excellent Point forward numbers from a young player.

You don't know basketball again and it shows. Portland was looking to trade Batum a little over a year ago and if I'm correct his market value was 11M which is the deal he signed. Deng value was higher but because he's an expiring contract the value of his contract was lowered. If Deng was in a sign and trade he would have netted much more - to the point that the same team you're trying to get all haughty about wanted Deng (SF) and guess who he would have started over - oh yeah the guy you're saying is better than him.

No, the Blazers weren't looking to trade him, this just proves you were just furiously googling everything you can about Batum too The Wolves were offering two first rounders for him prior to giving him a contract offer, Olshey had no intentions of trading him and matched the offer sheet and threw all the trade proposals from the Wolves in the bushes. You talking about "potential" trades of Batum when Deng just got moved for an expiring and some 2nd rounders, look at all the hypotheticals you coming up with. I don't want to hear about your what ifs, his value was what he was traded for. And I'd MUCH rather have Batum than Deng, especially since one is 25 and the other is about to turn 29 and has proven to be injury prone.

 

[Brozay]

Lets just put it this way

If Batum was in a contract year with the Bulls right now, they wouldnt have traded him midseason to essentially save $$ and get nothing back in regards to assets

I think its pretty clear he has more value around the league than Deng

 

[mastermind]

The Blazers WERE NEVER looking to trade Batum.

this @7oclock dude