The Heat are "DEAD" last in total rebounds

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The only 2 teams that have a shot at beating mia is a healthy bulls team and the knicks

Pacers are good but don't have the impact players that can go toe to toe vs bron and wade. George is close but he not there yet. If hibbert decided to dominate the pacers could beat the heat. But he got his money and fell back.

What people don't realize is that miami will compensate for their lack of rebounding by creating turnovers beating you in transition, keeping the game close, then letting bron and wade close that shyt out.

To counter you need players who can drop buckets right with those 2 and granger and george have not shown me they will do that.


The knicks can beat mia on the boards, they have guards the heat won't rattle and they got 2 guys who can drop buckets with bron and wade, melo and jr

The bulls have the same but their other star player besides rose is the coaching and the defense and 2nd chance points. Rose, jimmy, deng.com taj and noah is going to be very difficult for mia to score on. We have to hope rose is on fresh legs which he will be, and when mia take the ball out his hands jimmy deng and taj can hit big shots. That's still in question if they can

if hibbert woke up and decided to be a real center the pacers would increase their chances to get out the east tremendously.

but hibbert wont wake up and command the paint.

collison was a true point who could control the flow of the offense. but they shipped him out. dj and george hill will get the clamps put on them in the offs.

and george, granger and west are good players but not dynamic enough to devastate the heat bulls or knicks. they need a legit superstar and i dont know if george is that yet.

Yes your 100 percent correct :whoo: the pacers unless George or Hibbert or granger turn into superstars in the playoffs bron can take over games , melo, wade , rose , amare . The Margin to beat the heat is hard for everyone but the pacers will find it hard to score once that playoffs defense starts .
 

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:heh: lack of a real closer is going to expose them once again come playoff time . The Knicks can shoot 3's , don't turn the ball over ( huge in beating Miami ) and can outrebound Miami . Not to mention melo can put pressure on bron

reason why the knicks have a good chance in beating miami. the knicks are dead last in turnovers and miami thrives on their transition game which comes off the turnovers.

everytime we play the heat i always cross melo and bron out cuz both of em gonna get theirs anyway so its basically whoever plays better on the rest of the squad.
 

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:russ:@ a league full of rebound-obsessed GM's.

Riley himself had an epiphany. He shared it with me last summer.

"Yo RR, you know how I be trippin' sometimes, righ. Look, forreal? that shyt I said about a team needing rebounders to win championships got mad play in the streets. But after game 5 of the Finals something clicked in my mind. I told myself, "Why the fukk do you need rebounders if the shot is wet from the release?"

I just said word. I didn't know dude was gonna go out and add RayRay and Rashard to go along with Mike, Shane and Mario ... and oh yeah - Bron, Wade and Bosh ....
 

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2. Their offensive rebounding number is misleading too, becasue their the most efficent offens up thier, so they have less opportunities for offensive rebounding. .

nah, don't buy it.

the Nuggets are one of the top teams in offensive efficiency and they still attack the offensive glass with great vengeance and furious anger. :iggy:
 

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NY is the only team I think could actually beat them....not push em but actually win 4 out of 7. On paper they'll be by far the most complete eastern conference team Miami would face in the 3yrs together.

Its really their offense that does it. For all talk of Chi/Bos the last 2 years, them squads couldn't score. The Heat always knew those squads couldn't run away from them offensively

That damn Felton/Chandler pick n roll, with all them damn shooters PLUS 'Melo at the elbow and Stat flashing in the post/flaring for jumpers. WAAAY more challenging to defend than anything they've seen out east.

But know this...

Bosh: 33.8mpg
Wade: 34mpg
Lebron: 6.5fta

All three of those numbers are gonna be way up come May.
 

