The fastest-growing vegan demographic is African Americans. Wu-Tang and other artist paved the way.

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I don't believe this. I literally tell no one I"m vegan but the minute they find out they suddenly got 99 questions and always get defensive when I don't even be saying nothing. Like they'll say some shyt like 'oh but where u get____ from?" and make remarks about how the food I"m making is nasty or just other hating comments.

You'll say you vegan and suddenly people become health experts and want to tell you how you missing out on stuff and you'll get this if you don't do that.

I think people just feel some sort of guilty conscience if you get into a ethical debate which I don't care to do with people. if someone asks for an opinion and get mad at the answers it's not the vegan that's arrogant it's the person asking the question. Like some people feel disrespected if you don't want to participate in something with them and suddenly project.

My best friend is vegan and everything in this post is 100% factual. People swear that vegans are annoying but everyone turns into a nutritionist or doctor even though they've never done any research on it. They don't realize that they're the annoying ones. One dude sends my homeboy pictures of steaks and meats like every week. Those are the type of people who are quick to tell you that vegans are annoying.
 

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I found out recently that just about all medical experts don't recommend babies be on vegan diets...that's very interesting. :jbhmm:

with that said, I believe this study is including people that "try" vegan lifestyles, but don't stick to it. I know quite a few of those
 

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I found out recently that just about all medical experts don't recommend babies be on vegan diets...that's very interesting. :jbhmm:

with that said, I believe this study is including people that "try" vegan lifestyles, but don't stick to it. I know quite a few of those
They're not 'experts' if you're talking about medical doctors. They get less than 24 hours on average education on nutrition. The largest body of nutritional experts have stated:

“It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases,” the group wrote in its announcement. “These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes.”

https://jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(16)31192-3/abstract
That's from over 100,000 nutritional and health experts, that which the average medical doctor isn't.

My best friend is vegan and everything in this post is 100% factual. People swear that vegans are annoying but everyone turns into a nutritionist or doctor even though they've never done any research on it. They don't realize that they're the annoying ones. One dude sends my homeboy pictures of steaks and meats like every week. Those are the type of people who are quick to tell you that vegans are annoying.
Yup. I got people in my family(they be joking though) that do that. They'll be cooking something and be like "Yo fatboi i left you some pork son :troll:" Most people haven't done any research on it outside of googling some information on the spot when questioned. I've seen enough debates from "experts" get sonned everytime they try to argue against nutrition. I've heard every fear mongering thing over the past 12 years. The minute a vegan gets sick suddenly they need a chicken sandwich or grilled steak like wtf? :mjlol:


The best one was this vegan UFC fighter James wilks who came on the Joe Roegan show to respond to the claims this other guy kept making about his film The Game Changers he worked on. Dude destroyed every talking point that guy was making and they(Joe Roegan and Chris) had like 3 hours worth of discussion prior to him coming on.
 

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They're not 'experts' if you're talking about medical doctors. They get less than 24 hours on average education on nutrition. The largest body of nutritional experts have stated:

“It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases,” the group wrote in its announcement. “These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes.”

https://jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(16)31192-3/abstract
That's from over 100,000 nutritional and health experts, that which the average medical doctor isn't.

Oh word? :patrice:

A baby kept on a vegan diet died. His parents have been arrested. | Boston.com

Malnutrition Case Stirs Debate About Vegan Diets for Babies

Toddler Fed Vegan Diet Hospitalized for Severe Malnutrition and Taken From Parents
 
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exactly....

most people probably couldnt tell you why theyre a vegan

plus most of them think eating bullshyt like impossible burgers is a good thing.....

:mjgrin:

why do we follow entertainers? cats will believe anything if diddy or meek say it....:usure:

but will question the validity of neil de grasse tyson :wow:

the shyt truly boggles my mind :francis:
 
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You don't know the specifics of a case to say what was wrong and what was right. That child in the story was said to be neglected, didn't eat for almost a week because she wasn't "feeling well" and was dehydrated and I think wasn't even breast fed. Restricted foods(barely any veggies and neglect(probably barely fed the child) is the cause here.

