The NOI had the best solution for black people

[Premeditated]

100%.

This is why the Nation of Islam and KKK didn't have a huge beef. Both wanted the full separation of races. It was the liberals that wanted integration.

wont be no pawgs for you in the Nation though

 

[Flywin Lannister]

They had their own farmland growing their own food, had their own schools to teach their children, had their own stores, had their own military force to protect and police their communities, rtc.

Yet black people chose to fight to integrate with cacs instead of building our own nation. Look at the results a complete disaster.

No offense, this is a genuine question: you live in a white man's country, studied at a white man's university, passed a white man's test to work in law.

How are you not integrating with cacs?

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

A nation is a new country... it won't be born peacefully or dwell peacefully next to the "Old" country. America was never going to let a new country rise anywhere near it's borders PEACEFULLY. Damn near no country in the world would go for this peacefully. That isn't to say it isn't deserved or anything else just the ideal you have is naive. The second you declare independence you are national threat number one for an infinite amount of reasons, majority of them being Black people have real grievances with America, they would fear retaliation and also international influence, treat it worse than Cuba. Now if you talking about something like what happened with Liberia or even the formation of Israel... yeah sure thing, As long as the Nation is as far away as possible from America its more likely to be a reality. your response is all emotion no logic. the way you argue and debate shyt is all emotion no logic.

We built America it's ours. We just must simply infiltrate leadership and take charge of our nation that we built. The United States will remain the richest most prosperous world super power only difference is ADOS will be the boss and black supremacy shall fall apon the earth

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Who are you quoting, breh? I have them on ignore. Obviously for good reasons. I’ll tell you if they’re a suspected cac or not.


@mattw1313 I can’t see who you guys are quoting. Who is it, so that I can take them off of ignore for a second. I want to get on his ass too.

Will Ross

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

No offense, this is a genuine question: you live in a white man's country, studied at a white man's university, passed a white man's test to work in law.

How are you not integrating with cacs?

We're all integrated to a point. But that doesn't make his points (on this) any less valid

Dude wilds on other stuff but I agree with him on this topic

 

[Kokoro]

Yeah assassinating one of the most prominent black leaders was definitely a solid pro black plan

 

[skylove4]

RELIGION REINFORCES OBEDIENCE WITHOUT MUCH FORCE.

It also allows easier unchecked corruption and manipulators.

 

[skylove4]

He didn't rape anybody he was committing adultery with teenage girls and getting them pregnant. You nikkas lust after bytches on ig all day and want to jump on a high horse.

Do you really think those teenage girls were in any position to resist the powerful minister and some of them were barley teenagers

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Do you really think those teenage girls were in any position to resist the powerful minister and some of them were barley teenagers

Have you been reading this thread breh? We already covered that they weren't teenagers

 

[TallMan_J]

America never truly integrated most people still live in communities that are made up of people that share the same race.
What hurt us was immigration and the crack era. That is what destroyed the community

We get it. It’d be better if you simply admitted that you seek white validation and that you desire to live amongst white people that may or may not despise you.

 

[Starman]

We get it. It’d be better if you simply admitted that you seek white validation and that you desire to live amongst white people that may or may not despise you.

Damn, breh.

Let me ask you this: what do you make of the Black immigrants who migrate to the states and Europe? Some even putting their lives and their children's lives in danger...

 

[skylove4]

Have you been reading this thread breh? We already covered that they weren't teenagers

I chose to believe Malcom x who I think is one of the greatest men ever rather than a man like Elijah Mohammed who I think was a charlatan. I think the NOI was a great and much needed organization and some ways still is but the nature of powerful men who relay messages from god will always eat from the plate of temptation and wickedness

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I chose to believe Malcom x who I think is one of the greatest men ever rather than a man like Elijah Mohammed who I think was a charlatan. I think the NOI was a great and much needed organization and some ways still is but the nature of powerful men who relay messages from god will always eat from the plate of temptation and wickedness

well you can believe who you want to believe, but I'm telling you right now that Malcolm was lying. He was prideful and arrogant and let himself be duped by white people who played to his ego and made him believe that he should be the leader of the Nation.

Malcolm was a pimp and a hustler before Elijah Muhammad taught him and raised him to be the Malcolm X that you know and respect. How you gon respect the student but not respect the man that taught him? backwards thinking, bro.

If you say Malcolm was great, then the man who taught him wasn't greater than him? Malcolm himself credited Elijah Muhammad for everything that he was.

