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[surv2syn]

Yea it is moot, and I was actually thinking about the WBA not WBC.. and how they had to create "Super" versions of his belts because for whatever reason he ignores mandatories when its convenient to

wait a min breh....they didnt create those titles for Floyd or any other fighter specifically. they did that to pimp fees. remember, Floyd didnt like the WBA and vacated it or refused to fight for it at one time. likewise with IBF.

also....at the summit last week where all of the sanctioning bodies met....the WBO wanted all super titles, interim belts, and diamond/silver championships admonished and the IBF/WBA/WBC aint tryin to hear it.

 

[surv2syn]

Size plays as an equal role if not more because like you said, Crawford turned Southpawnand was getting tagged, but really wasn't getting hurt and I believe size was a factor

it was a factor, but there were many more factors like stamina, front running style, not being able to out box Crawford or make adjustments, etc....but all I hear here is about how much of a midget or FW Gamboa is when many probably didnt think Crawford was gonna win, much less stop him. this fight was much more than weight. Crawford aint even a physical fighter like that, nor is he a huge puncher. but nikkas envision it how they want.

 

[Newzz]

"never been rocked" is subjective as hell. its a difference with Rees punching than Gamboa. Rees aint shyt to Gamboa.

saying I am picking/betting on a guy against others isnt saying he will run through a division. damn breh. I said he would be a problem for those guys. meaning none of them are gonna just walk in and expect an easy victory. I said he would beat Broner last year breh. you know this.

if Gamboa is only good for 4 rounds then why are you so enamored with what he did??? thats like saying Floyd victory over Zab wasnt shyt. but you probably think that too because you hate Floyd...so there's that.

I dont hate Floyd though


Floyd is the GOAT fighter of this generation and one of the most skilled fighters I've EVER seen.......especially his time as a Junior Lightweight to Junior Welterweight. I've never seen somebody combine great offense with great defense at the same time and make it seem so effortless


I do hate his personality though and I hate dudes who hit women, so if THAT makes me a Floyd hater, so be it


Floyd should've rematched Zab though, and he should've been disqualified when Roger stepped foot into the ring

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Size plays as an equal role if not more because like you said, Crawford turned Southpawnand was getting tagged, but really wasn't getting hurt and I believe size was a factor

And it's not like Gamboa ain't fight southpaws before. His skills let him down against Crawford, but if both were closer in size Gamboa's power would have prolly been more effective.

Still a solid lil quality win for Crawford, but nikkas is acting like he put on some boxing clinic where it's only his skills that won the fight. Nah, they were a factor, just not the only one.

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz
this is where I will ultimately prove you wrong because you are always talking about size. its gonna take more than someone with size advantage to beat Crawford. you act like he is a crude boxer. what you missed was when he turned southpaw....although Gamboa landed some good shot....he couldnt stop Crawfords offense or boxing. he basically got out boxed and beat up when Crawford switched on him. dont put so much stake in how big someone is. this is boxing. if you dont have skills, you aint gonna win.

What happens when the person is the same size as you and just as skillful though?


That's what Im pointing to breh and that's why I always said Crawford vs Broner would be a great matchup, because they are both good boxers and similar sizes (Broner is 5'7, Crawford is 5'8. Broner has a 70" reach, Crawford has a 70'' reach. Broner has fought at WW while Crawford rehydrates up to around that amount)


The other top boxers at 140 are that size and BIGGER (Ruslan Provodnikov, Danny Garcia, and Lucas Matthysse), so I'd like to see what Crawford does facing someone he doesnt have a huge size advantage on and it's almost just straight skill vs skill

 

[Mook]

What happens when the person is the same size as you and just as skillful though?


That's what Im pointing to breh and that's why I always said Crawford vs Broner would be a great matchup, because they are both good boxers and similar sizes (Broner is 5'7, Crawford is 5'8. Broner has a 70" reach, Crawford has a 70'' reach. Broner has fought at WW while Crawford rehydrates up to around that amount)


The other top boxers at 140 are that size and BIGGER (Ruslan Provodnikov, Danny Garcia, and Lucas Matthysse), so I'd like to see what Crawford does facing someone he doesnt have a huge size advantage on and it's almost just straight skill vs skill

I dont hate Floyd though


Floyd is the GOAT fighter of this generation and one of the most skilled fighters I've EVER seen.......especially his time as a Junior Lightweight to Junior Welterweight. I've never seen somebody combine great offense with great defense at the same time and make it seem so effortless


I do hate his personality though and I hate dudes who hit women, so if THAT makes me a Floyd hater, so be it


Floyd should've rematched Zab though, and he should've been disqualified when Roger stepped foot into the ring

DQ a guy who did nothing?

