THE GRAPEVINE : Hoteps & "The Gay Agenda"

SmarkMero

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13:56 to 15:13 of part 3 is pure delusion, yet everyone is acting like she said something so profound :mindblown:. Modern black feminism :snoop:.
I agree. She definitely had me like
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Calling any man "p*ssy" is outta line unless you prepared for whatever comes after that. This is why you got so many brothas aligning themselves with Hoteps way of thinking. You can't even talk with those people and have a different opinion from them without them trying to disrespect you.
 

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Black Women and Black Gays continue to let their White counterparts use their plights and problems to push their own agenda. Then turn their backs on them over and over again. When the numbers came out about how many white women voted for Trump, they should've pulled out of all intersectional movements. That would have been the ultimate betrayal for me
hilariously, do u know what blk feminist started doing??? instead of calling out their fellow wht woman, they started honing in on the 13% of blk men who voted trump... that's when i was done... i don't argue with them, and i don't argue for them.... i'm done.
 

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To keep it a stack..outside of just watching this as a guilty pleasure/entertainment/fukkery...talking about this isn't accomplishing anything. I've learned in life that people will get behind those who are creating something, building something, becoming better in the sense of accomplishing their goals whatever they may be. Women fall in line with men about their business, men will want to emulate that when they see your success. I would rather concern myself with that.

Just move silently and do what you have to do.
 

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Breh, all you need to do is look at how this 'inclusiveness' has played out since the civil Rights era :yeshrug:


Blacks are the most marginalized group in the US by far. On top of that, they are specifically targeted in a way that other groups of people simply are not. Take on too many causes and your voice is simply drowned out by privileged white homosexuals and women who want marginally improved "rights".

The black cause has been trivialized because some black women and black gays would rather discuss bullshyt identity politics and bogus myths like "the patriarchy" instead of tangible issues that effect all black people and are unique to black people.

I could never disagree with the bolded there. Its truth. However, the plight of black women IN PARTICULAR is a root cause of some of the black communities pathologies and insecurities that allow for our continued oppression. If the mothers of our people do not feel safe, secure, protected and confident. How on earth can we expect them to pass positivity to the youth they birth? "The Patriarchy" is very real, but it is run by white men. And you as a black man see that issue of race before gender, and that's fine. But understand that our women see the double issue of race/gender and to not empathize with that is folly. They are vital to our continued progress.

Also, how do you expect the movement to succeed when a gay black man could rise to prominence and actually fight for our people is swiftly de-legitimized by straight black men for no other reason but their orientation. Remember there would be no Montgomery Bus Boycott if not for Banyard Rustin. Remember James Baldwin was one of our greatest minds.


So your threshold of truth is whether or not a Black leader gets killed.
That's Christianity slavery and the mind of a n-gga. Don't even try to mix Black Liberation in with that garbage

No, its my threshold for when the power structure begins to TRULY see the threat of the proletariat and the Black man. Part of all this is because once champions rise out of our people they are immense forces that are truly transcendent and have the power to unite people against a system that has oppressed them. We see it every 80-100 years or so. But the rise of one people usually comes at the expense of another, or at least another people become afterthoughts. However, when the movement began to include poor people of all colors the powers that be knew that it would only be a matter of time before their system was torn down...and thus, assassinations.

Had the men I named not been killed we perhaps may not have seen the growth of income inequality that we see now.
 

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And you as a black man see that issue of race before gender, and that's fine. But understand that our women see the double issue of race/gender and to not empathize with that is folly. They are vital to our continued progress.
You cats insist on repeating this dumb shyt over and over even after it had been disproven and that makes you a liar. "Our women see the double issue of race/gender". No they do not. There is no universal sexism that benefits all men over all women. There's only racism which sustematically benefits all whites over all non whites. Black women wouldn't have it any easier if they were black men and in fact they'd have it harder. Stop parroting this stupidass narrative that you've gotten from white people.
Until all black people are liberated, no particular black people are liberated.
The fukk does this even mean? Nothing.
 

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I can't watch the grapevine. That show seem so anti-masculinity and just reeks of fatherlessness :hhh:.
I feel like I'm killing my brain cells every second I try to watch. Their POV's seem like pure confusion to me. :yeshrug:

I fuks with BkChatLDN tho. :wow:
 
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