The truth about women not being "protected".

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The black women aren't protected bullshyt thats been going on is really a byproduct of the divest/lesbian/Bell Hooks wing of nikkasaintshytism religion.


NOBODY is more protected than a black mama. NOBODY. Its nikkas that are willing to go to the grave today for their mama. Most black men protect the women that are in their life. How many black men are in jail right now because they were fighting or killing over a black woman? We not even going to get into sisters or daughters......because i would kill for my lil girls to keep them safe.

But thats real life. Alot of these NoName and LSA types dont think about real life. They think about celebs and social media.

Their version of "protect black women" is nikkas going on twitter crusades for z-list celebs or some random nikka on social media making a c00n ass joke. That's their version of protection. And there is also a segment of black women (women in general tbh) that lacks accountability. They make choices based on impulse and they wind up in the situations they are in chasing the wrong shyt. Then they want a nikka to be on standby, stranger or not, to bail them out of an impending ass whuppin they done walked into. Protect black women for them means, stick up for me even when i make foolish ass short minded decisions.

My problem with your statement is that you assume because you are protective and have honor everyone does. I've worked with rape and sexual abuse survivors in *our* community. Most of them never tell anyone else, but us, and it's rare they even come to us. Who knows how many are out there keeping it to themselves. There are a lot of black girls and women who know better than to be in a room alone with the men in their house because they won't be believed if something happens. It's not an indictment against all black men, but there's a problem here we're not addressing. There are too many black girls and women who have been touched by a dirtbag uncle/mama's boyfriend/daddy's friend in our community. We don't like to talk about it but it's a problem. Acting like it's rare isn't really helping us. These complaints are not coming out of nowhere. A lot of adult women have been touched inappropriately and it's fukked up their sense of trust, rightfully or unjustly. People can dismiss this as the rants of "bitter women", but until we start really talking about sexual abuse and rape and violence in our community, it's gonna keep poisoning all of us in the worst ways.
 

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Well dang... what breh says in his OP is true at its premise

Women demand protection from men without realizing that with that protection comes women obeying the men they seek protection from.

Which they do not want to do. So they want the benefits of protection from us without taking what they consider to be the negatives (submission etc)

I agree wholeheartedly.

:ohhh::ohhh:

Your post tells me one thing: Women need guidance.

Truth hurts and women don't want to admit it, but they need those old school gender roles. If black women say they need protection, the truth is in the pudding, you need black men to guide you. Because protection is just that, guidance.


What happened to strong women, don't need men, and equality:jbhmm::jbhmm:
 
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True, but I meant as far as people not looking at black women as victims. Society ain't never looked at me as a black man a victim. So its hard for me to really let this shyt slide, especially when it coulda been avoided.

If you get ya azz blamed riding with the wrong cats, aint gonna be nun of this

Well honestly that just makes me sad. Just because no one gave you the respect and sympathy you deserved doesn't mean we should be acting like our oppressors when talking about our own. Sometimes being a victim means learning that dysfunction is normal, and if no one corrects that, you continue the cycle.
 

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I do agree that options are better today than yesteryear, but many Black women have such low sense of self-worth that they aren’t taking those options which is tragic IMO.
So whose responsibility is that? Note: i didn't say 'fault.' It's bw's responsibility to make sure they're mentally sound. Same for bm.

This is like living in a war torn country where yall shyt got rocked, arguing among the sexes as to whose fault it was, and deciding, fukk it, let's all give in to the conquerors. That's where we are, like Jews worshipping the golden calf. :beli:

Bm and bw need to pull their heads out of their asses and focus in the basics of a community: family, religion, charitable endeavors, etc. Cuz this back and forth blame game is bs and low key agent shyt (not saying you, sis, just everybody).
 

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So whose responsibility is that? Note: i didn't say 'fault.' It's bw's responsibility to make sure they're mentally sound. Same for bm.

This is like living in a war torn country where yall shyt got rocked, arguing among the sexes as to whose fault it was, and deciding, fukk it, let's all give in to the conquerors. That's where we are, like Jews worshipping the golden calf. :beli:

Bm and bw need to pull their heads out of their asses and focus in the basics of a community: family, religion, charitable endeavors, etc. Cuz this back and forth blame game is bs and low key agent shyt (not saying you, sis, just everybody).

Yeah but people don't just wake up one morning and have self respect and self esteem. Especially if they have been damaged. That takes some work and support. We have to do a better job of taking care of each other, building each other up, instead of pointing out our flaws.
 

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I've been hearing a lot from black women saying they aren't protected , this isn't a bash thread but I want these women to realize something men have known for awhile now. Protection ain't free, it doesn't come as a standard feature just because you're a woman and just because I'm a man. That be like me expecting submission from every woman I come across.

Protection is reserved for family, wives, girlfriends and those in need of protection as I deem it.

