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That's why I'm not going to respond to their nonsense. The mfers writing the wiki pages weren't there. I literally grew up in the X during all this while these keyboard historians were still swimming in their daddy's nuts.

Crack was blowing up, Reganomics was hurting the hood and half the borough was still on fire when Hip Hop started. Koch wasn't doing shyt and the NYPD was robbing nikkas.

The only reason it popped off was because the block parties were the common ground for everyone - blacks, puerto ricans, jamaicans, Zulus, 5 percenters,...everyone...to escape from the bullshyt and catch a vibe. We didn't get into the bullshyt they trying out now because we all grew up as part of the same culture. Herc and KRS was jamaican, Red Alert was from the islands, Kid Capri was half-white, Pun was puerto rican. Most of the dudes that I can remember being nice with the break dancing and tagging were PR. Not one person gaf. If you were from around the way and wasn't a fronta, you was down. We had more smoke for them nikkas from Brooklyn :pacspit:

I grew up around Dyckman.

We're talking about creating hip hop. The music was black. The dancing was black. We created it. The Ricans came aboard later. They didn't create they joined in. If we didn't do it there would be no hip hop. No one is denying their presence but they don't get to claim it like that nor can Jamaicans.

Hip hop is black American culture.

Graf was by far the most integrated followed by b-boying. The music barely had a handful of Ricans.
 

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No, learn how to read. I lived in flatbush when most west indians came to love once they started migrating here in huge numbers in the mid 70'S to early 80's

I was young but I remember how they would act when rap came on

fukk Flatbush.

I live uptown where there are more nikkas from yard then there are in kingston and a rap record would mash up the set just as much as some capleton.
 

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wtf does doing hip hop culture mean? How do you do a culture?
Ya playing dumb, but answer this, how can rap come from West Indian influence if no one even knew what krs one was doing with his flow, and Scott la rock told him no one wanted to hear that reggae shyt? Remember.this was the mid 80's , so how can they be doing it in the early 70s like you claim, if no one wanted to hear west indian music?Listen to him, not me

Go to 58:52
 

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I know he wants to spearhead another agenda and repeat fba until his head spins but this is not a road he wants to travel.

Now "fba" needs to fight over social media over who started hip hop

Before "fba" needed to worry about who playing some roles in white owned ass Hollywood

You want to worry about someone stealing our culture? Why dont you worry more about the people who own and control the institutions that put out the product that earns billions while exploiting the participants of the culture. But that sounds too much like a fight

So let's fight over who was break dancing 1st smh

Actually, all are important. Our culture and our claim for reparations and ethnic identity.

We see what happens when we let others claim and tell our stories. They include themselves and downplay us in every way possible.

If you don't lay the claim - then you can't fight those you are asking us to fight. They will say it aint ours to claim or have.
 

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I noticed there are barely any mainstream Latino rappers.

You'd think if they co-created hiphop, there would be way more of them...

lmfao cacs control the mainstream so not sure where you’re going with that. And Is Cardi B not a mainstream Latino? Fab and Jim Jones have Latino ancestry too while you can debate on whether they are mainstream or not?
 

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You do know herc never toasted, that was coke la rock(black american),

AND toasting is nothing but jive talking, Jamaicans got it from American radio did when they would picknl up the radio signals from florida.

Herc had little things he'd say over his mixes. I'm not crediting him with starting that.
 

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Not one word from the architects, just someone making up shyt like yall:russ:

People got it from the artist themselves. That's been said numerous times in here already, iirc I heard Kool Herc say it on Combat Jack or something similar
DO THE RESEARCH like you telling ppl to do

AADOS soul music artist like James Brown were dubbing records before King Tubby and any other Jamaican artist.
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/dub...-it-was-birthed-in-the-usa-soul-scene.322801/

Did he do it in the parks of NYC with turntables and a microphone
:what:

According to yall reaching ass logic, hip hop wasn't created in the 70s in NYC like pretty much anyone will tell you
According to yall it was created by James Brown in some random midwest cac owned recording studio :dwillhuh:

The architects of hip hop have explicitly said where they got their influence from, cry about it
 

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lmfao cacs control the mainstream so not sure where you’re going with that. And Is Cardi B not a mainstream Latino? Fab and Jim Jones have Latino ancestry too while you can debate on whether they are mainstream or not?
Cardi B is part Trinidadian although she reps her Dominican side more. Either way she is only ONE artist and a female artist at that. Fab and Jim been out the game for so long lol and those two hardly repped their Latin side I even heard some Dominicans complaining that Fab hardly reps Dominican years back. More importantly I can't think of ANY RECENT(i.e this decade) mainstream Latin American male rapper outside of 69(who is now locked up). I would argue since the 2010s and Southern Hip Hop becoming more dominate we have seen a significant decline in Latino Hip Hop artists. Cardi B and 69 are just TWO this past decade..... Maybe that can change? Who knows?
 
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