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

 

[Newzz]

it was a factor, but there were many more factors like stamina, front running style, not being able to out box Crawford or make adjustments, etc....but all I hear here is about how much of a midget or FW Gamboa is when many probably didnt think Crawford was gonna win, much less stop him. this fight was much more than weight. Crawford aint even a physical fighter like that, nor is he a huge puncher. but nikkas envision it how they want.

Breh.........Terence Crawford said it himself


Why are you even arguing it, when your fighter said:

Crawford: I Warned Gamboa; He's a 126/130-Pounder
Posted by: Edward Chaykovsky on 6/29/2014 .

by Edward Chaykovsky
WBO lightweight champion Terence Crawford (24-0, 17KOs) warned Olympic gold medal winner Yuriorkis Gamboa (23-1, 16KOs) that he made a big mistake in accepting their fight. Before a crowd of nearly 11,000 fans at the CenturyLink Center in Omaha, Crawford dropped Gamboa four times before the fight was waved off.

Even before the fight took place, Crawford told media members that he felt the much shorter Gamboa was undersized and didn't have the firepower to compete with the best fighters, who were much bigger, at 135-pounds. He feels Gamboa should really be competing at 126 or 130-pounds.

"I commend Gamboa for taking the fight, but I felt that it was my time, that I was destined to win this fight. I told Gamboa 'you shouldn't have took this fight,' Crawford said.

"That's how he fights. He's shown nothing else but coming out and jumping on his opponents. We were prepared for everything he brings. Everybody knows Gamboa gets dropped in fights, everybody knows he always gets back up and wins. We were prepared for whatever came to the table. Like I told everybody before the fight happened, I felt Gamboa was a 126, 130-pounder. I didn't believe he was a real, legitimate 135-pounder."

http://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-i-warned-gamboa-hes-126-130-pounder--79389

So, Crawford himself thinks he was fighting a blown up featherweight, but we're supposed to just dismiss it?



That's exactly what it was. Yes, Crawford got a good victory, but it is what it is. Let's not act like Gamboa was a legitimate 135lber

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Even if Gamboa was a legit 135lber he still fought somebody that was naturally bigger.

 

[Newzz]

DQ a guy who did nothing?

That's the rule....

However, there's an outside chance that the Pretty Boy will lose his IBF welterweight belt because, although time had been called after he was hit low blow, Uncle Roger did enter the ring before the 3:00 minutes of round 10 had expired. That is grounds for disqualification and, indeed, fighters like Marco Antonio Barrera (v Junior Jones in 1996) have lost big fights in the past in exactly this type of scenario. That fight, which went into the record books as Barrera's first ever loss, was in Tampa but heavyweight Peter McNeeley's 'premature evacuation' v Mike Tyson in August 1996 was in Nevada and the outgunned Irishman was thrown out of the mismatch the instant his trainer, Vinnie Vecchione, stepped through the ropes.

There is a groundswell of opinion that Mayweather's unbeaten record should have gone last weekend.

IBF President Marian Muhammad will be present at today's hearing and is understood to vehemently believes Mayweather should have been disqualified, and therefore Judah should remain the IBF belt warmer. Fair enough, but it was also the IBF who also allowed Judah to remain 'champion' despite Carlos Baldomir one-sided beating of the New Yorker in January. It strikes one as unfair that Judah gets his behind kicked twice in three months but remains champion.

Mayweather is unlikely to be retroactively disqualified, though. Not in Nevada, the most likely site of the looming mega-money Mayweather showdowns with Oscar De La Hoya or Ricky Hattton, not at a time where Nevada's once glowing reputation for being the best regulatory body in the US is on the wane and especially not as they have a perfect excuse not to make big waves.

http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxin.../roger-mayweather-suspended-floyd-keeps-title

#SuperJudah

 

[Newzz]

Even if Gamboa was a legit 135lber he still fought somebody that was naturally bigger.

Skill only takes you so far once you keep increasing in weight.


Floyd Mayweather aint EVER stepping foot in the ring with GGG, because that's almost a death sentence......even though he's willing to fight Cotto (another "middleweight") for the Middleweight Championship


I wonder why?

 

[FastEddie215]

brehs, any of the have a link to the gamboa vs Crawford fight? I missed it and I've been hearing how good it was. cant find the full fight anywhere

 

[Black_Jesus]

Breh.........Terence Crawford said it himself


Why are you even arguing it, when your fighter said:

So, Crawford himself thinks he was fighting a blown up featherweight, but we're supposed to just dismiss it?



That's exactly what it was. Yes, Crawford got a good victory, but it is what it is. Let's not act like Gamboa was a legitimate 135lber

Crawford dont have to say shyt... The scales speak for themselves.. Gamboa was in the ring with a junior middleweight and nikkas in here acting like size played only a small role

 

[HARLEM AL]

fukk outta here talking about Broner a good boxer

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

fukk outta here talking about Broner a good boxer

he would be if he was wheelchair bound.