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Solomon is trash to me. But he was spitting his ass off in this battle.

After that Mook battle, I can't even think of his last bad performance. Iron been consistent. Only thing he may have done that's funny style was that line about Nikaya's fam directed at Arsonal. And clearly, the Illmac battle. But other than that, Iron been on his shyt lately.
 

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Battle rappers aren't smart. Downplaying the person you're about to battle is dumb, because if you beat them, then what did it matter if they're not any good?

If I was battling someone, I'd talk about how dope they are, and push it in the fans heads, so if I win, it looks like an amazing victory.

Both techniques have their downfall. If your opponent pays attention to you doing that, they can pick up on that shyt and get you in a battle. Gives them an advantage of an angle if they can pull it off and execute it well. Either way, no matter what psychological games you play...those bars and that performance better one up whoever you go up against.
 

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Both techniques have their downfall. If your opponent pays attention to you doing that, they can pick up on that shyt and get you in a battle. Gives them an advantage of an angle if they can pull it off and execute it well. Either way, no matter what psychological games you play...those bars and that performance better one up whoever you go up against.
I've never seen it work. Mike P has a 30 minute blog of saying Twork is the GOAT basically and he beat Twork pretty clear.

Twork was on every platform saying JC is the GOAT, and might've just 30'd him

The "You think I'm nice" retort or angle doesn't really hold much weight. It's good for a few bars but you can't even win a full round off that. But conversely, you can use the "he's super dope" as a way to manipulate a win to make it seem bigger prior to the battle. It's a psychological game, but that almost always works. Not saying it's gonna give you the win but it's a good way to make it matter more if you get the win.
 

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Battle rappers aren't smart. Downplaying the person you're about to battle is dumb, because if you beat them, then what did it matter if they're not any good?

If I was battling someone, I'd talk about how dope they are, and push it in the fans heads, so if I win, it looks like an amazing victory.
You see this phenomenon in boxing and MMA too. I think a lot of guys gotta downplay their opponents in order to solidify their own confidence though.
 

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I've never seen it work. Mike P has a 30 minute blog of saying Twork is the GOAT basically and he beat Twork pretty clear.

Twork was on every platform saying JC is the GOAT, and might've just 30'd him

The "You think I'm nice" retort or angle doesn't really hold much weight. It's good for a few bars but you can't even win a full round off that. But conversely, you can use the "he's super dope" as a way to manipulate a win to make it seem bigger prior to the battle. It's a psychological game, but that almost always works. Not saying it's gonna give you the win but it's a good way to make it matter more if you get the win.

I'm not disagreeing with you but, there is a loophole in every strategy unless you cover your bases right.

You don't think it doesn't work but like I said, its an angle. Doesn't mean it works right away. BUT if its executed right like any angle...you can take the win; possibly. It can gain some ground. That's all I was saying. And there's a million ways to flip that whole you think I'm nice angle like mentioning sparring, you took some lines of mine, and etc.
 
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Battle rappers aren't smart. Downplaying the person you're about to battle is dumb, because if you beat them, then what did it matter if they're not any good?

If I was battling someone, I'd talk about how dope they are, and push it in the fans heads, so if I win, it looks like an amazing victory.

Nah I ain't biggin' up ma opponent like that....ma goal from the 1st round to the last round is kicking yo ass... You know how boring a face off is if only one person tryna sell the fight lol. Let alone sell yall matchup to the public individually. Surf/Shine, Mike P vs Yk, Red/Hitman, Hell Brizz/Prep even tho it never materialized to a battle lol. The back n forth trash talk is needed. Give me a reason to drop $35-$60 on the ppv lol.
 

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Nah I ain't biggin' up ma opponent like that....ma goal from the 1st round to the last round is kicking yo ass... You know how boring a face off is if only one person tryna sell the fight lol. Let alone sell yall matchup to the public individually. Surf/Shine, Mike P vs Yk, Red/Hitman, Hell Brizz/Prep even tho it never materialized to a battle lol. The back n forth trash talk is needed. Give me a reason to drop $35-$60 on the ppv lol.
I get that part of the advertising but there’s ways to still big up your opponent without discrediting him. You’re not gonna get an extra sells saying “This nikka is trash” either imo. I think there’s a balance. I’m not saying you have to praise him to the high heavens but downplaying them doesn’t really help your cause when you’re trying to big up your resume. If you beat all trash nikkas then how are you good?
 

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I get that part of the advertising but there’s ways to still big up your opponent without discrediting him. You’re not gonna get an extra sells saying “This nikka is trash” either imo. I think there’s a balance. I’m not saying you have to praise him to the high heavens but downplaying them doesn’t really help your cause when you’re trying to big up your resume. If you beat all trash nikkas then how are you good?
Exactly. You can both talk about the greatness of your opponent and still announce yourself as the best. It’s what the top tiers (for the most part) do. Lux, Mook, Hollow, etc. will big their opponents up because they’re only battling you because they think you’re nice in the first place. But then again those guys are completely confident in themselves so there’s no need to downplay their opponents like that.
 

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Exactly. You can both talk about the greatness of your opponent and still announce yourself as the best. It’s what the top tiers (for the most part) do. Lux, Mook, Hollow, etc. will big their opponents up because they’re only battling you because they think you’re nice in the first place. But then again those guys are completely confident in themselves so there’s no need to downplay their opponents like that.
Exactly. All the real top tiers do it. They never really downplay their opponent. They'll say they'll kill them, but they always put some respect on their names.
 

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I get that part of the advertising but there’s ways to still big up your opponent without discrediting him. You’re not gonna get an extra sells saying “This nikka is trash” either imo. I think there’s a balance. I’m not saying you have to praise him to the high heavens but downplaying them doesn’t really help your cause when you’re trying to big up your resume. If you beat all trash nikkas then how are you good?

Someone needs to tell Bigg K this. When he clowns in his promos its hilarious, but he overdoes it at times, especially during the battle.
 

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Someone needs to tell Bigg K this. When he clowns in his promos its hilarious, but he overdoes it at times, especially during the battle.

He is good at the pre-game shyt talking. But in a battle, he'll go overboard with that and sometimes lose his composure. Part of the reason I gave him a few losses.
 

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Exactly. All the real top tiers do it. They never really downplay their opponent. They'll say they'll kill them, but they always put some respect on their names.

Even Verb when he's running his mouth about his opponent will say "Oh he is cold no doubt about it, but I am a king!" Top tiers wouldn't battle someone if they thought they were trash because it does nothing for them. Notice all of the people that Surf talks down to are battlers he'll never battle because he thinks that little of them.
 
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