The Tariq Nasheed Thread

[Rakim Allah]

When pan africanism was hot, tariq was all over it. Grinning while making african docs and hanging out in Haiti making a slavery doc.

Now that ADOS became a thing, tariq flipped the hustle and has his own brand of it

Thanks to Tariq, ADOS became a “thing”.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I just said the same thing, after Garvey.

Even after garvey the only TRUE pan-africanist/pro black contingent in Jamaica was Rastas. Did you know in the 1960s they were trying to keep Black Power rhetoric out of Jamaica and other places in the Caribbean?

Spoiler

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Dumbass, he's obviously talking about cultural blackness as it relates to descendants of slaves NATIVE to mainland USA.

^^2 drastically different phenotypes bound together by african ancestry and a shared experience makes them closer to one another than they would to any "black" outsider regardless of phenotype

Cultural blackness

what the fukk ever. I’m focused on who’s actually black not this make believe bullshyt about half jews being more black than our African brothers. Black ain’t a US exclusive title. I been around this world. I see my black brothers and its an instant connection over any other people walking this earth. And you damn right the first thing I see is a black man before I hear a word of accent or about his specific culture.

I see a black republican and he still blacker than a mixed person. Cause his bloodline nikka. I don’t want to hear who’s culture is “black” and which one isn’t. We invented culture. And whatever we deem our culture that came from us, is black too. From Africa to Australia to Asia to America.


fukk outta here with this bullshyt. If you black you fukking black.

 

[Rakim Allah]

Tariq is many on here's daddy..

So he basically put you on a long punishment. Chin up, friend.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Yes they're more Black than them, always have been always will be.

We have more in common with than people who just got here.

I'm not denying I come from a Black African, but acting like I only come from a Black African is the problem. We also come from white people and some native Americans.

Ain't no c00n shyt, biracial people are ADOS and have done more for us than anyone in the Diaspora, historically. But, you wanna switch up now?

Nah, we aren't African and we haven't been African for 500+ years.

I didn’t say we all African. I said we all black. We all came from Africa. Including white people. But we ain’t all black.

I’m really seriously not even entertaining this thought process. I don’t give two flying fukks what your people did in history. Every person is their own person. What did THEY do in their life to automatically make them “blacker” than people who been black all their life? Cause they lived somewhere else?

This is really some weirdo division shyt I ONLY hear from black people. I never heard white man say “oh those mixed breeds are more whiter than white men” or a Chinese man say that. Or a Russian. Or a Brazilian. I been to Brazil so much and so plugged in I can sleep in the favelas and everyone know I’m there and we GOOD. They would never fix their mouths to say I’m more Brazilian or Latin than some white Latin. Def not a black one. And what do they do every damn year to blow out the whole country? Have national black pride weeks and months all year long. Cause they feel they are black.

you go to Africa and they feel they are black. You run up on black man on the goddamn space station and you’ll look right in his face and nod for no other reason but he black.

but now half white people are more black cause they did some shyt some years ago. Do all races of people get these awards? Do something good for us and al members of their race are now black?

You know what you said was silly

 

[HiphopRelated]

Even after garvey the only TRUE pan-africanist/pro black contingent in Jamaica was Rastas. Did you know in the 1960s they were trying to keep Black Power rhetoric out of Jamaica and other places in the Caribbean?

Spoiler

Because black power movements were synonymous with Communism, and the US was assassinating muthafukkas. Most Political parties were either pro US or Pro Russia/Cuba

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Cultural blackness

what the fukk ever.

cultural blackness as in culturally Adosian; the same way someone can be culturally Jamaican, Haitian, Puerto Rican, Igbo, Yoruba etc....

I’m focused on who’s actually black not this make believe bullshyt about half jews being more black than our African brothers. Black ain’t a US exclusive title.

the modern concept of "black" originated in the USA; Africans never identified with that label until they became more Westernized

I been around this world. I see my black brothers and its an instant connection over any other people walking this earth. And you damn right the first thing I see is a black man before I hear a word of accent or about his specific culture.

this is true on a wider scale but within ones respective homeland, all black groups have closer ties with people of their ETHNICITY/TRIBE, first!

I see a black republican and he still blacker than a mixed person. Cause his bloodline nikka. I don’t want to hear who’s culture is “black” and which one isn’t. We invented culture. And whatever we deem our culture that came from us, is black too. From Africa to Australia to Asia to America.

an ados black republican and an ados biracial are closer to eachother than a foreign black republican/foreign black biracial

fukk outta here with this bullshyt. If you black you fukking black.

racially? yes

ethnically the same? no

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

cultural blackness as in culturally Adosian; the same way someone can be culturally Jamaican, Haitian, Puerto Rican, Igbo, Yoruba etc....





the modern concept of "black" originated in the USA; Africans never identified with that label until they became more Westernized




this is true on a wider scale but within ones respective homeland, all black groups have closer ties with people of their ETHNICITY/TRIBE, first!



an ados black republican and an ados biracial are closer to eachother than a foreign black republican/foreign black biracial





racially? yes

ethnically the same? no

I really don’t like arguing with any of y’all. I feel we all want the same thing and that’s kind of my point.

