Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

[ReasonableMatic]

So Rex vs Jai is going down on Udubb.

Jai 3-0

He did that nikka Dougy FILTHY
son is underrated.

 

[JuvenileHell]

Jai 3-0

He did that nikka Dougy FILTHY
son is underrated.

I agree Jai will 3-0 Rex. Rex will still win though

 

[theflyest]

I'm not cool with any of them sayin it.

Cortez included. It's funny how some black folks say Hispanics can say it because they "one of us" yet we've seen many occasions where we are the only ones fighting our fight.. They not one of us clearly. When shyt hits the fan they stay on their side so none of them should be sayin it. Alot of Hispanics are racist as fukk.


I called Diz out on sayin nikka like 10 years ago and the message board jumpoff.tv During the WRC's. All Diz could say to me was "wooooow" ...and who came to Diz defense? fukkin Drect

I don't understand these nikkas

A lot of these guys like Cortez and T Money Bags are too dumb to realize that it's better for their career if they didn't say it. They seem too oblivious to the fact that nyggas in completely different states aren't feeling it.

I get that NY is a completely different culture, but from a business standpoint, they shouldnt even use it. They just turn off fans.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

I think you missed the point/example @Momentum was trying to make

I understood exactly the point he was trying to make

But it's moot, due to the historical context.

They don't use it for a term of disrespect. And it's apart of their common vernacular. Spic is not used commonly by us. Like at all, and if we do use it, it will likely be in a disrespectful manner. Being disrespected by the word nikka is not exclusive to blacks in america, it's more common that it was used to disrespect us, but not exclusive to just us.

So to get all crazy with if your not black don't use it, when other nationalities have been disrespected with the same word, and the fact when they use it, it's not to be disrespectful means one has taken the word out of its historical context and attempted to create a new definition with it.

So the example he gave was poor due to the fact he was comparing 1 word (spic) that black folks will never use unless it's for disrespect vs a word (nikka) that is apart of those people common vernacular , is not used disrespectfully and historically has been used to disrespect afro mexicans, afro Cubans afro Puerto Ricans etc just like it was used to disrespect us. That's just putting it in historical context and answering the question why it's no offense when a Puerto Rican uses it , vs a damn arab like dizaster, and the context in which dizaster used it.

 

[Big Jo]

Hollow and math just really aren't as cool as we assume.

Remember when Math stepped to the nikka who beat up Hollows sister?

Supposedly Math pulled the ox on dude

I like Hollow and dude is mad talented but this is some ho sh1t.

He has said in interviews he wont battle Dizaster until he settles sh1t with Math and then goes and battles Dizaster (potentially twice mind you)

If Hollow wants that check and thinks it's a necessary evil then fine. But don't go walking around saying it's Loyalty Over Money and then go do the opposite. Dude is lookin funny in the light tbh.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I understood exactly the point he was trying to make

But it's moot, due to the historical context.

They don't use it for a term of disrespect. And it's apart of their common vernacular. Spic is not used commonly by us. Like at all, and if we do use it, it will likely be in a disrespectful manner. Being disrespected by the word nikka is not exclusive to blacks in america, it's more common that it was used to disrespect us, but not exclusive to just us.

So to get all crazy with if your not black don't use it, when other nationalities have been disrespected with the same word, and the fact when they use it, it's not to be disrespectful means one has taken the word out of its historical context and attempted to create a new definition with it.

So the example he gave was poor due to the fact he was comparing 1 word (spic) that black folks will never use unless it's for disrespect vs a word (nikka) that is apart of those people common vernacular , is not used disrespectfully and historically has been used to disrespect afro mexicans, afro Cubans afro Puerto Ricans etc just like it was used to disrespect us. That's just putting it in historical context and answering the question why it's no offense when a Puerto Rican uses it , vs a damn arab like dizaster, and the context in which dizaster used it.

Bro cmon now, you're sharper than this. For example what if Hispanics/Latinos called each other Spiccaz, like it was their slang word for Spic. Would you as a black person feel comfortable sayin Spicca

 

[theflyest]

So Rex vs Jai is going down on Udubb.

I like this battle. No video game references or anything. They gonna spit that street shyt.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

I understood exactly the point he was trying to make

But it's moot, due to the historical context.

They don't use it for a term of disrespect. And it's apart of their common vernacular. Spic is not used commonly by us. Like at all, and if we do use it, it will likely be in a disrespectful manner. Being disrespected by the word nikka is not exclusive to blacks in america, it's more common that it was used to disrespect us, but not exclusive to just us.

So to get all crazy with if your not black don't use it, when other nationalities have been disrespected with the same word, and the fact when they use it, it's not to be disrespectful means one has taken the word out of its historical context and attempted to create a new definition with it.

So the example he gave was poor due to the fact he was comparing 1 word (spic) that black folks will never use unless it's for disrespect vs a word (nikka) that is apart of those people common vernacular , is not used disrespectfully and historically has been used to disrespect afro mexicans, afro Cubans afro Puerto Ricans etc just like it was used to disrespect us. That's just putting it in historical context and answering the question why it's no offense when a Puerto Rican uses it , vs a damn arab like dizaster, and the context in which dizaster used it.

I don't agree with everytime y'all sayin in this debate but this is all facts.

Historically the Black and Afro(Latino) community have been brothers and sisters.
Both been oppressed by the same white man

Hiphop was created by Blacks and Latino's as a result of us both being oppressed.
We have been close due to historic oppression.

There's a reason why artists like Big Pun NEVER got criticized for sayin nikka.

But let Eminem fukk around and say nikka and you'll see what happens.

