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You still don’t get it, I want the Republican brand to be less favorable than the Democrat brand period. The Republicans are the ones trying to oppress us, not “weak” democrats.

Then... push the Democrats to be better. If they do better then their brand will be better. You want people to shut up about their shortcomings so that compared to the Republicans they'll appear better by default... What kind of insipid bullshyt is that? :mjlol:
 

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Then... push the Democrats to be better. If they do better then their brand will be better. You want people to shut up about their shortcomings so that compared to the Republicans they'll appear better by default... What kind of insipid bullshyt is that? :mjlol:
Level the playing field so that the Democrats are better by default which will force the Republicans to do better and not be a party of evil.

If Republicans no longer act like a comically mustache twirling villain then maybe the reforms and social programs you want to pass will actually have a chance.

Republicans shouldn’t be given a pass to be the evil choice by default.

The distance between the current Democratic Party and the current Republican Party is far greater in “piousness” for the people than your aspiration Democratic Party and the current one.

I don’t see how you can fail to realize that the problem with this country are the Republicans. Not the Democrats.


Imagine if America had two parties competing for the votes of all of Americans instead of one having to carry the sole burden of being adults in the room; the other’s sole focus is to keep their sheep indoctrinated and vote against their own interest while getting a constant pardon for being evil.
 

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You still don’t get it, I want the Republican brand to be less favorable than the Democrat brand period. The Republicans are the ones trying to oppress us, not “weak” democrats.
"weak" democrats signed the same bills and gave the same cover to Israel as the Republicans. They are functionally indistinguishable from Republicans on the issue of dropping bombs on the heads on 7 year old children in Gaza. Republicans and Democrats are both engaging in politics of oppression, just because one is worse (and Republicans ARE WORSE) doesn't mean that the other is good or even satisfactory.
 

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"weak" democrats signed the same bills and gave the same cover to Israel as the Republicans. They are functionally indistinguishable from Republicans on the issue of dropping bombs on the heads on 7 year old children in Gaza. Republicans and Democrats are both engaging in politics of oppression, just because one is worse (and Republicans ARE WORSE) doesn't mean that the other is good or even satisfactory.
Even if I grant you that the layman or normie should not perceive the Republican Party in a more popular manner. Until that discrepancy is fixed, the establishment Dems that you hate so much may think they should be more like Republicans since they’re the more popular party
 

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No, there should be more urgency to get the Republicans to adopt a more urgent stance because the Dems currently don’t hold any power
Level the playing field so that the Democrats are better by default which will force the Republicans to do better and not be a party of evil.

If Republicans no longer act like a comically mustache twirling villain then maybe the reforms and social programs you want to pass will actually have a chance.
You guys cannot be serious with this. It's 2025, why are you still parroting First-Term-Obama-Era fetishization of bipartisanship? The Republicans are beyond saving because they do not have virtuous goals or values. They are structurally, fundamentally opposed to doing good things. The reason you think they can be convinced to not be evil is because you also don't think it's evil to drop bombs on children, as evidenced by your silence when Democrats were doing it. You believe Republicans can bomb children and not be considered a comically mustache twirling villain. Your primary concern is optics, so you're totally fine with them starving children domestic and abroad, as long as they do it while adopting a respectful, genteel affect unlike MAGA's boorish, crass behavior.

Republicans shouldn’t be given a pass to be the evil choice by default.
It's not a pass, it's the reality. They are the evil choice because they are evil.

The distance between the current Democratic Party and the current Republican Party is far greater in “piousness” for the people than your aspiration Democratic Party and the current one.
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I don’t see how you can fail to realize that the problem with this country are the Republicans. Not the Democrats.


Imagine if America had two parties competing for the votes of all of Americans instead of one having to carry the sole burden of being adults in the room; the other’s sole focus is to keep their sheep indoctrinated and vote against their own interest while getting a constant pardon for being evil.
The Democrats are the problem because they are the only ones even remotely capable of slowing the car down as it heads straight into a brick wall. Republicans are hammering the gas pedal because they're suicidal, there's no use trying to convince them, they want to die. Democrats are sitting in the passenger seat looking out the window. We're tied up in the back seat yelling at the Democrats to grab the fukking wheel. And you're in the trunk telling us to leave the Democrats alone because at least they're not suicidal, and that we should we wagging our finger at the suicidal Republican instead.
 

