The real concern for hip hop...

[hex]

You can't really expect Gen Z to carry a 50 year old genre. It would be like expecting Gen Y to carry disco.

The only difference is disco died....which brings me to my next point.

In the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's there were different genres and subgenres being created left and right. There hasn't been a new major genre of music since hip-hop....usually Gen Y or Gen Z would have a completely new genre they created or at least updated....but it never happened.

I think hip-hop is and will be ok because it is surprisingly resilient but anyone expecting the next BIG or Kendrick or whoever this late in the game will probably be disappointed. There will continue to be dozens of subgenres and small fan bases for artists that carved out their own minor empires. Which is fine.

Fred.

 

[BK The Great]

I think it’s still in a good spot, now you just got to search for what you looking for.

 

[L $ C]

X, JuiceWorld and Pop Smoke dying altered hip hop more than Pac and Biggie dying IMO. It straight up destroyed the path rap was likely going down and instead we got a flood of trash women rappers and some drug addicts.

All three of those guys had arena tour potential, big album potential etc.

fairly shocking take by you imo.

not sure if i agree but theres truth to it

 

[L $ C]

Don't do this, you cant afford to be stuck in your ways.

Hiphop is still the biggest selling genre and has been for over the last decade and still going.

I personally feel it is stale and has been weaponized to destroy the culture even still there are mega stars in hiphop.

Lil Baby, Young Thug and them command legions and legions of people. Millions of fans!

There are great album from vets this past month alone and then "New Sounds" is probably the only problem you are right about. Producers are more trash than ever!!

what? how does this post make any sense. sounds like you wrote it in AI

 

[L $ C]

Exactly how is everything worse because of the battle? Seems to me like rappers are RAPPING again, I've been enjoying myself.

I think the problem is there is a certain pocket of fans that got used to a certain types of sounds being at the forefront and now that they're not the sky is falling somehow even faster than before Drake got dismantled.

You got nikkas in here sulking because Kanye and Drake don't have the same gravity. "The rap game is so boring without Ye or Drake" as they dropping albums in real time lol, ya'll don't care about them nikkas or their music like that, you feel an emotional void now that the game is trying to reset itself, put a fukking tampon in it.

who ? joey badass and some C listers from the west?


outside of the clipse album what has you moderatly interested where dudes are really rapping? hip hop isnt on the charts anymore almost at all. Im not aruging that you cant find good music. but the genre has taken a huge step back. it isnt #1 slot for the first time in 25 years

 

[SunZoo]

who ? joey badass and some C listers from the west?


outside of the clipse album what has you moderatly interested where dudes are really rapping? hip hop isnt on the charts anymore almost at all. Im not aruging that you cant find good music. but the genre has taken a huge step back. it isnt #1 slot for the first time in 25 years

See, you talmbout the charts, fukk the charts, fukk the rap game even, the shyt is going through a death/transition just other major aspects of our lives are, so it's going to be reflected.

Rap is the genre, the rap game is the racket, Hip Hop as a culture doesn't need to put any focus on saving the racket from failing, just fukking rap....

 

[Pure Water]

See, you talmbout the charts, fukk the charts, fukk the rap game even, the shyt is going through a death/transition just other major aspects of our lives are, so it's going to be reflected.

Rap is the genre, the rap game is the racket, Hip Hop as a culture doesn't need to put any focus on saving the racket from failing, just fukking rap....

I actually agree with this. Hell, chasing charts is what’s keeping guys like Rocky and Roddy from dropping music. They’re terrified of dropping duds chart wise when what should really matter is the art.

 

[L $ C]

one hip hop artist has sold over 150K first week....two if you count the drake party album but that was an rnb album...the entire year???? yeah shyt is down bad

 

[hex]

one hip hop artist has sold over 150K first week....two if you count the drake party album but that was an rnb album...the entire year???? yeah shyt is down bad

Why do you care though?

I dunno how old you are but we had no idea who sold what back in the day. It wasn't possible to track.

The only way to kinda keep up on numbers was Billboard magazine....which was beefing with Ice Cube. So no rap fans even looked at that sh*t.

Fred.

 

[Chip Skylark]

Hip Hop fans are the reason Hip Hop is in the state it is in.
Personality is more inportant than skill and we allowed it.

This!

 

[Chip Skylark]

You can't really expect Gen Z to carry a 50 year old genre. It would be like expecting Gen Y to carry disco.

The only difference is disco died....which brings me to my next point.

In the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's there were different genres and subgenres being created left and right. There hasn't been a new major genre of music since hip-hop....usually Gen Y or Gen Z would have a completely new genre they created or at least updated....but it never happened.

I think hip-hop is and will be ok because it is surprisingly resilient but anyone expecting the next BIG or Kendrick or whoever this late in the game will probably be disappointed. There will continue to be dozens of subgenres and small fan bases for artists that carved out their own minor empires. Which is fine.

Fred.

Gotta be specific.

Disco didn’t die it was purposely killed off due to racism and homophobia

 

[hex]

Gotta be specific.

Disco didn’t die it was purposely killed off due to racism and homophobia

Forget disco, say grunge. Hair bands. Heavy metal. Or any of the dozens of subgenres of music that no longer exist on a mainstream level.

The point is there should've been several new genres created by Gen Y and Gen Z....and there largely hasn't been. They're just doing more rap because unlike that other stuff, it's still here. Which is cool but expecting them to carry it is insane.

Fred.

 

[Jigganaut]

My son is really in to tyler the creator and you know what. I actually enjoy being able to listen to chromokopia with him and us both enjoying the album equally.

 

[ROBEEZYKILLA]

Clipse might do something with it drake is trying to regain his top spot Kendrick is not dropping in probably another 3 years I think future hinted at something not sure but he’s old as fukk Benny been mid nas and mass appeal got the legends dropping shyt like raekwon I think nas supposed to drop something too slick Rick was cool but didn’t move the needle like that jackboys are dropping same time as clipse but they don’t rap rap carti was cool but he not really rap rap idk can’t tell how this 2nd half gonna go but fukk it as long as I’m looking forward to it thats something

 

[L $ C]

Why do you care though?

I dunno how old you are but we had no idea who sold what back in the day. It wasn't possible to track.

The only way to kinda keep up on numbers was Billboard magazine....which was beefing with Ice Cube. So no rap fans even looked at that sh*t.

Fred.

matters for the genre bro, this is a hip hop website always has been. numbers mattered for the genre in 02 and in 95. they always will matter...this is the first year hip hop legit is not a top 2 or 3 genre in world in prolly 30-40 years