Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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Almost feel bad for Mike P. Trez is going to have a round and a half of good written material, some fire freestyles/rebuttals & a few callouts.

And that's all a lot of fans are going to care about. Mike P doesn't have that "it".
 

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Are you conceding that wins and losses don't really matter as much as entertainment value nowadays? I can't argue much if you are. I do have an issue with "11-0 with wins over Lux & Solomon is not an accomplishment" though. It is an accomplishment. It just doesn't make me super excited about seeing Mook again though.
Hol up, Wins and Losses definitely mean something.
I've even been constantly advocating Wins and Losses around these parts with public polls.

With that being said.
A win matters, but a loss with a great performance > a terrible win.
That's why I respect a part of Surfs resume.
The nikka lost to DNA, Ill, Big T out the gate.
But he faced them in their prime and still had great performances while losing

Surf's performance in his L against Big T >>> Mook's performance in his W against Lux

See where I'm getting at?

A W doesn't mean that much to me if you were WACK doin it.
 

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Talking that same old back in the day shiit :snooze:



This will be a very interesting discussion, as long as Flip doesn't let Rex talk circles around him.

Interesting to see Queenzflip of all people, speaking on behalf of the fans. It just shows that criticism has to come from someone you really respect. It doesn't matter how much more the other bloggers know about battle rap. Rex respects Flip, not them.

I hope they touch on where his relationship stands with Clips & Goodz. It can't be what it was. Rex got his azz whupped by Clips, but Clips hasn't been a shell of himself ever since the thing about his father snitching became a hot topic.
And Goodz seems to play both sides of the fence, Math was the first one to really point it out.
 

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Almost feel bad for Mike P. Trez is going to have a round and a half of good written material, some fire freestyles/rebuttals & a few callouts.

And that's all a lot of fans are going to care about. Mike P doesn't have that "it".

Except Trez doesn't have it either.
 

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Hol up, Wins and Losses definitely mean something.
I've even been constantly advocating Wins and Losses around these parts with public polls.

With that being said.
A win matters, but a loss with a great performance > a terrible win.
That's why I respect a part of Surfs resume.
The nikka lost to DNA, Ill, Big T out the gate.
But he faced them in their prime and still had great performances while losing

Surf's performance in his L against Big T >>> Mook's performance in his W against Lux

See where I'm getting at?

A W doesn't mean that much to me if you were WACK doin it.

LMAO.... you KNOW the truth, but you don't feel right saying it. You can't say Mook is "WACK". The reality is, what he is doing doesn't excite you at all.

Win or loss, most Tsu Surf battles are more exciting than

Mook's clear wins over Lux and Solomon
AND
Serius Jones clear wins over Pat Stay and Arsonal

Serius was 4-0 this year, with clear wins over Pat Stay AND Arsonal and @theflyest thinks that he belong on a stock drop list.

Just shows where this battling thing is going. Something dramatic will have to happen for wins and losses to matter again.
 

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Except Trez doesn't have it either.

Yeah he does. We just saw him lose to a PG in a small room, and people are either dismissing it, or calling it debatable. That battle vs Ryda will be remembered as "the one where Trez did 3 back to back rebuttals".
 

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LMAO.... you KNOW the truth, but you don't feel right saying it. You can't say Mook is "WACK". The reality is, what he is doing doesn't excite you at all.

Win or loss, most Tsu Surf battles are more exciting than

Mook's clear wins over Lux and Solomon
AND
Serius Jones clear wins over Pat Stay and Arsonal

Serius was 4-0 this year, with clear wins over Pat Stay AND Arsonal and @theflyest thinks that he belong on a stock drop list.

Just shows where this battling thing is going. Something dramatic will have to happen for wins and losses to matter again.
nikkas were litteraly leaving the building during Mook vs Iron Solomon breh, this is documented. That's not just me sayin this right now.

Mook was incredible vs Young Hot but let's not act like he wasn't WACK against Lux.
We not gon act like son ain't spit "You more hypocritical than a dying hippopotamus" in that battle.
We not doin that breh. He was wack if we gon hold him to that standard of Rex vs Ill, Verb vs Hitman, Con vs Surf, Mook vs Young Hot, that's just reality.
:jbhmm:How many times have you nikkas watched Mook vs Iron Solomon.
:ufdup:And name the amount of naps it took you to finish it while you're at it.

Now tell me how many times you watched Lux vs Hollow, Lux vs Clips.

Facts is Mook is not a great breh.
He's mt Rushmore ny default cause sat out not cause of his battles.
That's a fact.
We can go and watch Hollow and Lux' battles and be like yeah.. nikkas ain't on they level..
When Mook battles, nikkas are just wacker than him when they battle.
Just like how nikkas get wack when they battle Clips
I'm I lyin my nikka?

Surf choked 4 battles in a row, we not gon pretend like we ain't see that happen cause he had 2 fire rounds vs Top either.

Just like I bigged Surf up for standing against DNA, Ill and Big T in their prime.
I'm just as fast to call him out for choking 4 battles straight.
It doesn't matter if he entertaining, the nikka choked 4 battles straight.
You can't claim God and choke like that, we not doin that.

Serius Jones hasn't clearly lost since he came back.
He wasn't exciting either, that's why his stock ain't moving. It's not rocketscience.

Again, Wins and Losses matter to me first and foremost.
But it's your performance while doin that determines if your stock falls or rises. Surf's career is the testiment to that
 

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Yeah he does. We just saw him lose to a PG in a small room, and people are either dismissing it, or calling it debatable. That battle vs Ryda will be remembered as "the one where Trez did 3 back to back rebuttals".

That's not what the it factor is :francis:
 
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