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Didn't realize my post needed a trigger warning

It's pretty obvious now that the public has largely moved on.

The DSA guy going all John Wick and gunning down that young Jewish couple isn't going to help with regular people either. It really ripped the mask off the flimsy facade of the entire genocidal movement.
 

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You guys cannot be serious with this. It's 2025, why are you still parroting First-Term-Obama-Era fetishization of bipartisanship? The Republicans are beyond saving because they do not have virtuous goals or values. They are structurally, fundamentally opposed to doing good things. The reason you think they can be convinced to not be evil is because you also don't think it's evil to drop bombs on children, as evidenced by your silence when Democrats were doing it. You believe Republicans can bomb children and not be considered a comically mustache twirling villain. Your primary concern is optics, so you're totally fine with them starving children domestic and abroad, as long as they do it while adopting a respectful, genteel affect unlike MAGA's boorish, crass behavior.


It's not a pass, it's the reality. They are the evil choice because they are evil.


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The Democrats are the problem because they are the only ones even remotely capable of slowing the car down as it heads straight into a brick wall. Republicans are hammering the gas pedal because they're suicidal, there's no use trying to convince them, they want to die. Democrats are sitting in the passenger seat looking out the window. We're tied up in the back seat yelling at the Democrats to grab the fukking wheel. And you're in the trunk telling us to leave the Democrats alone because at least they're not suicidal, and that we should we wagging our finger at the suicidal Republican instead.
You realize your position isn’t sustainable right?

Your prescription will allow the Republican cancer to continue to spread because you resign yourself to the fact that they’ll always be evil.


Your analogy falls short because my role would be to politically neutralize the Republicans from being suicidal in the first place, your hope is that with enough reforms the Democratic Party can strong will themselves into power - when that will never be the case. The Republican indoctrination machine is too strong. Your goal is to cut the weed at grass level instead of pulling it up from the root.

Most of the issues that this country faces is from the Republican party, not from the “weak” democrats. In the real world, your opinion of “strong” democrats haven’t been able to win in red or purple districts for that matter.

If you think we can reform our way out of this duopoly with one side being granted an evil pass then your strong democrats should be able to win in purple and red districts… but they aren’t
 

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I... never said this :gucci:

You're assigning things I didn't say to me... Seems like your brain is entering @88m3 status :mjlol:



:what:

:mjlol:
Why are you applying pressure to the party that currently holds no power? Shouldn’t you be pressuring Trump and Maga to do something?


the energy has been very different since Trump took office from you protesters
 

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You still don’t get it, I want the Republican brand to be less favorable than the Democrat brand period. The Republicans are the ones trying to oppress us, not “weak” democrats.
A protest vote which is purely for optics
 

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You guys cannot be serious with this. It's 2025, why are you still parroting First-Term-Obama-Era fetishization of bipartisanship? The Republicans are beyond saving because they do not have virtuous goals or values. They are structurally, fundamentally opposed to doing good things. The reason you think they can be convinced to not be evil is because you also don't think it's evil to drop bombs on children, as evidenced by your silence when Democrats were doing it. You believe Republicans can bomb children and not be considered a comically mustache twirling villain. Your primary concern is optics, so you're totally fine with them starving children domestic and abroad, as long as they do it while adopting a respectful, genteel affect unlike MAGA's boorish, crass behavior.


It's not a pass, it's the reality. They are the evil choice because they are evil.


you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson.gif


The Democrats are the problem because they are the only ones even remotely capable of slowing the car down as it heads straight into a brick wall. Republicans are hammering the gas pedal because they're suicidal, there's no use trying to convince them, they want to die. Democrats are sitting in the passenger seat looking out the window. We're tied up in the back seat yelling at the Democrats to grab the fukking wheel. And you're in the trunk telling us to leave the Democrats alone because at least they're not suicidal, and that we should we wagging our finger at the suicidal Republican instead.
Dont lecture us about republicans now. I was saying vote blue No matter what when y’all were crying about Gaza last fall
 
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