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  1. luckyse7enz

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    Yeah...I think I do recall that he was telling someone the story when they show him shooting the double.

    I always rolled with the theory of the machine working and Angier having to knowingly murder a double in the tank, but this new explanation is feasible as well. :lupe:

    The other theory of him committing that and having the double get the glory is feasible too, but I think he was too ego-driven to let someone else get the prestige....and he had all those memories. Wouldn't have made enough sense.
     
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    Still the best film Nolan has made.
     
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    Meh, I still believe Borden would spot the double no matter how exact. Even if he was "distracted". I'd rather just take it as a Science Fiction film, I just can't see filmmakers making something just to fukk with the audience. But then again I don't know any personally :ld:
     
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    The movie is being very dishonest if they have Angier spilling his guts on the verge of death only to tell lies:aicmon:. Crying with sincerity about how he himself made sacrifices, by not knowing if he would end up being the one on stage or in the tank drowning. They were putting all of their cards on the table in that last face-to-face scene. Come on breh, yall reaching with this shyt. The explanation in the spoiler is not actually attainable by watching the movie in context.
     
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    :why: its a movie about magicians

    all magicians are liars. there is no such thing as magic. Its all an illusion

    that was the greatest one of them all, playing the trick on the audience. Even at the end Angier tried to fool Borden

    remember the crippled asian man with the fish bowl, it was foreshadowing of the fact of how much magicians sacrificed to make the trick believable.
     
  6. Trojan 24

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    But what was Angier sacrificing? Borden was the one who sacrificed the most, along with his brother. For the trick at least
     
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    Mehhh
     
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    his dignity? listen it takes a lot to live a lie.

    the man was going crazy with his obsession. That was the point of the movie

    if anything that should be clear as day. The man thought Borden KILLED his wife for crying out loud :skip:
     
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    :ld: Still believe Borden would spot the double, if this theory was true, then Borden missing the double is lazy writing to me.
     
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    The Double would have the same memories and wouldn't himself know that he was a double. The movie never explains if the double is the one in the machine or the one being transported.
     
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    considering Root in the movie was hugh jackman i dont see why he would spot him

    borden is a great magician but he aint perfect either

    youd think cutter and angier would have figured how he had a twin all along by that logic
     
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    Much easier to spot a double then a Identical twin.

    Maybe I need to watch it again. See if its plausible
     
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    :skip:
     
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    You're just copping pleas trying to defend a theory, when none of the shyt you're saying is actually sensibly attained by watching the movie. It would make Nolan a terrible film maker & writer. Even if you want something to go over the audience's head, you still need to have it be displayed in the film although not necessarily explained/revealed. Also being purposely dishonest within the story without clueing the audience in would be ridiculous, and this is what you're suggesting.
     
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    how in the world is nolan being dishonest :skip:

    at no point did you see the things happen real time with teslas machine. You don't get some wide angle view so you know for sure whats happening. This is at the heart of magic. Its ALL about tricking you

    the last words at the end of the movie are all you need to realize there is more to it than what you "see"

    the movie is ambiguous for that reason. The idea that the machine actually makes doubles is ludicrous and doesnt make sense BUT you dont want to believe that its just some simple illusion so you go the whole movie thinking tesla is some genius when his only real creation was alternating current :skip: They really had you when Tesla said:

    Nikola Tesla: I apologize for leaving without saying goodbye, but I seem to have outstayed my welcome in Colorado. The truly extraordinary is not permitted in science and industry. Perhaps you'll find more luck in your field, where people are happy to be mystified. You will find what you are looking for in this box. Alley has written you a thorough set of instructions. I add only one suggestion on using the machine: destroy it. Drop it to the bottom of the deepest ocean. Such a thing will bring you only misery.
     

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