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[ChocolateGiddyUp]

There was no drug testing done for the Matthysse Peterson fight

 

[Newzz]

It actually wasnt... If you look back at 24/7 dude was already planting the see saying it was a ww fight. They knew way of time he wasnt coming in at 144.

JMM last fight before fighting Floyd was at 135 lbs against Juan Diaz. His very next fight was against Floyd Mayweather which was negoatiated at a catchweight of 144 lbs.


How are you gonna sit here and type "it actually wasnt" when that's what the weight limit was?:really:


Is there some new 144 lb division that the rest of us have yet to learn about?

Mayweather-Marquez set for Sept. 19
Updated: June 26, 2009, 5:27 PM ET
Associated Press

Floyd Mayweather's return to boxing is back on.

The flamboyant former pound-for-pound king, who was scheduled to fight Juan Manuel Marquez next month at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, issued a statement Friday that said he's been cleared by doctors and the fight has been rescheduled for Sept. 19.

Mayweather, who is coming out of a brief retirement, damaged cartilage in his ribs during training two weeks ago. The two fighters were committed to rescheduling the fight, even though more lucrative opponents like Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao became available for both of them.

"I am relieved to be cleared to fight, as I was already looking forward to getting back in the ring," Mayweather said. "Trust me, September 19 is a great weekend for boxing, and all of my fans -- of which there are many Mexicans too -- can certainly hold on to their hats and sombreros when I get back into the ring."

Ticket sales reportedly had been slow for the pay-per-view fight, but they may get a significant boost because of the new date. Mexican Independence Day is Sept. 16, and the bout will follow on Saturday -- a weekend that had long belonged to Oscar De La Hoya, whose Golden Boy Promotions handles Marquez.

De La Hoya announced his retirement from boxing earlier this year.

"I am happy that Mayweather has been cleared to fight and we can get down to business," Marquez said. "This weekend is not just an important weekend for boxing, but even more so for all of the Mexican and Mexican-American people I will be fighting for.

"[They] will have a great reason to celebrate my win over Mayweather, which will be for all of the people and for the entire country of Mexico that night."

Mayweather, the former five-division champ, hasn't fought since knocking out Ricky Hatton in December 2007, when he was still reveling in his breakthrough victory over De La Hoya. His unexpected retirement last year came in a statement issued by his publicist, just as he was gaining mainstream attention with appearances on "Dancing with the Stars" and at WrestleMania.

His aura seemed to have dimmed over the past year, though, and there have been reports that Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs) has been having financial hardships. On top of that, Pacquiao has risen to become boxing's best all-around fighter.

That alone may have been enough to lure "Money" back into the ring.

His handlers began fielding offers for fights several months ago -- few believed that Mayweather would stay retired -- and he eventually settled on Marquez, who insiders rank highly on the pound-for-pound list but who is unknown by most mainstream sports fans.

Marquez (50-4-1, 37 KOs), who has fought to a draw and close split-decision loss against Pacquiao, is coming off riveting knockouts of Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz, which earned him the vacant WBO lightweight title in February.

He'll be moving up to fight Mayweather at a catch weight of about 143 pounds, eight more than Marquez has ever fought and the lightest Mayweather has been since 2005.

"I am sure of victory and si se puede," Marquez said, "yes we can and yes we will."

It wasnt a catchweight though

 

[Newzz]

the irony in this fukking post

nikka stan the nikka who stans the nikka he hate.

When I did I ever say I hate Mayweather?



So, because I say he cant FORCE Alvarez into a fight at 147 because of all his talk about Pac and catchweights mean I hate Floyd now?



You must be a Floyd stan to say something like that.....especially when I said in that post that Floyd is gonna win anyways and Ive said on this board multiple times that Floyd is the best boxer on the planet and will retire undefeated.



But keep up your Mayweather Task Force duties breh:props:

 

[Newzz]

it is..give it some time Al..broner will eventually copy floyd's "matchmaking" strategy then we'll see what @Newzz says about him

It's already "All About The Bread" with Adrien "About Billions" Broner and #TheBandCamp



Dont ever forget that Pat.............

 

[Newzz]

true but a catchweight to favor Marquez. not Floyd. when he said that, he was meaning catchweights in his favor meaning the belted fighter melting down but still putting his title on the line. like Oscar did with Bernard. Manny did with Margs, and SRL started in his fight vs LaLonde.

Floyd agreed to do 144 and he was 146 which JMM got an extra $600k. so basically, concessions were made for JMM. Floyd still was picking on a smaller fighter...but the point I want to make is about the catchweight for a title at higher weight.

I agree with you.....I was actually giving a "real" Skip Bayless half truth statement to troll you like he does Stephen A Smith lol


Yes, he did fight a catchweight, but it was for JMM's benefit....not his.

 

[surv2syn]

Sugar Ray Leonard vs Oscar De La Hoya in a SKIP-OFF! - YouTube

mark 8:36

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvhLhX-jXQA[/ame]

 

[Newzz]

its not a duck and its not the same thing. Floyd fought twice for 154 lb title. both times his opponent weighed in at 154. Pac fought once. His opponent weighed in at 150. thats the difference.

