The south making it a thing to let everyone know they don’t listen to jay Z is forced and corny

[Cladyclad]

I wouldn't say that the south didn't fukk with NY artist, at the time, again in the 90s, NY/East Coast rap was more lyrical, than the South's music. Different formats and the Southerners did not care for all that lyrical boom bap rap. I stated the South did listen to NY rappers, Nas, Mase, Bigge, DMX got major played down here in 98, Busta's huge radio single, I got you in check, got play, LL. The Southerners fukk with some of yall rappers. Busta even said he fukked with the Dungeon Family heavy.

The Big Gipp situation, he's looking in the lens from 1993, how things were and how things are now. From his lens from 1992/3, through the 90s, that's dayum near a whole decade, Jay-Z was NOT that dude. Jay-Z started to "become" that dude 2003? Maybe? and 50 came and chopped that down. There were many NYC rappers bigger than him in that time span, that's what he's saying. In the 90s, the South or West, MidWest did not fukk with this dude Jay-Z when he was out and amongst his peers in the industry.

That's what Gipp is saying, but those who weren't around in that decade can't seem to understand it and they look at it as Gipp's hating but again, they are trying to bring 2023 rules into the 1990s.

The 90s and where we are today are night and day when it comes to the rap game. Two Completely Different Worlds. Jay in the 90s was your Harold Minor per say, Sebastian Telfair, you heard folks trying to hype him up after Biggie died, but then DMX came and crushed the building on that.

The problem I believe when it comes to NY bias is when you try and shyt on Southern rappers as if the South did not have their own lane and their own great rappers.

The Southern folks do not clown or shyt on NY rappers, we respect the rappers, but many southerners weren't fukking with the music and style, with the exception of a few that I listed. The South would always try and reach out to put out records with East Coast cats in the 90s, some were successful, Mia X and Foxy, JD and Jay-Z, and some others, this was NOT the case for East Coast rappers (I may be wrong) but Southern labels and artists always tried to collaborate with NY rappers.

In the 90s, how many NYC rappers featured a Southern artist on their shyt?? but you can name huge radio singles where Southern artists featured a NY rapper.

In the 90s jay z had album that sold 5 million.


how old are u

 

[Cladyclad]

It's because every NYer wears NY on their sleeve even if they haven't been there in 20 years. We hate a "I'm from NY" ass nikka

These nikkas dikkride Jay all day like we really give a fukk about Jay Z

Its a two way street to dikkriding

praising someone and hating on someone

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Yep. As a 42 year old dude from Queens obviously the nyc 90’s boom bap Nas Biggie Jay z Mobb Deep is my favorite era and what I grew up on but I loved all that sh1t you mentioned

Dre and Snoop really got me heavy into hiphop I also loved stuff from the south the dungeon family geto boys etc and as you said those songs were all played on nyc radio

Imo it sounds like we gave their music more of a chance then vice versa

If you want to be real with it culturally I think we just love music in general more.

Down south you hear dudes talk all the time about how music is basically just for the clubs and strip clubs.

They think anything deeper then that to listen to is corny and too lyrically miracle

Obviously not everyone but speaking in general terms

As I stated in my first thread, it's no slight to what I'm saying, but we just don't sit around listening to things that we have to think deeply about that does not truly fit our lifestyles.

We have the blues for that. I'm speaking for the average listener that listen to rap music from 1993-2000. Early rap, LL, Big Daddy Kane, folks/southerners would listen to NY cats like that, but when our own started rapping about the things we go through as a whole, collectively then we moved away from NY rappers and started to listen to and push our own. They spoke our language. In that time, the 90s, if you can say something that resonates with less words/bars, simple metaphors, you won us. It was just how things were back in the day. That dark music, boom bap music was not for us to figure out.

The climate down here in the 90s was different, as I stated, we have HBCUs, homecoming, family reunions, Bayou Classic, Kappa Beach, Freak Nic, Basketball and Football black classics, this all was happening in the 90s, folks wanna party and jam, not think deep about music.

The beat gotta be funky and jamming and the lyrics had to be simple and catchy. Our environment caused for this to be the case. We had too much happening on the weekend down here in the Southern states.

Like ATL had Jelly Beans, That spot was hot, Downtown 1996, Freak Nic and the Olympics came to ATL, the parties, etc. I think the dirty bird dance was out, who in ATL or Memphis is trying to listen to Mobb Deep 24/7??

No diss

 

[NO-BadAzz]

In the 90s jay z had album that sold 5 million.


how old are u

What album in the 1990s Jay-Z had (at the time) sold 5 million records??

Did his album sell 4-5 million albums that year when it was released or has it now eclisped that number 20 or so years later??

 

[Standing on business]

In the 90s jay z had album that sold 5 million.


how old are u

Hard knock life is still hovs highest selling album til this day

 

[Frump]

As I stated in my first thread, it's no slight to what I'm saying, but we just don't sit around listening to things that we have to think deeply about that does not truly fit our lifestyles.

We have the blues for that. I'm speaking for the average listener that listen to rap music from 1993-2000. Early rap, LL, Big Daddy Kane, folks/southerners would listen to NY cats like that, but when our own started rapping about the things we go through as a whole, collectively then we moved away from NY rappers and started to listen to and push our own. They spoke our language. In that time, the 90s, if you can say something that resonates with less words/bars, simple metaphors, you won us. It was just how things were back in the day. That dark music, boom bap music was not for us to figure out.

The climate down here in the 90s was different, as I stated, we have HBCUs, homecoming, family reunions, Bayou Classic, Kappa Beach, Freak Nic, Basketball and Football black classics, this all was happening in the 90s, folks wanna party and jam, not think deep about music.

