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Yo kind of off topic but I've been reading this book and I found out Huey newton used to extort other black businesses brehs

Shyt hurt me :wow:
Why? People aren't really no different regardless of race. The mob was extorting their own too. That's just how it goes so I'm never surprised on stuff like this. I'm honestly more surprised when people act like just being around their own insulates them from problems. That's been shown not to be the case.
 

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Why? People aren't really no different regardless of race. The mob was extorting their own too. That's just how it goes so I'm never surprised on stuff like this. I'm honestly more surprised when people act like just being around their own insulates them from problems. That's been shown not to be the case.
This is not the mob dude. This is the Black Panthers. Not the Bloods, Crips or GDs. But a Black organization built to put blacks in a BETTER place. Not worried about what white folks had goin on.
 

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This is not the mob dude. This is the Black Panthers. Not the Bloods, Crips or GDs. But a Black organization built to put blacks in a BETTER place. Not worried about what white folks had goin on.
Who said it was the mob? Please learn to read with understanding. The point doesn't change. I'm not surprised when groups do thngs like this to their own. I dont take not caring what whites do to understand simple things like this.
 

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Who said it was the mob? Please learn to read with understanding. The point doesn't change. I'm not surprised when groups do thngs like this to their own. I dont take not caring what whites do to understand simple things like this.
:francis:
Did you compare the Black Panthers to the Mob or did you not? Go look at your last post and then you can respond please.
 

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Ehh maybe they had the right idea for some people. But alot of us black people have been able to succeed in America and wouldn’t go anywhere. I heard its still alot of space in Liberia though.
 

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Did you compare the Black Panthers to the Mob or did you not? Go look at your last post and then you can respond please.
No I didn't. Hence why I said learn to read with understanding. I literally explained what I meant in the next few sentences. You can take the mob out and my point is still the same. Again please learn to read with understanding.
 

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well you can believe who you want to believe, but I'm telling you right now that Malcolm was lying. He was prideful and arrogant and let himself be duped by white people who played to his ego and made him believe that he should be the leader of the Nation.

Malcolm was a pimp and a hustler before Elijah Muhammad taught him and raised him to be the Malcolm X that you know and respect. How you gon respect the student but not respect the man that taught him? backwards thinking, bro.

If you say Malcolm was great, then the man who taught him wasn't greater than him? Malcolm himself credited Elijah Muhammad for everything that he was.

Now with that being said, Malcolm's ego was out of control. He began to think that he should be the leader and not Elijah Muhammad and when he went out there and started talking trash about JFK's assasination (which Elijah Muhammad had SPECIFICALLY told his ministers to NOT speak on), he was sat down as a minister for 90 days (just as any person who disobeyed Elijah Muhammad would have been). When you didn't follow orders, you got sat down. That was for any member in the Nation of Islam. Malcolm wasn't special.

Instead of him taking his 90 days on the chin (you mess up, take the consequences that come with it), he decided to leave to "start his own movement" which was a failure by the way.

Malcolm gets shine today... but back in those days, nobody was paying him attention once he broke away from the Nation.

I could show you articles to prove that. For instance, there was one time when Elijah Muhammad was having an event in NYC, and Malcolm decided to hold one on the same day to try to compete with him.

Everybody showed up at Elijah Muhammad's event and hardly nobody showed up to Malcolm's event. It was such a bad turnout that the newspapers of that time were going in on Malcolm for it.

Malcolm got angry and started lashing out and saying made-up things about Elijah Muhammad because he was angry.

Which, that in itself, showed what kind of man he was on the inside. Just because you mad, you go out and lie on a man who YOU said saved your life? Nobody else said it. YOU said it. And you turn on him?

Plenty of people left the Nation over the years, and they were free to do so. But to come back and turn on the Nation and try to destroy it and lie on Elijah Muhammad just because you were mad?

nah, bro, Malcolm was lowdown. He was lowdown from the beginning and when he left the Nation, he went back to his same mindset that he had before. He had no sense of loyalty. To go running to white people trying to tear Elijah Muhammad down was the epitome of hypocrisy.

Reminds me of a lyric from Jay Z "Dig a Hole"

I've said most of this for years.

Malcolm turned on Elijah Muhammed because of a female. Elijah married a woman Malcolm was in love with. The JFK situation and being removed from his post sent him over the edge. Malcolm broke NOI rules as an adulterer and wrote letters to Elijah admitting this. Told him the women in the mosque he slept with he had sex with but only made love to Betty.

Elijah never slept with teenage girls nor was he an adulterer. All of his wives were of age and they denounced Malcolm at Saviours Day. The teenage girls held clerical positions and malcolm knew this. Did you know malcolm linked up with a jew lawyer to get noi women to take Elijah Muhammad to court and Elijah won?

It bothers me to see Elijah Muhammad, one of the greatest afram leaders be written out of history and disrespected while his own personal Judas gets the darling spin in black circles.
 

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No I didn't. Hence why I said learn to read with understanding. I literally explained what I meant in the next few sentences. You can take the mob out and my point is still the same. Again please learn to read with understanding.
Well obviously yeah if I had the BLACK PANTHERS in my community damn sure wouldn't think they would run down on me of all ppl based on what they stand for. If you wanna call me naive for that then :yeshrug:
 

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Well obviously yeah if I had the BLACK PANTHERS in my community damn sure wouldn't think they would run down on me of all ppl based on what they stand for. If you wanna call me naive for that then :yeshrug:
I don't want to call you anything to be honest. I'm just surprised that you're surprised. This is something that seems to always happens with these types of groups was all I'm saying. If it doesn't happen cool but if it does I'm not shocked either because that's just life. I was using the mob as an example just on the they were supposed to be for their people and we know they were still charging for "protection". I think a lot of,these groups start out with noble intentions but as it gets bigger they often times suffer from the same things that made them want to create the groups in the first place.

No beef fam just posting my thoughts like you. Have a good one.
 

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I don't want to call you anything to be honest. I'm just surprised that you're surprised. This is something that seems to always happens with these types of groups was all I'm saying. If it doesn't happen cool but if it does I'm not shocked either because that's just life. I was using the mob as an example just on the they were supposed to be for their people and we know they were still charging for "protection". I think a lot of,these groups start out with noble intentions but as it gets bigger they often times suffer from the same things that made them want to create the groups in the first place.

No beef fam just posting my thoughts like you. Have a good one.
Yea you right and I agree wit you bro. shyt is sad.
 

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Yo kind of off topic but I've been reading this book and I found out Huey newton used to extort other black businesses brehs

Shyt hurt me :wow:

We dont know who they extorted and why. Having a black business doesnt make you immune to being a c00n. Usually those are the biggest c00ns actually. They pray on black people under the guise that we are black and need to support each other. While really just charging you higher prices in many cases,and giving nothing back to black people. Plus I would have to hear in detail from a trusted panther about the extortion since there was a campaign to villify them with black working class/elites. Of coursr countilpro could put it out there they were extorting businesses.
 
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