The Clipse grew up middle class, no struggle but gravitated to the drug game ... is this common?

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Hold this L if you actually thought Virginia Beach was turfed out like it was Deep East Oakland. :mjlol: And yes, this was the image Push and his brother were pushing back in 2002. Look at the "Grindin" video, they posted like they really deep in the trenches somewhere.

I'm in my 30's and I was a super senior in high school when Clipse first dropped. The early 2000's was what I call the Thugsploitation era of Rap music. Back then, everyone into Hip Hop was a wannabe thug regardless if you lived in the 'burbs or deep in the ghetto. Jay Z bragging about selling dope for years made that shyt the status quo. Rap in the early to mid 90's went from documenting the real ugliness, ups and downs of the dope game in the hood to portraying and idealized vision of glamorized commodified street life and ultimately the gold standard for black folk in Amerikkka thanks to the minstrel show of BET. The whole inspiration for Riley from Boondocks outlines this mindstate. Positive Hip Hop and being yourself that was popular in the early 90's was played out. Everyone was wearing 6XL Galaxy tees and throwback jerseys back then trying to be super thug. Kanye hadn't made it cool to be a regular square nig yet. Had the Clipse been a lil bit younger, their sound might have reflected more of a Kanye influence. Afterall, rappers in the 80's were often the opposite of studio gangsters but ironically rapped about not doing drugs and not committing crimes but ended up in prison for being about that life (i.e. Slick Rick). :snoop:

And yes, I've lived in both the hood and the burbs and my homies from the burbs was more excited to hop in the dope game than lil nikkas from the hood who started slanging at age 9 because their moms was on dope and their pops was dead, locked up, strung out or not in the picture. Yes, some kids in the hood are practically forced to hustle before their balls even drop.
But suburbia nikkas are influenced more by rap music than their environment. What do you think the concept of Thug Motivation is really about? It's a seminar to become a drug dealer written by folks who did miminal hustling in thee dope game at the most. My one homie from high school from the burbs hopped in the weed game at 18, graduated to selling coke through his big bro connections and been in and out of prison ever since. :why: Won't lie, making fast money slanging seemed like the way to go when I was hella broke working part time in college. But I was raised in the trenches as a youth and never even sold a nickel bag. Where I grew up in Cali, you can't even come outside unless you bout that life, kill or be killed, so I never tried to be with the shyt. But money in the drug game don't last long wherever you at. The money, cars, clothes and hoes go as fast as they come. But lifelong problems like hardcore drug addiction, a long rap sheet, lack of education and work ethic, guilt for putting so much evil in the world through your willful actions and addiction to the thrill of the lifestyle will haunt you forever if you let it. Hella old man bums you see in the city begging in front of liquor stores and stoplights used to be high rollers and wheelers and dealers but never learned how to grow up and adapt to life. :ld:

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The reason why some of these homes have nice amenities/pools is because they were at one time middle class white neighborhoods, but because they were affordable, middle class blacks moved in, driving the property values down. Eventually the s**t turns into a blend of suburb and hood. I live in Charlotte now, and I see it happening as we speak. My subdivision was lily white 10 years ago, and now is majority black. It's cool now, but the real estate market turns on neighborhoods like this and then they start to attract lower middle class people.

Facts ... that’s one way ... the other way is that developers have been constructing “black burbs” ... they low key (or high key) promote and market those houses to lower middle and working class blacks ... usually on the fringes of the city and built where there’s already a decent concentration of minorities ... small lot sizes, about 12 feet between you and your neighbor, sits on maybe .15 acre, street names are ethnic (Wakanda Ln.), and often packed the fukk out in terms of neighborhood density and residential members (5 or 6 people in one household paying a portion of the mortgage) ... black burbs have become a breeding ground for “hidden fukkery”... the density low key makes it like projects.

Blacks burbs are attractive (and needed) because it allows for minorities to become first-time home owners ... buuuuut... that element is there and can quickly breed ... especially when the initial, first run of homeowners in the development leave those starter homes to level up and start renting them out.
 

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Yes. I grew up with nikkas like this. I come from a working/middle class background, and I know several brehs who got caught up in the drug game and prison. The entertainment industry sells us this bullshyt image of ourselves, and so many of us buy into it, thinking we need to be that. Furthermore, the chicks love it. Low-key, this is the reason why lots of people do it. That d-boy lifestyle brings fast money, popularity, and adventure. I've seen nerdy brehs transform into d-boy types overnight, and have hella h0es. However, pretty much all of them have spent time in prison, and have trouble getting their lives back on track.

More than a few dudes in the black community dwell in the "real nikka" images to attract broads
 

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Compton is not a suburb

Compton is very much a suburb of the greater Los Angeles. To your knowledge. "suburb" is short of "suburban" which broken down mean a substitute or extension of an urban city.

Do not confuse the suburbs with "the ghetto". The ghetto is locations within the urban city, not outskirts of the urban city.
 

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It's crazy that Pusha-Ts last album did 500 posts in 3 years and this shyt does nearly half in a day. Coli is the biggest bandwagon, dikkriding whatever is commercially poppin/dikkriding anyone who is dissing Drake site out :mjlol:

That's why this site has almost no Drake stans but his name popping like he's MJ :gucci:
 

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It's crazy that Pusha-Ts last album did 500 posts in 3 years and this shyt does nearly half in a day. Coli is the biggest bandwagon, dikkriding whatever is commercially poppin/dikkriding anyone who is dissing Drake site out :mjlol:

That's why this site has almost no Drake stans but his name popping like he's MJ :gucci:
 

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stop breh

you arent fooling anyone
So name more than 4, cause I honestly don't know. All I see is negative Drake threads. Or the same 2-3 dudes posting billboard records.
I just checked the album thread 94 votes, like 75% 1 star. And that's a thread about his album, that stans should be flocking and does who don't like him shouldn't I would assume.

Point is, that his MJ-like hype on here is not driven by the few cats that fukk with him. But by the large group of dukes that stay on the dikk of anyone that's a trending topic.
 

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So name more than 4, cause I honestly don't know. All I see is negative Drake threads. Or the same 2-3 dudes posting billboard records.
I just checked the album thread 94 votes, like 75% 1 star. And that's a thread about his album, that stans should be flocking and does who don't like him shouldn't I would assume.

Point is, that his MJ-like hype on here is not driven by the few cats that fukk with him. But by the large group of dukes that stay on the dikk of anyone that's a trending topic.
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