If you have two black parents, then you have lived a different type of life than any other human on earth. There is nothing truly like being BLACK. The black experience.


Things like where you were born don’t matter to me.
When I meet you, I see a black man/woman. We are united TO ME. If you want to have your nose up and look at me as not the same, that’s fine. I won’t like it. I won’t fukk with you. But that’s not going to make me look at the next African, Jamaican, Haitian and start off on the wrong foot.

The same mixed people in history that helped, are the same white people who helped, are the same foreign blacks who helped, bet there was probably some Latin homies and natives and all that. You’re not going to be “blacker” than a black man. I have mixed people in my family. If they claim black, they are AS black as me. They ain’t “blacker” than anybody. Nobody’s culture is “blacker” than anybody’s. African black culture ain’t blacker than ours and ours ain’t blacker than Jamaicans. We all were slaves at some point. We all had white people fukking us up. We all still in trouble, no matter which country you point to.

That’s all I’m saying. Call it Pan Africanism or “we all the same”. But I’m on the we all the same side. There’s gonna be c00ns in all cultures all well. I won’t throw out an entire set of black people, pretty much ever. I’m not going to say linking up with other blacks is dead. So what’s the alternative after we say fukk them?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Things like where you were born don’t matter to me.
When I meet you, I see a black man/woman. We are united TO ME. If you want to have your nose up and look at me as not the same, that’s fine. I won’t like it. I won’t fukk with you. But that’s not going to make me look at the next African, Jamaican, Haitian and start off on the wrong foot.

agreed

The same mixed people in history that helped, are the same white people who helped, are the same foreign blacks who helped, bet there was probably some Latin homies and natives and all that. You’re not going to be “blacker” than a black man. I have mixed people in my family. If they claim black, they are AS black as me.

mixed ADOS aren't simply "people who helped", they're actually blood kin to darker/more unmixed ados; I wouldn't put people like

in the same boat as people from other races/foreign lands as they have/share the same blood of MAINLAND usa slaves as darker ADOS

They ain’t “blacker” than anybody. Nobody’s culture is “blacker” than anybody’s. African black culture ain’t blacker than ours and ours ain’t blacker than Jamaicans. We all were slaves at some point. We all had white people fukking us up. We all still in trouble, no matter which country you point to.

the correct term instead of "blacker", is simply more ADOS/AfroAmerican/FBA

That’s all I’m saying. Call it Pan Africanism or “we all the same”. But I’m on the we all the same side. There’s gonna be c00ns in all cultures all well. I won’t throw out an entire set of black people, pretty much ever. I’m not going to say linking up with other blacks is dead. So what’s the alternative after we say fukk them?

true

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Because black power movements were synonymous with Communism, and the US was assassinating muthafukkas. Most Political parties were either pro US or Pro Russia/Cuba

...nah, the real reason is because Jamaica/carib ran on 3 tier caste system dynamics and didn't want their citizens' black consciousness to be awakened; Garvey spoke on this:

 

[dj-method-x]

Malcom X would be rolling in his grave watching you dumb ass nikkas be against the unification of black people world wide.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Malcom X would be rolling in his grave watching you dumb ass nikkas be against the unification of black people world wide.

Pure FACTS

 

[Rakim Allah]

Malcom X would be rolling in his grave watching you dumb ass nikkas be against the unification of black people world wide.

So that would mean he’s been rolling over in his grave for decades.

 

[Cadillac]

Well I’m glad you’re the determining factor on which white people are blacker than black people with black dna from our African continent

A biracial person is more black in america than any african, Blackness itself is just a social concept stupid, so it changes from place to place.

blackness and race in general is as arbitrary as ethnicity, class, etc. its just a way for humans to divide themselves like the others

fukking shameful. Half white people “more black” cause of what they did in life. Sounds like those racist ass white people who spit 16 bars and say they more black than the nerdy black that watches anime.

dude you having a meltdown or something, you just rambling now, yes. Infact lets do this. Do you think a African is "blacker" than the avg ADOS? yes or no?

In what fukking world do we determine blackness, not by what you yourself has done. But what all the people who are half breeds have done, births you into a status of “blacker than Africans” by no fukking acts but fukking/marrying a black man

I have no idea what you trying to say with this drivel, ill just say what i been saying Peanut is more black than any of them Africans and caribbeans yall nikkas be clinging on to.



its clear your mind is not mature to have adult conversations. Take your sporadic dumbass self back to the Arcadium and talk video games little boy.

 

[Cadillac]

You’re a confused moron. Talk less and listen more (not more Tariq hoe babble though)

I dont talk to lame ass nikkas that can't even get p*ssy from their own wife.

Shut your corny ass up