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The initial advance was 10 racks for the first project, then he would get another bigger advance for each subsequent album he gave the label.
Everyone in the music industry has a contract like that.
The SHYT These Record Labels Do
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Everyone in the music industry has a contract like that.
Majestyx
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and this is why pop music is trash(ithis includes all this current rap shyt of the last 10 years) and i dont engage in conversations about it.mortuus est
Veteran
i believe so
think about it
most people popping in rap or doing very well use to be hustlers or very good in school , they get the game
the people in the middle in my opinion are the ones that are oblivious to alot of things and will get fuked over, why is it that all the hustlers can get them self out of deals? what did frank ocean do soo different from the other people that had amazing music but were shelved
im in the music biz so i see certain things myself, even indie artists are trying to finesse everyone , not just the big dogs that have 10 million to hand out, its a game you just have to know and prepare for or it will fuk you up
like i said, if rich the kid signs me for 30 rack best believe im gonna find a way to get over , most artists would love to do that but they are stuck in "creator" mode , some dont know how to mix artists and hustler mode
if the rza can plan out his music legacy after being fuked up on tommy boy, others should be able to do the same with all the info out there today
self-publishing FTW
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put your music in the market, the market will decide if you win or lose
there's also the aspect of copyrighting and signing up for publishing
Iceson Beckford
Rich In Spirit.
https://djbooth.net/features/2019-02-25-meek-mill-even-record-deal-too-much
Read this.
Something has to be sacrificed/leveraged and it all links into your attitude to gratification and risk.
EG, People give Nipsey props (rightfully) but his process was arduous. He only re entered a deal once he was happy with his level of control but that took years of sacrifice.
OMG! So prior to 360 deals and artists learning to demand large upfront cash advances to tide them over until they could make some money...a lot of artists made records and didn’t even make any profit from them b/c they had to pay back all of the costs associated with creating the record...So they was outchea making records and only breaking even unless they got upfront pay?!!!!
okay I’m continuing to listen. I unpack info as I listen to lectures.
UpAndComing
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Like I said, the media makes the owner the antagonist in a story not looking at the truth
Do ya'll know how much randoms come up in record label's offices tryna be a star, thinking they the next big thing? Each year?
So they would be "honorable" by giving any random person a favorable contract while they waste millions on people who lack drive, talent, and star quality?
All the money they have to put into marketing, publicist fees, singing training, public appearances, commercials, distribution, administration fees, merchandising etc
Most of these artists don't give the labels a positive rate of return until 3 years in
Businesses don't become successful on some false view of "integrity"
Upandcoming looking at me likeLike I said, the media makes the owner the antagonist in a story not looking at the truth
Do ya'll know how much randoms come up in record label's offices tryna be a star, thinking they the next big thing? Each year?
So they would be "honorable" by giving any random person a favorable contract while they waste millions on people who lack drive, talent, and star quality?
All the money they have to put into marketing, publicist fees, singing training, public appearances, commercials, distribution, administration fees, merchandising etc
Most of these artists don't give the labels a positive rate of return until 3 years in
Businesses don't become successful on some false view of "integrity"
“If u don’t getcho rudipoo fairy tale ass outta here”!
I know they gotta make money, but some of this shyt seems grimey as hell to me.
Complexion
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From a labels point of view they're rolling dice because they don't know who'll make it and who'll flop but it all costs and someone has to pay. Often an entire labels overheads are carried by the marquee artist which lets them offset what they gambled on the rest who they hope will make it.
For them its like juggling, they just gotta keep it all up in the air long enough to make it profitable which is why there is little in the way of what you'd call honor and plenty of shiestiness because thats what it takes. Look at how many artists got screwed on their first deal only to cake up on the next one because then they knew what not to do.
There are far easier ways of making much more money in the world but people want the fame, most likely to help assuage an inferiority complex/drive away from something/validation so there will always be labels and wannabes and when one is in a position of (seeming) power the rest automatically become weak due to how the playing field is.
