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  1. GoddamnyamanProf

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    I like the idea that the film itself is playing a trick on the audience. I can buy that Borden didnt notice it was Root on stage and I can buy that the scene that shows the machine working was just a final lie by Angier and I can even buy that David Bowie set up the rabbits and hats to trick Angier. Everything in that theory is mostly all plausible...EXCEPT this:

    Lol uh WHAT? :mindblown: When and why and HOW exactly would Cutter find DOZENS of random corpses that all looked like clones of Angier, "obtain" them, and set them all up in identical costume in identical water tanks in Angier's own theater space without him knowing anything until the set up with Borden? This suggestion is entirely ridiculous, there's absolutely zero evidence supporting it in the film and its pretty much the backbone of this entire "the machine didnt work" theory, which is a shame because its an intriguing internet theory. Im afraid thats all it is, though. You couldnt quite pull it off.
     
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    Yeah...outside of that one part, I was sitting here like :ohhh: :ehh:

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    Corpses are kind of a reach. There has to be another way to explain that.
     
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    This dude that said the machine didn't work is an idiot. I watched this film so many times, now only I know everything verbatim, I can identify who's Albert and who's Fredrick. But it doesn't even take multiple viewings to know the machine worked. All it takes was someone to pay attention. Even claiming that's Root at the end does not make sense because how would Root even return to work with Angier for one after the betrayal he pulled, and 2nd of all how would HE be the one in the tank if he's suppose to be the PRESTIGE that comes out in the end? And it doesn't even explain the OTHER water tanks.

    Sometimes COMMON SENSE needs to be used.
     
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    This is a classic case of OVER THINKING some sh*t.

    1.) Angier assumed that Tesla was pulling his leg, but realized the machine actually worked by discovering the duplicate cat and hats. Telsa admitted not to even KNOW the hats even there! Angier already was leaving believing Telsa as a fraud and stumbled upon the hats and the other cat ON HIS OWN. So where did it show that Telsa was even trying to fool him when Angier already has that assumption? Angier found out the machine worked on his own account, not by what Telsa done.

    2.) Telsa didn't need to pull a "trick". He was an actual SCIENTIST, in the film as well as in real life. He, himself stated in the movie, "True science is never an EXACT science." So, the machine didn't work as expected, but it did work. There is NO SCENE even suggesting that it did not. Even Cutter when trying to purchase the machine told the Angier's broker that it works.

    3.) Angier was upset because he read Borden's diary and Borden purposely wrote that it's all a ruse to put him on a wild goose chase. Borden had NO KNOWLEDGE about Telsa's work, but knew tricking Angier to leave the country on a wild goose chase would work. This is the only reason why Angier assumed Tesla was a fraud. As I stated before, Tesla admitted on not even knowing about the multiple duplicate hats. THEY EVEN MEASURED AND EXAMINED THE HATS to prove they were EXACT DUPLICATES. And to add some common sense to it all, if Tesla was actually going to trick Angier, where and how is it LOGISTICALLY POSSIBLE for him to request and purchase all of those hats in it's exact way in RURAL COLORADO SPRINGS, up in Pikes Peaks no less? This is precisely what over thinking is.

    4.) It shows you, in detail what happens when Angier used the machine. He drew an X on the floor in where he should be transported. He laid his gun on the side of the machine just in case. He turns on the machine and duplicates and transport himself. He panics and shoots his other self. That is all shown. And even without that, the scene where him and Cutter was showing the trick to the theater promoter, he went in and got transported within seconds.

    And why would we be lead to believe what Angier was saying when he was dying. He was dying and had no reason not to be lying. In fact, he didn't even tell Borden how he done it. WE, the viewer was shown how! So why that scene have to be a ruse? That scene was use to inform US. Borden didn't even CARE to know. Angier even asked him to take a look at the tanks to prove how much he had sacrificed and it didn't matter to Borden. So why would you think it was a ruse if Angier insisted Borden to take a look?

    Assuming sh*t that's NOT on screen and denying what's actually there. Maybe you are like Angier, that it's "too simple" it had to be complex than that. Don't be making sh*t up that's NOT on screen. Go off strictly what's on screen and use common sense.
     
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    Some people just don't be paying attention to the movie. Cutter did not know how the trick work. Angier, more than once, told Cutter "not to come backstage". He didn't want Cutter to know. He had blind stage employees that transfer the bodies. Cutter truly thought Angier was dead until he went to the house and discovered that "Lord Caldrow" was actually Angier's true identity. Everything is shown or explained on film.
     
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    The machine worked. The clone that drowned couldn't have been Root (Angier's double) as he would've been buried before Borden's trial and they show a body at the end (in the tank) that looks like Angier. And I don't buy that they would've found another double as they went through so much trouble finding Root. And as someone said....they were lying to each other the whole time in they're diaries, but at the end of the movie there's no more diaries being involved. We're getting the ending uncorrupted from either of them.
     
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    Well said
    At the end of the day theres too much evidence that the machine worked

    I watched it the other day and was :wow:
    Felt so bad for Sarah. She knew and put up with it for the sake of the trick :to:
     
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    :mindblown:
     
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    :ohhh: wow I love that theory I need, the first time I watched this movie I got maybe half way through and my brother came home and he's like "what's this"
    Me: its a dope flick about some musicians
    Him: or it's good huh? good enough for you to restart it :mjpls:
    Me: :rudy: ......... : :ld:........ :ehh:
    and restarted it, that's how I figured out the trick

    Never heard that theory though
     
  10. gluvnast

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    Yes, I felt bad for her too, notice she hung herself around the caged birds. Nolan's symbolism was crazy in this one.
     
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    "You mean it today." :to:
     
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    Precisely.
     
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    Obviously the obfuscation :bryan:

    To me this is just another case of people trying to hard simply because its a Nolan film
     
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    you just want to believe in the extroadinary :mjpls:

    like ive seen the movie plenty, maybe you should watch it again

    remember its a show about magic...something that isnt real

    only simpletons think magic is real. Watch closely

    what i find hilarious is that people are quick to accept the idea that Tesla produced a cloning machine yet cant believe they could have found doubles :skip: this is the 1800s
     
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    She didn't know the whole time though, she only found out a short while before she comitted that.
     
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