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if hibbert woke up and decided to be a real center the pacers would increase their chances to get out the east tremendously.

but hibbert wont wake up and command the paint.

collison was a true point who could control the flow of the offense. but they shipped him out. dj and george hill will get the clamps put on them in the offs.

and george, granger and west are good players but not dynamic enough to devastate the heat bulls or knicks. they need a legit superstar and i dont know if george is that yet.

this is the same shyt I have been saying the last couple years regarding the pacers. They need a legit superstar if they wanna come out the east. in the playoffs they get real shaky when the game gets close in the 4th. that unless paul george proves me wrong this post season.
 

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Was telling a friend this last week before they played, and he looked at me like a genius when they won.

They're probably the only real threat to Miami in the East.

:rudy: The Bulls are the only threat to Miami.... Lol at an 10-16 road team being a threat to the Heat.
 

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The Pacers still matchup very well to the Heat, are you saying that isn't true?

They match up well, but it doesn't mean shyt if they can't win on the road. :manny: If they play either the Bulls or Heat I can't see them beating any of them at home. Also, their half court offense is :scusthov: They'll have the most trouble out of all the top teams in the east in terms of scoring. George is nice but he hasn't played against playoff defense being the top guy, and I expect him to struggle imo..
 

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them nikkas can match up all they want, but when the game is on the line, who's gonna get the pacers buckets when :lolbron: decides to go HAM in the 4th?

They match up well, but it doesn't mean shyt if they can't win on the road. :manny: If they play either the Bulls or Heat I can't see them beating any of them at home. Also, their half court offense is :scusthov: They'll have the most trouble out of all the top teams in the east in terms of scoring. George is nice but he hasn't played against playoff defense being the top guy, and I expect him to struggle imo..

:whoa: I'm not denying any of that.

It's also worth noting that the Heat scored 1 transition point against them in their first game this season, and 7 in their second. Two of the fourth lowest transition point games for the Heat, which is what they thrive off of. That, plus getting severely outrebounded may put them in a hole.

But yeah, stopping LBJ is going to be a problem, and George is gonna have to step it up BIG time for them to take 4/7.
 

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NY is the only team I think could actually beat them....not push em but actually win 4 out of 7. On paper they'll be by far the most complete eastern conference team Miami would face in the 3yrs together.

Its really their offense that does it. For all talk of Chi/Bos the last 2 years, them squads couldn't score. The Heat always knew those squads couldn't run away from them offensively

That damn Felton/Chandler pick n roll, with all them damn shooters PLUS 'Melo at the elbow and Stat flashing in the post/flaring for jumpers. WAAAY more challenging to defend than anything they've seen out east.

But know this...

Bosh: 33.8mpg
Wade: 34mpg
Lebron: 6.5fta

All three of those numbers are gonna be way up come May.

This is on point. The Knicks are starting to resemble that '11 Dallas team. Conceptually they're similar just off Chandler playing his exact same role in Dallas, JKidd playing his exact same role, Felton being the JJ Barrea off the P&R, JR Smith being J Terry, Shump being Desean, and Carmelo of course playing the role of Dirk. Big difference tho is that Amare has channeled his inner Hakeem and is a beast now in the post. No pick and roll needed.

I'd say the Bulls with Rose healthy still have a great chance just like they had in '11 and would've had in '12... but yea, if it again comes down to putting so much pressure on your defense and hustle (to overcompensate for unreliable offense) just to keep shyt close in hopes Rose can still have enough left to ball out in the 4th... thats tough. It can take you far if Miami is on their bullshyt like with Indy and Boston last year, but IDK if you can actually close them out even still. And, again, that's assuming MIA doesn't start off the series focused.. and i don't see them bullshytting around if they were to face a healthy Bull's team... not like how they were vs Indiana and the aging Celtics imo; teams i felt they kinda took for granted.

Also, a couple weeks ago i felt the top 4 East teams and the set in stone line up (barring injuries/trades) for the 2nd round was gon be some combination of MIA, NY, CHI, and BK... but now i'm not sure whether BK makes it outta the 1st round if they don't find a way to grab/hold that 3rd seed and leave CHI to deal with IND in a 4/5 matchup.
 
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