"The O’Learys have two other children together, ages 3 and 5, whom police saw at their residence in September. One had blackened and decaying teeth" - Another sign of neglect, they probably dont even buy the kids dental hygiene products.
Neglect and mistreatement caused the death, not because of a vegan diet. Says the baby didn't even eat for a week and was ignored when she had breathing problems and the parents just went to sleep. That's mentally ill parents.

There's millions of children who grew up vegan/vegetarian so a story or two about a child who died due to multiple reasons isn't indication that a diet is faulty. That story is clickbait as hell.


Non vegan child dying from malnutrition
Mother charged with murder after toddler dies of malnutrition

Another one
https://www.wxii12.com/article/new-...-of-toddler-who-died-in-mothers-care/29815119
 
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US beef is generally low grade..no reason to eat it. I almost went vegetarian because I couldn't stomach the GM beef and chicken.
 
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I think a lot of the replacement foods can be bad too. I bought some veggie crumbles from Whole Foods to replace ground meat, and made a delicious protein scramble with the crumbles, chickpeas, black beans, onions and green peppers, but I read the ingredients, and there is wheat gluten in the crumbles. A lot of those products have wheat gluten in them.

And that dairy free cheese will have you clogged up for a few days.

:hubie:

So a lot of it is having the discipline to cut out certain foods. Just because it doesn’t contain animal products, doesn’t mean it’s healthy. And it’s difficult for black people who live in food deserts to have access to fresh ingredients.
 

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Good for them. No plans in the near future of giving up chicken or fish. Have already cut beef out of my diet, rarely eat pork, and the only dairy I consume regularly is cheese. But that’s it. I’ve done the vegan thing before, and not doing that shyt full fledge ever again. There are some products that just can’t be replaced, especially with taste.
 

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Vegan/veggie for 2 years now and have the occasional slip up and have meat when craving but always regret it after as it’s not worth it.

I also powerlift. So I get my protein from plants and nuts

I’m also lactose intolerant and I think I’m just getting gluten issues as I’m getting all the symptoms.
 

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You don't know the specifics of a case to say what was wrong and what was right. That child in the story was said to be neglected, didn't eat for almost a week because she wasn't "feeling well" and was dehydrated and I think wasn't even breast fed. Restricted foods(barely any veggies and neglect(probably barely fed the child) is the cause here.


Neglect and mistreatement caused the death, not because of a vegan diet. Says the baby didn't even eat for a week and was ignored when she had breathing problems and the parents just went to sleep. That's mentally ill parents.

There's millions of children who grew up vegan/vegetarian so a story or two about a child who died due to multiple reasons isn't indication that a diet is faulty. That story is clickbait as hell.


Non vegan child dying from malnutrition

Mother charged with murder after toddler dies of malnutrition

Another one

https://www.wxii12.com/article/new-details-emerge-regarding-physical-condition-of-toddler-who-died-in-mothers-care/29815119

I think you're missing the point..read that NYT article, vegan diets for babies are fine.

however, in order for young babies to get the key nutrients they need, vegans have to take extra steps to ensure the babies get them.

no doubt the nutrients found in most "traditional" baby foods on the market...

so let me reiterate: VEGAN DIETS FOR BABIES ARE FINE. but if you're gonna do it, make sure you're on top of it because if not, the baby could die.
 

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I should’ve put this in higher learning. Nikkas ain’t reading shyt.

It said the main reason blacks are going vegan is because we seen the health damage to our communities and parents.

The Wu-Tang and other artist influence is about their investments in spreading Veganism into the black community. It highlighted styles P and Jadakiss four juice bars and Jay Z investment in the black owned Partake foods. Hence the hip hop is leading.


The third part highlighted the history of rappers promoting veganism in earlier raps ( this is more like a history lesson) She highlighted KRS-One “beef” and dead Prez.
Clickbait headlines fault
 
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