For them its like juggling, they just gotta keep it all up in the air long enough to make it profitable which is why there is little in the way of what you'd call honor and plenty of shiestiness because thats what it takes. Look at how many artists got screwed on their first deal only to cake up on the next one because then they knew what not to do.
There are far easier ways of making much more money in the world but people want the fame, most likely to help assuage an inferiority complex/drive away from something/validation so there will always be labels and wannabes and when one is in a position of (seeming) power the rest automatically become weak due to how the playing field is.
So basically lack of knowledge about how the game is played is fukking a lot of new artists raw.
I never thought about how vulnerable a lot of these artists can be.
I can only imagine artists coming from backgrounds with zero financial literacy or business acumen being offered a lil glitz and glam, saddle with slave contracts.
Or am I being too doom and gloom? Not everybody got that hustler spirit...
mortuus est
Veteran
honestly , if people educate themselves on the music biz and love music and willing to put the work in, you could be eating very good
even if you dont even fuk with the music game like that and you just love money, you can eat good
the amount of people that got #1's and stopped making music just cause they were only in it for the money, they flipped that money and went on to do other things, its one of the reasons i dnt fully get into the "he/she fell off" nah some peple just leave the game cause they set out to do something and got it, why i need to go to these award shows? im good , obvlsy you get the ones that love music so they stay for ever, all those one hit wonders, not all of them are dead end broke
you can even get 100k upfront just off the strength of a single deal, no ep no album just straight up single if its good
even if you dont even fuk with the music game like that and you just love money, you can eat good
the amount of people that got #1's and stopped making music just cause they were only in it for the money, they flipped that money and went on to do other things, its one of the reasons i dnt fully get into the "he/she fell off" nah some peple just leave the game cause they set out to do something and got it, why i need to go to these award shows? im good , obvlsy you get the ones that love music so they stay for ever, all those one hit wonders, not all of them are dead end broke
you can even get 100k upfront just off the strength of a single deal, no ep no album just straight up single if its good
UpAndComing
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“If u don’t getcho rudipoo fairy tale ass outta here”!
I know they gotta make money, but some of this shyt seems grimey as hell to me.
Imagine you owning a label and some random breh who came in 4th in his high school talent show wants to be a star so badly
Would you worry about imaginary integrity, or would you be like "Maaaan listen, you either take this contract or
"mortuus est
Veteran
So basically lack of knowledge about how the game is played is fukking a lot of new artists raw.
I never thought about how vulnerable a lot of these artists can be.
I can only imagine artists coming from backgrounds with zero financial literacy or business acumen being offered a lil glitz and glam, saddle with slave contracts.
Or am I being too doom and gloom? Not everybody got that hustler spirit...
but booksnrain this is how life is
its nobodies business to teach you business
it wasn't your schools job to teach you taxes and how to actually be financially free but yeah it is lack of knowledge , one of the reasons why record labels would go after boy bands or girl groups cause they didnt knowwww shyt and more people = $$$
imagine getting signed at 16, 17, 18 years old vs what you know now, you would get bushed too if you didnt have someone showing you how to move around
So basically lack of knowledge about how the game is played is fukking a lot of new artists raw.
I never thought about how vulnerable a lot of these artists can be.
I can only imagine artists coming from backgrounds with zero financial literacy or business acumen being offered a lil glitz and glam, saddle with slave contracts.
Or am I being too doom and gloom? Not everybody got that hustler spirit...
U also have to take in account that majority of black artist comes from the hood, have no idea about business
and when a white executive or a smart smooth talking nikka come up to u and say offer u 100k advance money something u never saw before and start selling u bullshyt like .. u can stay in the flyest hotels, travel the country, meet so and so,, u going to take it... especially if u don’t have anyone around u with smarts to themselves
TLC sold 15 million copies of their one album in the 90s which turn into say 150 to 200 million dollars for the label and they only got 30 k apiece and 3 jeeps
gotta read the labels