The confusing comes from the internal separation that was caused trough slavery.
That's not to be confused by certain Latino's denial of their blackness due to slavery where the darker skin was treated worse than the lighter skinned counterpart, making some feel superior to their darker "brothers" under oppression.

The issue itself was created by their white oppressor.

You STILL see this globally to this day wether it's in the US where you'll see some afro-latino say. "I'm not black I'm Latino" (Which makes no cotdamn sense since their blackness comes from african ancestry)
All the way up to when I went to South Africa and saw black people say "I'm not black, I'm coloured" which makes no COTDAMN sense neither.
Because the mixing came from black Xhosa women being raped and birthing mixed children by white Slave Owners.

But to put that in context, they've literally only been freed from apartheid for 20years, just think about that. A lot of them don't see the error in their ways of thinking their oppressor taught them.
Lighter and darker nikkaS got separated by skintone when they were oppressed to control them.
Meaning, if you were lighter you were coloured. If you were dark you were black.
So the lighter felt superior to the darker skin tone causing internal conflict.
But since it's so recent some still don't see they are all the same nikkaS.
Light or Dark, they're still nikkaS (word to Jay Z)

So in that sense dark skin blacks also have been treated worse than their
lighter Black or Latino counterpart. But that all comes from slavery.

I've traveled all over the globe and lemme tell you the more you travel and know about slavery the more you'll be able to put this issue in context for those that aren't educated on the matter.

Blacks and Latino's are nikkaS.
A lot of these "light skin Brazilians" were nikkas (black) that mixed with white Portuguese oppressors due to rape in the colonization era.
That's why they speak Portuguese in Brazil
Why they speak Dutch in Suriname
Why they speak German in Namibia

I can go on and on.

On top of that, because of slavery, a lot of nikkas don't know where they are from.
Outside of the fact they are Black so it must be traced somewhere in Africa
So if you don't know anything about you ancestry before you were enslaved except for a small portion of your Latino roots I can understand why some will think that's just what they are. Even tho that's not accurate.

On top of that the whole gang war between Latino's and Blacks causes that confusin to people.
And makes that rift look bigger instead of looking at the history

It's no different than crip in crip violence if you think about it.

Anyway, with all that being said.

Dizaster needs to get touched for thinking shyt sweet for a Arab to say nikka

 

[Momentum]

I understood exactly the point he was trying to make

But it's moot, due to the historical context.

They don't use it for a term of disrespect. And it's apart of their common vernacular. Spic is not used commonly by us. Like at all, and if we do use it, it will likely be in a disrespectful manner. Being disrespected by the word nikka is not exclusive to blacks in america, it's more common that it was used to disrespect us, but not exclusive to just us.

So to get all crazy with if your not black don't use it, when other nationalities have been disrespected with the same word, and the fact when they use it, it's not to be disrespectful means one has taken the word out of its historical context and attempted to create a new definition with it.

So the example he gave was poor due to the fact he was comparing 1 word (spic) that black folks will never use unless it's for disrespect vs a word (nikka) that is apart of those people common vernacular , is not used disrespectfully and historically has been used to disrespect afro mexicans, afro Cubans afro Puerto Ricans etc just like it was used to disrespect us. That's just putting it in historical context and answering the question why it's no offense when a Puerto Rican uses it , vs a damn arab like dizaster, and the context in which dizaster used it.

IT IS DISRESPECTFUL THAT THEY USE THE WORD, IN ANY CONTEXT.

WHITE HISPANICS SHOULD NOT BE USING THE WORD AROUND ANY AFRICAN PEOPLE. PERIOD.

Is that clear?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Dre Dennis vs Kaboom





@Spud34

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Bro cmon now, you're sharper than this. For example what if Hispanics/Latinos called each other Spiccaz, like it was their slang word for Spic. Would you as a black person feel comfortable sayin Spicca

I'm very sharp, which is why I can't base a opinion on a hypothetical. The truth is, there is no word that Hispanics use that could be used disrespectfully towards Puerto Rican and mexicans that blacks just use commonly. If blacks said spic it would be in the context of disrespect. Just like when most white people use nikka it's in the context of disrespect.

In context, many Puerto Ricans and mexicans use the word nikka in their common vernacular just as black people do and it's not in the context of disrespect, it's used as freely as saying hello or good bye. The issue here is context. That's all. Believe me, I get where gall are coming from, but there is just a historical and modern difference when a white person says nikka vs when a Puerto Rican or Mexican uses it. It just is.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

IT IS DISRESPECTFUL THAT THEY USE THE WORD, IN ANY CONTEXT.

WHITE HISPANICS SHOULD NOT BE USING THE WORD AROUND ANY AFRICAN PEOPLE. PERIOD.

Is that clear?

I dont consider Cortez , or let's say fat Joe a white Hispanic. Clearly from the width of their noses, to the kinkyness in there hair texture, muscle mass, body structure etc, there lineage is from the side of africans who occupied those areas and needed uprisings revolts wars to free themselves just as we did. As a old buddy of mine who is Puerto Rican says when we talk, we all come from the same place, only thing that separates us is where the boat stopped.

 

[Momentum]

So a Spanish speaking Eurocac that happens to be from an island with blacks can say nikka with no issues now, got it.

 

[MJ Truth]

IT IS DISRESPECTFUL THAT THEY USE THE WORD, IN ANY CONTEXT.

WHITE HISPANICS SHOULD NOT BE USING THE WORD AROUND ANY AFRICAN PEOPLE. PERIOD.

Is that clear?

Not sure why that is such a difficult concept for people to understand.

 

[MicIsGod]

Y'all can't be black not understanding why Cortez and moneybags can say nikka lol