that's hot to you?
"If I ain't beat X-Factor and Aye Verb, why they battle each other on the undercard?"
X-Factor could've won if he came with energy. He didn't. That's not the fault of the crowd, that's the fault of X-Factor. Aye Verb came in weak and that's why he lost. Clipse beat him, crowd or no crowd. This was actually close even tho the crowd didn't give him a chance.
No...now we know what it is. You not liking Clipse because he gets hometown advantage like every other battler. How you gonna compare this to X-Factor and Verb when 1 spit weak shyt for a round and a half, and the other was just spitting like he was resigned to taking that L. If you gonna speak, speak for what it is.
Why u acting like Clipse is the only NY rapper tho?
Being from NY don't mean shyt...nobody from NY needs to overhype Clipse solely on that 1 merit. He's got bars point blank
you totally expose yourself with your flip flop standards the minute charlie clips traveled to chicago.
where was all this "take points away for crowd" talk when you were handing the win to clips over verb and x factor, even when you were handing the win to tech 9 over miles? you went on long rants on how its other things to battle rap than bars and how performance and how you effect the crowd matter did you not? hell didnt most of these dudes who crying bias crowd in chicago say just that when it was the other way around? i dont have to pull up the post do i?
but now flip side, clips looks horrible in chicago and its all "he had better bars, and big t had a bias crowd"?
once again, thats why i say i know what time it is. if clips aint from ny he midwest miles status and everybody would be saying he lost to big t.
my position and standards been the same. i will never hand a guy a win solely on just the crowd loving them more. thats why i dissected and gave other points for other things.
1. big t did what charlie clips called him out for not being able to do. he won the crowd. that cant be okay and a scored point when its clips or tech 9 but then people want to take points away when its big t. i have said forever that crowd and performance is highly connected to the crowd you are in. thing is big t did enough to win that crowd. and clips was not looked at crazy for 3 rounds like verb, x factor and miles were in ny. when clips said something hot, he got love, when he didnt they didnt respond. cant scapegoat the crowd here, dude got love after he clearly choked and spent a sec getting back on track.
2.big t had the perfect blend of hot bars, performance and personal attack. you know the same things yall give just about every rapper a win for but for whatever reason now since its clips people want to ignore that big t kicked his ass in the personal attack area, and while people are fronting like clips was just about bars, no clips tried to personally attack but it was weak, and it wasnt funny. so points from clips on that one.
3.most importantly, from a creative perspective, clips is judged on another standard as well as big t. since they supposed to be the top dudes. i dont get mad if a proven ground dude comes with schemes somebody else already did but just flip it a bit, but thats all clips did the whole battle. all his hottest bars were remakes of what was already said by someone else very recently. if lux or mook gets back on stage and come with some schemes chilla jones or young ill done already flipped, that would be very disappointing. charlie wasnt a underdog, he dont get props just for going to another city and remembering his bars. he was supposed to prove he was a top tier dude who was supposed to destroy a dude in they own city, ya know the same way big t did dna, verb did math, ill did rich dollarz, etc etc. thats the mark of a champion, hell sco and ored went to chicago and did they thing too, im not giving them top tier status cause of that. nobody gives the midwest dudes props for that ever.
i have talked about this to nausea with ny dudes, they dont want to see my point and i dont understand theirs. so in the end my opinion is my opinion, yours is yours. ny is riding for clips, rest of the country mostly is riding with big t. it is what it is.
at the mass debates (slow it down u need subtitles or something) his battles get on the net
