The NOI had the best solution for black people

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No I didn't. Hence why I said learn to read with understanding. I literally explained what I meant in the next few sentences. You can take the mob out and my point is still the same. Again please learn to read with understanding.

I get what you are saying, but you cant be for the betterment of black people by forcibly stealing money from black businesses for the purpose of "protection"
 

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Enter Ados FBA lineage ideology

indiscriminate of religion. Full on purpose based on tangible history and culture

There religion is the Europeans money and being just like the white man but black. A movement that lacks spirituality,mental,physcological and physical health is a dead one. The only promising movement is Carbonnation,led by a disfunctional leader. But Malcolm was once Detroit Red:francis:. Ignore the messenger and take the message.
 

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I get what you are saying, but you cant be for the betterment of black people by forcibly stealing money from black businesses for the purpose of "protection"
I agree with you. I was just telling the other poster I'm not surprised when it does happen because its nothing new.
 

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i agree.


but what is NOI goal in this respect? To bring all black people back to africa and establish what exactly? Cant bring the white mans money. Nor this culture. Is their a path towards total independence when people arrive to the motherland with no funds ?

I dont know what their goal is,probably whatever makes the most money at the time. Ive seen Farakhan bragging about how he warned us of integration yet he has many business here in the US and hasnt gon anywhere or taken blacks in mass anywhere. That hasnt been his primary message. NOI wants a "seperate state" in the white mans land. So basically asking the European for a seperate room in his house. They also want the black man to be treated fairly and equal under the law. Which would mean putting faith in the white mans law:francis:. I used to believe in the nation and theyve done great work as well,but that movement is dead in the water.
 

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WHY HIJACK ISLAM THO?

THAT WAS NEVER GUNA WORK
Institution of Islam in America was set up and orchestrated by white Arabs. We adopted it for the same reason africans accepted Christianity, and Islam to combat the other religion and what it was doing domestically to the people.
 

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There religion is the Europeans money and being just like the white man but black. A movement that lacks spirituality,mental,physcological and physical health is a dead one. The only promising movement is Carbonnation,led by a disfunctional leader. But Malcolm was once Detroit Red:francis:. Ignore the messenger and take the message.
Disagree with the last point natureboy is a weirdo but I agree with the 1st point. Ados/fba is leveraging black conflict to repackage integration and capitalism. This angle was done during the Civil rights era and in the talented 10 era which ultimately sells the same dish, become black/white people double down on Americanism to progress which going all the way back to the negro/colored conventions this angle NEVER works. Its why fba/ados is already dying and being reduced to internet gang tribes banging on other black people worrying more about who playing roles in movies than getting anything significant done politically and socially.
 

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As far as the thread the NOI had a great plan but its hit its ceiling due to religious dogma. Sadly the NOI is in the same boat the Christian church is in at this point waiting more for a spiritual rapture to change things then understanding the work really is only going to be done by us. Church waiting for Jesus noi waiting on the mother ship. Both will die waiting smh

I also think we need to move away from this idea that its only 1 way to do revolution. Multiple answers are right and Multiple solutions are needed.
 

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I've said most of this for years.

Malcolm turned on Elijah Muhammed because of a female. Elijah married a woman Malcolm was in love with. The JFK situation and being removed from his post sent him over the edge. Malcolm broke NOI rules as an adulterer and wrote letters to Elijah admitting this. Told him the women in the mosque he slept with he had sex with but only made love to Betty.

Elijah never slept with teenage girls nor was he an adulterer. All of his wives were of age and they denounced Malcolm at Saviours Day. The teenage girls held clerical positions and malcolm knew this. Did you know malcolm linked up with a jew lawyer to get noi women to take Elijah Muhammad to court and Elijah won?

It bothers me to see Elijah Muhammad, one of the greatest afram leaders be written out of history and disrespected while his own personal Judas gets the darling spin in black circles.
nikkas are really shyting on Malcom X, one of our greatest most selfless leaders :snoop: y’all are quick to say folks are throwing dirt on him with claims about his sexuality but y’all are assaulting his character :snoop: calling this man a Judas :mindblown:
 

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As far as the thread the NOI had a great plan but its hit its ceiling due to religious dogma. Sadly the NOI is in the same boat the Christian church is in at this point waiting more for a spiritual rapture to change things then understanding the work really is only going to be done by us. Church waiting for Jesus noi waiting on the mother ship. Both will die waiting smh

I also think we need to move away from this idea that its only 1 way to do revolution. Multiple answers are right and Multiple solutions are needed.

We need multiple ACTIONS vs solutions,black people need to actually see these solutions put into practice. All this arguing and debating about whats the best way to move,and alot of people doing the arguing haven't even taken their own advice. Umar Johnson is the Prince oF Panafricanism,raised all that money for a school to build in America when he could have used it to take black people to Africa and start a life. I know you think Natureboy is weird,but spirituality often seems weird. If you think he is weird hate to see what you think about the NOI or Christians in general:francis:. Carbonnation gave you the science so you know how physical health relates to spirituality,and how mental health relates to physical health. They actually get on line every day and counsel black people through emotional issues,relationship issues. You can't just call up your pastor or Farakhan to get advice all the time or ever. I admire the fact they've taken action and left America several times even after being deported back to the states. They've left at least 3 times while folks who have been preaching panafricanism for decades haven't set the example once. Their main issue is that they are going through the same issues they are giving advice about. They could easily lie and not let you see it,but the disfunction would come out like it does with all of these groups when it exist. And disfunction existed in every last one of these groups we talked about,we just didn't get to see it on instagram live as it was happening. Ignore the messengers and take the message and do it better I say. Carbonnation is the start of a greater Nation Of Islam imo.
 

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There religion is the Europeans money and being just like the white man but black. A movement that lacks spirituality,mental,physcological and physical health is a dead one. The only promising movement is Carbonnation,led by a disfunctional leader. But Malcolm was once Detroit Red:francis:. Ignore the messenger and take the message.
not sure about the physical health thing but a lineage oriented idealogy has all the bolded
 
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