No man can protect a woman from herself. The problem with the sentiment that all black men need to protect black woman is that it's fundamentally taking a patriarchal approach to a world that doesn't value men for being patriarchs , but I guess patriarchy is ok as long as it's the benevolent kind , furthermore , it's a misnomer to assume all black women support black men by default, there are plenty of outliers who can attest to this baseless presumption.

As a man, defending every woman's honour is a costly and foolish endeavor, shootout to Merlin Santana. Furthermore, if Meg truly wanted , then it would probably make the most sense for (and other women) to pursue relationships with men who are protectors. Think of an actor, bodyguard, military contractor, lawyer, etc. Or some kind of man with a good track record of treating women. Her dating record suggest otherwise, you can't help being attracted to who you like, but there are always red flags.

I've noticed that women choose men like Mr. Lanez for certain reasons, Mr. Lanez is not a patriarchal man in the sense of being a traditional protector/provider, I understand that Tory Lanez is the fun time guy, you can smoke all the weed, do all the coke, twerk all day and be as free and ratchet as she wants to be around him, whereas other men who are serious about wives would judge her and check her for being a "hot girl" . However, you can't expect Mr. Lanez to be something he never was, and she chose him for that reason, because she wanted a Bobby brown for her Whitney. Except Bobby actually loved Whitney. This is just a no strings attached arrangement from a non patriarchal inclined man.

Expecting that is not so radical at all. It be like a black men exclusively dating women who frequently exchange their bodies for currency and then complaining about gold diggers and whores, it's nonsensical.

so basically, fukk these bytches :ehh:

I agree with what you wrote wholeheartedly
 

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Meg the Stallion's journey reads like a coli comic book
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An anime loving college educated black woman who had a plethora of sensible black men to choose from yet somehow ended up with a known drug dealer who has 8 kids with 5 different women. (Off topic, but black men are given the horrible label of being deadbeat fathers, when in reality these broads are having kids with the SAME men and almost 50% of black men DONT EVEN HAVE KIDS yet have to deal with being given this label smh, but that's a discussion for another day).

She turns into a superthot, makes hoodrat music for ratchets and ends up hanging around riff raffs like tory Lanez (a man whose domestic violence has been documented). She puts herself in a horrible situation, ends up getting shot and predictably goes on social media to shyt on black men and ask for their protection. These are the same men who she constantly reminds in her lyrics how she will scam them out of their money and how they have to run criminal enterprises to have access to her. :mjlol:

Of course The entire sisterhood, filled with women whose decision making skills share a similar trajectory as Megan, applauded her and are regurgitating the same bullshyt all over social media with their white supremacist cronies smiling as they do so. And once again, normal and non criminal black men are being shyt on for the millionth time for doing absolutely nothing. :francis:

In a predictable twist, the constant bashing and unnecessary hatred thrown towards black men only turns future generations of black men off from not just these specific women, but an entire community that allows such nonsensical cycles to continue without being confronted. This is no more evident than generation z, whose entire lives are on social media.

There are some serious issues that need to be confronted in our communities, but this online "Black women arent protected by black men" BS is all code, what they want to say is there ain't enough black male simps to come save them from the horrible decisions they've made (and will make again) in their lives.

It doesnt matter if respectable black men united today, and created a law that forbade these thugs from coming into our communities, these broads will still somehow find a way to cavort with these riff raffs and once used, and abused, will request some simp to cape for them :francis:
 
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So basically we getting treated the same still at the end of the day
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It’s cognitive dissonance. But the flip side if that as long as you’re not one of those black individuals that is that Is highly skeptical or judges other black through a suspicious lens, then it makes you mentally superior to call people out on their bs.
 

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My problem with your statement is that you assume because you are protective and have honor everyone does. I've worked with rape and sexual abuse survivors in *our* community. Most of them never tell anyone else, but us, and it's rare they even come to us. Who knows how many are out there keeping it to themselves. There are a lot of black girls and women who know better than to be in a room alone with the men in their house because they won't be believed if something happens. It's not an indictment against all black men, but there's a problem here we're not addressing. There are too many black girls and women who have been touched by a dirtbag uncle/mama's boyfriend/daddy's friend in our community. We don't like to talk about it but it's a problem. Acting like it's rare isn't really helping us. These complaints are not coming out of nowhere. A lot of adult women have been touched inappropriately and it's fukked up their sense of trust, rightfully or unjustly. People can dismiss this as the rants of "bitter women", but until we start really talking about sexual abuse and rape and violence in our community, it's gonna keep poisoning all of us in the worst ways.

Well now you are getting into something that is on the dark underbelly of all communities. You talking to someone who worked as a teacher and also within the Department of Family and Child Services. Im not about to start quoting stats but unfortunately child abuse and sexual assault is a issue that transcends race. Its some sick ass people out there. Lil boys and girls are being touched and nothing is being done about it. Teachers, priests, pastors, parents.......etc etc. So when you say thats a issue i can wholeheartedly agree, however I dont know if its a blk community issue that the average black person can do something about. If i see a child being abused or hear about it, i will of course report that or do some street justice. Most rational adult males are not going to let that shyt slide IF they know its happening.
 

