The truth about women not being "protected".

[Serious]

It intersects with gender though in strange ways though because if you read the report, this is being perpetrated by Black folks in damaging ways as well.

I mean I believe it. Heck a lot the dudes on here believe bw are super promiscuous and shyt.

BW have reputation of being loose or promiscuous, when my dealings with bw say otherwise. A lot bw are way more conservative in their sexuality and dealings in relationships than non bw. They aren’t afforded the same luxury.

I back this by saying I’ve encountered way too bw throughout my life that were virgins after 21+ and / or have no had a serious relationship.

So the stereotypes don’t really hold to much weight.

Plus we’ve seen the over policing of bw, from even within higher end. I’ve seen videos of law enforcement body slamming a 15 year old girl. A sight that you’d never see happen to a little white girl.

 

[HarlemHottie]

I think it's a bit disingenuous to compare Black Americans to other communities that have been oppressed and liberated.

I refuse to shyt on us as a group cuz we barely free, but our ancestors knew how to find succor in each other despite the wm and his machinations. Why can't we?!

 

[TaxCollector13459]

Well honestly that just makes me sad. Just because no one gave you the respect and sympathy you deserved doesn't mean we should be acting like our oppressors when talking about our own. Sometimes being a victim means learning that dysfunction is normal, and if no one corrects that, you continue the cycle.

So its not her fault saying herself to millions of the masses she don't need a black man, she isn't gonna cooperate with her nikka. She independent, head honcho boss. It's not her fault she was naked in a car with a dude with a history of relationship violence. Its her bodyguard fault for not being there to stop her from being a thot, fukk he doing eating dinner with his family?? Black woman needed his protection, fukk personal responsibilities...

So..Meg would rather us come on sm and say..
I agree, we men be fukking up too long and we need to start bussing heads, we need to buss unks, brother cousins, heads to the white meat. Will the women be putting money on our books at least? Fukk that we good, we goin finance the protection.

 

[MajesticLion]

There’s nothing wrong with admitting we need each other.

 

[SupremexKing]

That seems to be the slight consensus.

So let it be known, matter of factly, not sassy and petty: 'if it look like she belong to the streets, Ima leave her in the streets. I can only go by what you show me. '

Bc, as of now, the vast majority of you are repeating: 'i only gaf about my female relatives and wives', and thats only if you just so happen to be present at that time.

As an extremely well protected, even coddled, woman, low key, even i be forced to look at y'all funny. And i dont want to! Thank God i go out (corona notwithstanding).

you're speaking as though the majority of these females move/dress in a manner that one would commonly associate with self respect.

then you boil it down even further, there's alot of internalized c00nery popping off with bw, even the ones who are appear to be deserving of respect. (not speaking on the men because we're talking about women here)

 

[Ziggiy]

I've been hearing a lot from black women saying they aren't protected , this isn't a bash thread but I want these women to realize something men have known for awhile now. Protection ain't free, it doesn't come as a standard feature just because you're a woman and just because I'm a man. That be like me expecting submission from every woman I come across.

Protection is reserved for family, wives, girlfriends and those in need of protection as I deem it.

No man can protect a woman from herself. The problem with the sentiment that all black men need to protect black woman is that it's fundamentally taking a patriarchal approach to a world that doesn't value men for being patriarchs , but I guess patriarchy is ok as long as it's the benevolent kind , furthermore , it's a misnomer to assume all black women support black men by default, there are plenty of outliers who can attest to this baseless presumption.

As a man, defending every woman's honour is a costly and foolish endeavor, shootout to Merlin Santana. Furthermore, if Meg truly wanted , then it would probably make the most sense for (and other women) to pursue relationships with men who are protectors. Think of an actor, bodyguard, military contractor, lawyer, etc. Or some kind of man with a good track record of treating women. Her dating record suggest otherwise, you can't help being attracted to who you like, but there are always red flags.

I've noticed that women choose men like Mr. Lanez for certain reasons, Mr. Lanez is not a patriarchal man in the sense of being a traditional protector/provider, I understand that Tory Lanez is the fun time guy, you can smoke all the weed, do all the coke, twerk all day and be as free and ratchet as she wants to be around him, whereas other men who are serious about wives would judge her and check her for being a "hot girl" . However, you can't expect Mr. Lanez to be something he never was, and she chose him for that reason, because she wanted a Bobby brown for her Whitney. Except Bobby actually loved Whitney. This is just a no strings attached arrangement from a non patriarchal inclined man.

Expecting that is not so radical at all. It be like a black men exclusively dating women who frequently exchange their bodies for currency and then complaining about gold diggers and whores, it's nonsensical.

This is a take I honestly never really thought about IN that way.


I think that black women who LEGITIMATELY have a gripe are having their concerns and thoughts co-opted by a certain segment of bitter black women who chose the wrong nikka and two kids, three misdemeanors, and a broken jaw later want to scream “ALL BLACK MEN AIN’T shyt!” Which is simply wrong.

