ajnapoleon
Veteran
Mike was the tallest giant in the land OG little SG’s
I do admit his fade away he added was amazing
The new generation isn’t buying the MJ propaganda
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I do admit his fade away he added was amazing
Field Marshall Bradley
Veteran
Real Talk... MJ was a legit 6'6 at SG in the eastern conference when all the other eastern conference playoff teams had a SG at 6'3......THis like from 91 to 93
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Breh these new nikkas are missing all kinds of critical thinking, bunch of Kelly BundysThey didnt exist because the bulls were the dynasty and no one could beat them.
These new nikkas
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But they 3peated twice, Rodman and Kukoc wasn’t on the 91-93 teamThey didn't exist because no other team was as stacked
They had two top 5 players, a 6MOTY, 2X DPOY/Top 75 player and the GOAT coach going up against Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp
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So you wish MJ wasn’t MJYou just described Jordan
Played in an era diluted by expansion, played in an era with illegal defense rules that catered to ISO scorers, played in the decade with the fewest all-time great players, played on a team capable of winning 55+ games with scrubs replacing him, couldn't even win a single playoff round without a HOF teammate or two, and even had fraudulent stats that allowed him to win an undeserving DPOY. His career is vastly different if he debuted a decade earlier or a decade later.
I don’t think a genie exists in any imagination that could grant that many wishes 
LiveFromLondon
Superstar
They didnt exist because the bulls were the dynasty and no one could beat them.
These new nikkas
Point still stands, they capitalised at then end of 2 dynasties, just like OKC are threatening to do now. You can't be this dense. They like Mike Tyson winning where nobody else was great.
SymbolicOne09
All Star
You dont think there great or good because you remember how dominate Mike tyson(bulls , mj) were. I dont know what kinda point your trying to make ... in 98 the jazz swept a 60 win lakers squad which ended up becoming the next dynasty.
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Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Bron was playing with arguably the most offensively skilled PG of all time and a 3pt shooting big that previously averaged 26 and 13.If he is who is tries to finesse the public into believing he is (thru propaganda) then he gets it done. Instead he watched KD walk him down for game winners in 2 separate finals. Before that we watched Kawhi enter the game and him shudder in panic. And before that, and worst of all, we saw him get bullied by Jason Terry and JJ Barea:
He was the 5th leading scorer in this SERIES btw, yet later says the team was too top heavy instead of of being accountable for his sorry ass play. I wonder if you have an example of MJ EVER getting bullied like that or like how Kobe was in the Allstar game?You just described Jordan
Played in an era diluted by expansion, played in an era with illegal defense rules that catered to ISO scorers, played in the decade with the fewest all-time great players, played on a team capable of winning 55+ games with scrubs replacing him, couldn't even win a single playoff round without a HOF teammate or two, and even had fraudulent stats that allowed him to win an undeserving DPOY. His career is vastly different if he debuted a decade earlier or a decade later.
Yikes. Imagine MJ going to get Dominique Wilkins and Barkley after losing to the 4-5 HOF having Celts/3 HOF having Pistons (like Lebron ran to Wade/Bosh)instead of elevating himself and his teammates into being champions. Imagine comparing MJ playing with Pippen alone and later Pipp/Rodman to LBJ playing with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, KLove, AD, Luka along with lesser good to great players/role players like Dwight, Russ, Ray Allen, Carmelo, Rondo, DLo, Rui, Austin Reeves, etc. AND STILL somehow complaining about your teammates?
Imagine saying MJ didn't deserve his DPOY, not based on what you yourself actually saw, but based on an article that thinks his stats (steals/blocks) got him DPOY. Meanwhile the year before, Michael Cooper got DPOY and wasnt top 50 in either steals or blocks as he only averaged 1 steal and .5 blocks. Is it based on stats or impact?
Imagine complaining about "illegal defense" in a time where it's almost illegal to play defense at all. I wonder what players got as soft as a whistle as Shae or James Harden? Or imagine complaining about "fraudulent stats" in an era that allows double and triple stepbacks, moving screens, carries, travels, and palming the ball. I wonder what some of these "great players" would look like if the game was called as it was originally intended instead of being called to increase entertainment value?