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I think some women are talking about multiple areas.. Black women dying in childbirth is actually a big topic amongst black women.


But if you want to relegate it to violence then I’ll say that stats show that BW are #1 in homicides against women, #1 in domestic violence against women...

Black women think black men pose a bigger threat to us then anyone else and they use the stats to back it up and even when I tell them that most violence against women is by men of their own race, their go to is that it’s higher amongst black women.


I don’t think they’re asking for black men to step up and protect them when they’re being attacked but for black men to stop attacking them.

That’s my take on it.


No they aren't talking about multiple areas. They want us to be Batman and save them from their bad decisions.:pachaha:

I mean what else could they talk about, because last time I checked you're putting your life on the line messing with any black man's Mother, Wife, Daughter, Sister, etc.:manny:

You probably haven't come to the conclusion yet, but the fact of the matter is, most women on social media are brain dead birds. I understand why you're defending them, but you're defending lost causes.
 

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Yeah but people don't just wake up one morning and have self respect and self esteem. Especially if they have been damaged. That takes some work and support. We have to do a better job of taking care of each other, building each other up, instead of pointing out our flaws.
See my last post, but, understand, as a historian, i have a lot of examples of ethnic groups pulling themselves back together after being conquered. I refuse to shyt on us as a group cuz we barely free, but our ancestors knew how to find succor in each other despite the wm and his machinations. Why can't we?!

And, tbh, at this point, i don't even care about the why, let's just get on with it. :aicmon:
 

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Theres a fundamental disconnect

Its immature dudes out here trying to get a woman who will basically be their maid and cook who will never call them out on any bad behaviour or habits and have sex on command

Its immature women out here who want "equality" but will never date a man who matches their height or income level and who will paradoxically "handle" her "sassy" behavior while at the same time not being "controlling" or "judging". They want equality while shytting on black men and then will flip and say they need to be "protected" either you're a leader and the equal of men and need no protection, or you're not. Is it one mic?

At the end of the day if you're a man what you should be looking for is a person who will bring good energy into your life, and as a member of the black community you should be concerned only about black life. If you give up some money or risk your life, you're doing it for the kids out there, the seniors, the weak, the undereducated, the sick. The people who genuinely need shielding and protection. There are a lot of women out there who are about that and will put money up or will use whatever tools they have to stay on code for the goal of preserving black life in general.

Everything else is just extra. It's like when people say "black lives matter" then you hear people trying to muddy the waters saying "black trans life matters" "black women lives matter" "black alphabet lives matter". That's all beside the original point. Black LIFE regardless of background matters. There is no need to have separate conversations about these other things when the whole point is that for a racist it's ON SIGHT. They dont care about anything else. A klansman wont hesitate to lynch you because you're a woman or an alphabet.

If every limb tries to move in a different direction the body goes nowhere.
 

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Well now you are getting into something that is on the dark underbelly of all communities. You talking to someone who worked as a teacher and also within the Department of Family and Child Services. Im not about to start quoting stats but unfortunately child abuse and sexual assault is a issue that transcends race. Its some sick ass people out there. Lil boys and girls are being touched and nothing is being done about it. Teachers, priests, pastors, parents.......etc etc. So when you say thats a issue i can wholeheartedly agree, however I dont know if its a blk community issue that the average black person can do something about. If i see a child being abused or hear about it, i will of course report that or do some street justice. Most rational adult males are not going to let that shyt slide IF they know its happening.

I think I don't care about other races. I care about how we are addressing it. I brought that issue up because I feel like we're doing a shyt job of taking care of our own in that respect, both genders. We need to be more vigilante and vocal about it. I commend your spirit, but I don't think a lot of people want to even talk about the issue and acknowledge how it affects the way people develop and interact with others later in life. If you start off with dsyfunction, you think it's normal or you try to create more of it and surround yourself with it. People want people to magically get better once they leave the house, it doesn't work like that.

See my last post, but, understand, as a historian, i have a lot of examples of ethnic groups pulling themselves back together after being conquered. I refuse to shyt on us as a group cuz we barely free, but our ancestors knew how to find succor in each other despite the wm and his machinations. Why can't we?!

And, tbh, at this point, i don't even care about the why, let's just get on with it. :aicmon:

I think it's a bit disingenuous to compare Black Americans to other communities that have been oppressed and liberated. I'd love to see more data on how much time has passed between these communities' oppression and their liberation and success. We're always compared to civilizations and communities that have had generations to build. We just got voting rights. My parents grew up in segregated communities. To say "why aren't you like Jews?" or why aren't you like whoever else made it over is nuts. It's literally been 50 years. Anthropologically speaking, who has overcome all of their systematic oppression in 50 years, I'd love to hear more about those people.
 
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