The beat gotta be funky and jamming and the lyrics had to be simple and catchy. Our environment caused for this to be the case. We had too much happening on the weekend down here in the Southern states.

Like ATL had Jelly Beans, That spot was hot, Downtown 1996, Freak Nic and the Olympics came to ATL, the parties, etc. I think the dirty bird dance was out, who in ATL or Memphis is trying to listen to Mobb Deep 24/7??

No diss

Fair and as I said I think everyone prefers their own I just think nyc is the only place that gets shyt for it

 

[Cladyclad]

What album in the 1990s Jay-Z had (at the time) sold 5 million records??

Did his album sell 4-5 million albums that year when it was released or has it now eclisped that number 20 or so years later??

Lol

the man had two number 1 albums
and another that was top 3 in the 90s

 

[Frump]

As I stated in my first thread, it's no slight to what I'm saying, but we just don't sit around listening to things that we have to think deeply about that does not truly fit our lifestyles.

We have the blues for that. I'm speaking for the average listener that listen to rap music from 1993-2000. Early rap, LL, Big Daddy Kane, folks/southerners would listen to NY cats like that, but when our own started rapping about the things we go through as a whole, collectively then we moved away from NY rappers and started to listen to and push our own. They spoke our language. In that time, the 90s, if you can say something that resonates with less words/bars, simple metaphors, you won us. It was just how things were back in the day. That dark music, boom bap music was not for us to figure out.

The climate down here in the 90s was different, as I stated, we have HBCUs, homecoming, family reunions, Bayou Classic, Kappa Beach, Freak Nic, Basketball and Football black classics, this all was happening in the 90s, folks wanna party and jam, not think deep about music.

The beat gotta be funky and jamming and the lyrics had to be simple and catchy. Our environment caused for this to be the case. We had too much happening on the weekend down here in the Southern states.

Like ATL had Jelly Beans, That spot was hot, Downtown 1996, Freak Nic and the Olympics came to ATL, the parties, etc. I think the dirty bird dance was out, who in ATL or Memphis is trying to listen to Mobb Deep 24/7??

No diss

One thing I’ll push back on is you saying the south prefers more simple rhyming and less deep intricate shyt

The dungeon families music is pretty deep at times and Andre 3000 is a pretty intricate rapper who at times you have to listen to a few times to get

You said nyc rappers were too intricate and lyrical miracle but that really wasn’t the case for the top guys

BIG was pretty straight forward in his rhymes..

Nas as well even though he gets shyt for being too deep or lyrical miracle he never was like that. His storytelling get complicated And intricate but that’s about it

Jay would get clever but nothing too crazy.

Like most nyc rappers all three would say some slick shyt every few times you may have to listen to twice to get but nothing too crazy

Someone like Kendrick is way more lyrical miracle then any of those guys

 

[spliz]

Its a two way street to dikkriding

praising someone and hating on someone

Interesting take.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

One thing I’ll push back on is you saying the south prefers more simple rhyming and less deep intricate shyt

The dungeon families music is pretty deep at times and Andre 3000 is a pretty intricate rapper who at times you have to listen to a few times to get

You said nyc rappers were too intricate and lyrical miracle but that really wasn’t the case for the top guys

BIG was pretty straight forward in his rhymes..

Nas as well even though he gets shyt for being too deep or lyrical miracle he never was like that. His storytelling get complicated And intricate but that’s about it

Jay would get clever but nothing too crazy.

Like most nyc rappers all three would say some slick shyt every few times you may have to listen to twice to get but nothing too crazy

Someone like Kendrick is way more lyrical miracle then any of those guys

Keeping it real all the way 100, folks think Kast and them were on like that down here when that wasn't the case either. Kast had some good radio singles that got spins (Elevators), I would say that had folks really in tune outside of ATL. I remember us going to school singing the hook, but again, that rappidy rap was not what we was on. It took songs like Ms. Jackson, and B.O.B. it was another song, Back of the bus, the songs that folks jammed to, the beat that caught the attention. "Throw yo hands in the air" etc. that's when folks started to fukk with Kast heavy down here.

Don't fool yourself, Kast and the Dungeon family wasn't always them dudes down here.

 

[DUCKED_OFF]

The only time you really heard people playing him was on the big radio stations

I'm in florida and outside of the radio you really didn't hear people playing jay z like that

Block parties, uncle al fest, mlk parades, fl classic( tampa and orlando), tally homecoming, bcr,brown suga fest, car events etc you didn't hear jay z

This doesn't mean his music is trash it just means nobody wanted to listen to it like that

As a jitt all I heard the older nikkas playing was playa shyt, gangsta shyt, shyt for the hoes, shyt to shake your trunk and jam pony mixes

And jay z didn't fit into that

 

[MJ Truth]

From what I see on the net the south despises anything east coast. Not sure what it is but they can’t stand us.

Not true at all. Plenty of all time NY rappers got and still get plenty love in the south. DMX never had these issues. 50 didn’t. Southerners weren’t hating on the Dips. Etc.

 

[BK The Great]

Not true at all. Plenty of all time NY rappers got and still get plenty love in the south. DMX never had these issues. 50 didn’t. Southerners weren’t hating on the Dips. Etc.

It seems like, I know Jay had guys like Scarface doing songs with him and he's considered the King Of The South.

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

up north nikkas in they feelings cuz nikkas down here en masse DONT GIVE AF about none of that double talk gibberish over a boom bap beat shyt. nikkas rapping about the moons and stars and shyt .... mathematics

Pull ya skirts down

 

[FunkDoc1112]

man what are you talking about...have you been to nyc....do you know how we talk to each other...
why you think we so competitive.....we shyt on everyone....even ourselves....but we give credit where its due

The way the other 3 boroughs talk about the Bronx always kills me