Now with that being said, Malcolm's ego was out of control. He began to think that he should be the leader and not Elijah Muhammad and when he went out there and started talking trash about JFK's assasination (which Elijah Muhammad had SPECIFICALLY told his ministers to NOT speak on), he was sat down as a minister for 90 days (just as any person who disobeyed Elijah Muhammad would have been). When you didn't follow orders, you got sat down. That was for any member in the Nation of Islam. Malcolm wasn't special.

Instead of him taking his 90 days on the chin (you mess up, take the consequences that come with it), he decided to leave to "start his own movement" which was a failure by the way.

Malcolm gets shine today... but back in those days, nobody was paying him attention once he broke away from the Nation.

I could show you articles to prove that. For instance, there was one time when Elijah Muhammad was having an event in NYC, and Malcolm decided to hold one on the same day to try to compete with him.

Everybody showed up at Elijah Muhammad's event and hardly nobody showed up to Malcolm's event. It was such a bad turnout that the newspapers of that time were going in on Malcolm for it.

Malcolm got angry and started lashing out and saying made-up things about Elijah Muhammad because he was angry.

Which, that in itself, showed what kind of man he was on the inside. Just because you mad, you go out and lie on a man who YOU said saved your life? Nobody else said it. YOU said it. And you turn on him?

Plenty of people left the Nation over the years, and they were free to do so. But to come back and turn on the Nation and try to destroy it and lie on Elijah Muhammad just because you were mad?

nah, bro, Malcolm was lowdown. He was lowdown from the beginning and when he left the Nation, he went back to his same mindset that he had before. He had no sense of loyalty. To go running to white people trying to tear Elijah Muhammad down was the epitome of hypocrisy.

Reminds me of a lyric from Jay Z "Dig a Hole"

Hows nikkas dissing me? I made it possible
For nikkas to make history, how is this possible?
Please explain this shyt to me, how is it logical?
Have we forgot our history? Lets open our bibles
Its like the disciples dissing Jesus becoming his rivals
Shunning the one thing that they owe their life to
You let that man hype you to go against your idol

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Damn, breh.

Let me ask you this: what do you make of the Black immigrants who migrate to the states and Europe? Some even putting their lives and their children's lives in danger...

They migrate here because as it stands currently, America is head and shoulders above most other established countries.

Now the crazy thing about that is.... with how bad we know things have been for black ppl in America, what does that say about other countries?

 

[skylove4]

well you can believe who you want to believe, but I'm telling you right now that Malcolm was lying. He was prideful and arrogant and let himself be duped by white people who played to his ego and made him believe that he should be the leader of the Nation.

Malcolm was a pimp and a hustler before Elijah Muhammad taught him and raised him to be the Malcolm X that you know and respect. How you gon respect the student but not respect the man that taught him? backwards thinking, bro.

If you say Malcolm was great, then the man who taught him wasn't greater than him? Malcolm himself credited Elijah Muhammad for everything that he was.

Now with that being said, Malcolm's ego was out of control. He began to think that he should be the leader and not Elijah Muhammad and when he went out there and started talking trash about JFK's assasination (which Elijah Muhammad had SPECIFICALLY told his ministers to NOT speak on), he was sat down as a minister for 90 days (just as any person who disobeyed Elijah Muhammad would have been). When you didn't follow orders, you got sat down. That was for any member in the Nation of Islam. Malcolm wasn't special.

Instead of him taking his 90 days on the chin (you mess up, take the consequences that come with it), he decided to leave to "start his own movement" which was a failure by the way.

Malcolm gets shine today... but back in those days, nobody was paying him attention once he broke away from the Nation.

I could show you articles to prove that. For instance, there was one time when Elijah Muhammad was having an event in NYC, and Malcolm decided to hold one on the same day to try to compete with him.

Everybody showed up at Elijah Muhammad's event and hardly nobody showed up to Malcolm's event. It was such a bad turnout that the newspapers of that time were going in on Malcolm for it.

Malcolm got angry and started lashing out and saying made-up things about Elijah Muhammad because he was angry.

Which, that in itself, showed what kind of man he was on the inside. Just because you mad, you go out and lie on a man who YOU said saved your life? Nobody else said it. YOU said it. And you turn on him?

Plenty of people left the Nation over the years, and they were free to do so. But to come back and turn on the Nation and try to destroy it and lie on Elijah Muhammad just because you were mad?

nah, bro, Malcolm was lowdown. He was lowdown from the beginning and when he left the Nation, he went back to his same mindset that he had before. He had no sense of loyalty. To go running to white people trying to tear Elijah Muhammad down was the epitome of hypocrisy.

Reminds me of a lyric from Jay Z "Dig a Hole"

I fukks with you as a poster and our views align more than not but we will have to agree to disagree on this one