The same thing for black men.


At the end of the day Black men NEED black women and vice versa. There is no black race WITHOUT us. I’ve found myself getting frustrated with recent examples of black men just losing their damn minds and doing outright SAVAGE shyt to black women because it makes us all look crazy. Like the Tory Lanez shyt REALLY got under my skin because it all just seems so ludicrous that you’d expect a black man living in THESE times to have more common sense than to fukking SHOOT a black woman the middle of the damn street.


At the end of the day black women DO need protection from white supremacy, and I firmly believe it is the job of nobody else but BLACK MEN to provide that. And we also have to police OURSELVES in CERTAIN situations so as not to continually feed into the stereotype of us not caring or giving a damn.

Black women for their part, need to understand that they won’t be granted sympathy just because they chose to entangle themselves with a bum ass nikka who has displayed nothing BUT the characteristics of a bum ass nikka and got bum ass results. Respect is a two way street

 

[HarlemHottie]

you're speaking as though the majority of these females move/dress in a manner that one would commonly associate with self respect.

No im not. Im speaking as if the majority of bw have been socialized to be thots, educated or not. A lot of them legit believe that yall wont be interested if they DON'T look like thots.

If bm lay down the law, bw who want a man will follow it, the end.

 

[SupremexKing]

This is the root cause of why I made the are you willing to die alone thread bc I'm ready, if a level headed non thotting relatively educated black woman isn't on the table I'll ride off into the sunset dolo

where they at?

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Y'all are talking past each other. It's not about defending your lady bc your lady (or moms or whatever) ain't with you all the time. The only way "protecting our women" worked traditionally, much less in a modern world where women move around freely, is if ALL the men of x group decide to protect ALL women of x group.

Yall could maybe start by discussing some physical markers of in group status since our communities are too big to know the details of every woman you walk by. Nothing crazy. It can start as simple as, 'our women don't wear unnatural hair colors, so we know those aint ours. '

Black men protect all black women?

A lot of women don't want a man's guidance. Daddy told them not to date ole boy, but they do it anyway. A lot of these women love danger boys. A lot of women want to open their legs freely to any man they want. Well, with freedom comes great responsibility

So no, the only women we're protecting is loved ones. I'll call the police and let them handle it

 

[K.O.N.Y]

You miss my point. Currently, as a traditional woman, I'm protected by 98% of bm i encounter. I have little to no fear in these streets (but I'm still on point tho), and nikkas don't do me dirty. Why? Bc i look like a respectable woman. I have literally had nikkas give me that look like shyt about to pop and tell me, 'go in the store, ma. '

So, obviously, bm have some protective instinct. The question becomes how can you tell if a given woman is worthy of protection? Physical markers.

That's how everybody else distinguishes between different classes of their own women. Treat hoes like hoes and respectable women like respectable women. Men are 'allowed' to set standards and limits on their protection.

if we had a fully culturally enforced system like this

Than meg would still be assed out

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

You miss my point. Currently, as a traditional woman, I'm protected by 98% of bm i encounter. I have little to no fear in these streets (but I'm still on point tho), and nikkas don't do me dirty. Why? Bc i look like a respectable woman. I have literally had nikkas give me that look like shyt about to pop and tell me, 'go in the store, ma. '

So, obviously, bm have some protective instinct. The question becomes how can you tell if a given woman is worthy of protection? Physical markers.

That's how everybody else distinguishes between different classes of their own women. Treat hoes like hoes and respectable women like respectable women. Men are 'allowed' to set standards and limits on their protection.

The difference between you and these birds is that you aren't getting yourself in those situations. Of course I'll protect you.

 

[NobodyReally]

I guess I don't understand your point. You say you're not shytting on us but then you also we need to do what our ancestors did and find succor in each other despite the wm and his machinations. I think we are doing that. This new movement, uprising is evidence that we can come together. I do still think you can come together while working on problems that are present in the community. It doesn't have to be either/or. I'm really skeptical about using Twitter as a barometer for every day black folk beliefs and interactions.A lot of Black folks don't even use Twitter, lol. I take all of these posts and tweets with a grain of salt in terms of being representative. Anyway, I think we're in agreement.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Black men protect all black women?

Not at all. Certain bm protect certain bw, identifiable by something yall decide on, until it expands to ppl acting right. Im suggesting active social engineering, noi shyt without the religion.

if we had a fully culturally enforced system like this

Than meg would still be assed out

Exactly.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Not at all. Certain bm protect certain bw, identifiable by something yall decide on, until it expands to ppl acting right. Im suggesting active social engineering, noi shyt without the religion.


Exactly.

This is the exact key

And black American men have the power of influence to do this.

Alot of last missing the point in here

 

[HarlemHottie]

I guess I don't understand your point

We probably are broadly in agreement.

My overall point was, we have to take control of ourselves. The wm gon do what the wm do. Aside from that, we have to re gather, re group, and plan for the future.

Wallowing in the mess the wm will not help us. We have to move along in order to be viable.