Pac wanted a title in that division but didnt want his opponent to scale in at the limit. Margs couldve probably made 147 without issue, but Pac wanted the belt in another division. Its that simple.

The best thing Floyd can do is to allow Canelo to come in at 154 like he did with Cotto, then give that bytch a rehydration clause so people can hop off his dikk. thats fair. charge his ass for ever pound he goes over 160. Floyd aint say he wanted to fight a MW if thats the case he'd been fought Serge.

Hit this :putamadre: hard with penalties so he will think twice about coming in as a LHW by fight time. If he comes in at 154, no excuses...but lets not act like people wont say he was too green or overhyped when he gets that work!

NOPE. Floyd cant have no clauses, no nothing.



He let Cotto and DLH come in at whatever they wanted too.....why cant Alvarez do the same as long as he makes the mandatory 154 lbs weight limit like they had to?



Remember, Floyd wants his opponents to be comfortable.



And Floyd will beat Canelo if they fight this year. I dont believe Canelo is overhyped and when/if Floyd beats him....I think Floyd should be given ALL the credit in the world



















But only if no clauses/weight draining in the contract

 

[Newzz]

He has already. nikka is fighting paulie..

I personally think Al Haymon runs shyt. He tells floyd who to fight(like broner).

Much as I shyt on Bob I will tell you this.under TR he fought good tuff competition.

So, it's a problem that Adrien Broner is moving up 2 weight classes to fight the Champion for his belt?:really:


Who was About Billions gonna fight breh?

At 135....Ricky Burns was running scared and was "supposed" to be fighting Miguel Vazquez (which made him unavailable as well)

At 140...Danny Garcia, Zab Judah, Lucas Matthysse, Lamont Peterson, and Amir Khan were all locked up in fights

At 147...Devon Alexander was supposed to be fighting Kell Brook, and Robert Guerrero was already rumored to be fighting Money Mayweather.



So, YOU tell us who was available for him to fight with a bigger name, ranked higher in the division, and not with Top Rank other than Paulie Malignaggi that was available to fight?





I'll be brushing my hair while waiting on your answer

 

[Newzz]

nikkas gonna act like like a year ago people wasnt saying he was ducking Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Cotto the list goes on and on really

Who said this?



I have NEVER heard someone say that Floyd was ducking ANY of them fighters.....except Cotto and that was back before Floyd retired in 2007.


at Floyd ducking Robert Guerrero and Victor Ortiz.

Neither of them were mentioned as a Floyd opponent until they beat the gatekeeper Berto


Ortiz was still known for quitting against Maidana and hadn't gotten over that yet before beating Berto and Guerrero was just randomly calling out Broner, Floyd, and Pacquiao just to see what stuck

 

[MIAlien]

So, it's a problem that Adrien Broner is moving up 2 weight classes to fight the Champion for his belt?:really:


Who was About Billions gonna fight breh?

At 135....Ricky Burns was running scared and was "supposed" to be fighting Miguel Vazquez (which made him unavailable as well)

At 140...Danny Garcia, Zab Judah, Lucas Matthysse, Lamont Peterson, and Amir Khan were all locked up in fights

At 147...Devon Alexander was supposed to be fighting Kell Brook, and Robert Guerrero was already rumored to be fighting Money Mayweather.



So, YOU tell us who was available for him to fight with a bigger name, ranked higher in the division, and not with Top Rank other than Paulie Malignaggi that was available to fight?





I'll be brushing my hair while waiting on your answer

Fighting Paulie for a belt at 147 was the best move for Broner. The interesting move will be the one after he beats Paulie up. Does he take the winner of Josesito/Maidana? Alexander? Kell Brook? After this easy fight and first big payday, he's gotta take a step up in competition.

 

[Newzz]

Super 6



Ordinary 6 was more like it, I like Ward but he's overhyped and hiding in a week division refusing to move up or down

Damn breh....you dont like Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, or Adrien Broner.



my g? What boxers besides Floyd do you like to see box?

 

[Newzz]

Fighting Paulie for a belt at 147 was the best move for Broner. The interesting move will be the one after he beats Paulie up. Does he take the winner of Josesito/Maidana? Alexander? Kell Brook? After this easy fight and first big payday, he's gotta take a step up in competition.

I agree.....but I think he's gonna go back down to 140 honestly and probably fight someone like Zab Judah next.

 

[Newzz]

Boxing is already fukked up! And Floyd isnt the one who did it. Yall act like Floyd is the first. No. SRL from my recollection is the first guy to employ all of these marketing maneuvers and selective opponents.

 

[tnprince1005]

Floyd Mayweather Sr. says Canelo vs. Floyd must take place at 147 [VIDEO] - Boxing Forum

 

[Newzz]

Floyd Mayweather Sr. says Canelo vs. Floyd must take place at 147 [VIDEO] - Boxing Forum

Look at the footwork......AFLAC!