Kobe didn't try to be better than MJ by tearing MJ and his accomplishments down. He tried to match and exceed them. LBJ stacked the deck to catch MJ, hilariously failed, and is now trying to tear down MJ's accomplishments or the competition in his era to make the KD sized gap between MJ and LBJs accomplishments seem closer than they actually are. And people like you are either too dumb or too fanboyed out to actually critically think about what you're seeing.
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Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
LBJ went to Miami and tried to get Spoelstra fired the minute things went left. You think he allows rookie coach Phil Jackson to coach him long enough to become the great coach he became? MJ was coachable. Bron, not so much
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Bron was playing with arguably the most offensively skilled PG of all time and a 3pt shooting big that previously averaged 26 and 13.If he is who is tries to finesse the public into believing he is (thru propaganda) then he gets it done. Instead he watched KD walk him down for game winners in 2 separate finals. Before that we watched Kawhi enter the game and him shudder in panic. And before that, and worst of all, we saw him get bullied by Jason Terry and JJ Barea:
Yikes. Imagine MJ going to get Dominique Wilkins and Barkley after losing to the 4-5 HOF having Celts/3 HOF having Pistons (like Lebron ran to Wade/Bosh)instead of elevating himself and his teammates into being champions. Imagine comparing MJ playing with Pippen alone and later Pipp/Rodman to LBJ playing with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, KLove, AD, Luka along with lesser good to great players/role players like Dwight, Russ, Ray Allen, Carmelo, Rondo, DLo, Rui, Austin Reeves, etc. AND STILL somehow complaining about your teammates?
Imagine saying MJ didn't deserve his DPOY, not based on what you yourself actually saw, but based on an article that thinks his stats (steals/blocks) got him DPOY. Meanwhile the year before, Michael Cooper got DPOY and wasnt top 50 in either steals or blocks as he only averaged 1 steal and .5 blocks. Is it based on stats or impact?
Imagine complaining about "illegal defense" in a time where it's almost illegal to play defense at all. I wonder what players got as soft as a whistle as Shae or James Harden? Or imagine complaining about "fraudulent stats" in an era that allows double and triple stepbacks, moving screens, carries, travels, and palming the ball. I wonder what some of these "great players" would look like if the game was called as it was originally intended instead of being called to increase entertainment value?
Kobe didn't try to be better than MJ by tearing MJ and his accomplishments down. He tried to match and exceed them. LBJ stacked the deck to catch MJ, hilariously failed, and is now trying to tear down MJ's accomplishments or the competition in his era to make the KD sized gap between MJ and LBJs accomplishments seem closer than they actually are. And people like you are either too dumb or too fanboyed out to actually critically think about what you're seeing.
Prolfic defintive Coli all time posting.
This handled everything @Everythingg
Omg..........
Damn.
Just floored by this.
Art Barr
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
The funny thing is Kobe is my favorite player of all time and I grew up rooting for him to pass MJ up. And he didn't but at least he tried to pass MJ up the right way by trying exceed MJs accomplishments on the court.
It's nasty to see the talk around Bron's greatness and potential of being the best ever revolve around diminishing those that paved the way for him. Especially when he's spent the past 15 years chasing MJ by stacking the deck when it comes to his teammates, then after he fails somehow finding a way to complain or blame shift.
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mj relationship was not perfect with every coach he had phil got time to be great because he was greatLBJ went to Miami and tried to get Spoelstra fired the minute things went left. You think he allows rookie coach Phil Jackson to coach him long enough to become the great coach he became? MJ was coachable. Bron, not so much
if he weren't he would have end up burnt like the bag of coaches mj had that nobody remembers
and at this point we can retrospectively say none of the coaches lbj had were phil
there's no reward in waiting multiple seasons to say this coach ain't it
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Spoelstra was LeBron’s Phil Jackson, the Heat made 4 finals in a row. What more does LeBron need from a coach to win?