The truth about women not being "protected".

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I've been hearing a lot from black women saying they aren't protected , this isn't a bash thread but I want these women to realize something men have known for awhile now. Protection ain't free, it doesn't come as a standard feature just because you're a woman and just because I'm a man. That be like me expecting submission from every woman I come across.

Protection is reserved for family, wives, girlfriends and those in need of protection as I deem it.

No man can protect a woman from herself. The problem with the sentiment that all black men need to protect black woman is that it's fundamentally taking a patriarchal approach to a world that doesn't value men for being patriarchs , but I guess patriarchy is ok as long as it's the benevolent kind , furthermore , it's a misnomer to assume all black women support black men by default, there are plenty of outliers who can attest to this baseless presumption.

As a man, defending every woman's honour is a costly and foolish endeavor, shootout to Merlin Santana. Furthermore, if Meg truly wanted , then it would probably make the most sense for (and other women) to pursue relationships with men who are protectors. Think of an actor, bodyguard, military contractor, lawyer, etc. Or some kind of man with a good track record of treating women. Her dating record suggest otherwise, you can't help being attracted to who you like, but there are always red flags.

I've noticed that women choose men like Mr. Lanez for certain reasons, Mr. Lanez is not a patriarchal man in the sense of being a traditional protector/provider, I understand that Tory Lanez is the fun time guy, you can smoke all the weed, do all the coke, twerk all day and be as free and ratchet as she wants to be around him, whereas other men who are serious about wives would judge her and check her for being a "hot girl" . However, you can't expect Mr. Lanez to be something he never was, and she chose him for that reason, because she wanted a Bobby brown for her Whitney. Except Bobby actually loved Whitney. This is just a no strings attached arrangement from a non patriarchal inclined man.

Expecting that is not so radical at all. It be like a black men exclusively dating women who frequently exchange their bodies for currency and then complaining about gold diggers and whores, it's nonsensical.
Right. Don't let these bytches guilt and gaslight you into being a simp. Like you said, "protection" (whatever that means) is reserved for the women I have a deep and personal relationship with.
 

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They want a “diet patriarchy”. They want it when it suits them. They want to be protected, but they don’t want to obey you. You'll tell them to do something, and they’ll question you about it or outright disobey you. How can a man protect a woman who won’t listen to him?

A while back I was watching some movie on NF, where there was an intruder in a couple’s house. The husband told his wife to do something, and she didn’t follow his directions, and as a result, the situation turned even worse for them. This is a perfect example of the lack of respect that men face from women who they actually try to protect.

At the end of the day, the women who act right and choose right, will get protected, and the ones who don’t... well it’s a coin toss. If the women in our community want to be protected as a whole, then the way they treat men will have to change. They are the ones who broke the social contract between us and them, not us.
Damn brehs going hard in this thread:wow:
 

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I can guarantee you alot of them women yapping that shyt wouldn't even fukk with a dude thats actually would protect them, be loyal to them because thats too "boring" Either that or because he don't have the "swagger" or "charisma".

Alot of them broads(esp the Meg the Stallion types) seek and put themselves around chaos because its exciting to them.Then want a square to take a bullet for em when it gets really real out there out of the code of "protecting the queens"
You don't get caught up in shootings and drama when you date Poindexter the IT geek with 6 certs, but I guess he's not exciting or appealing enough to women who want pRoTeCtioN
 

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You don't get caught up in shootings and drama when you date Poindexter the IT geek with 6 certs, but I guess he's not exciting or appealing enough to women who want pRoTeCtioN
This is the root cause of why I made the are you willing to die alone thread bc I'm ready, if a level headed non thotting relatively educated black woman isn't on the table I'll ride off into the sunset dolo
 

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The same men who preach SUBMISSION all day long are also some of the same men who want to beat black women’s asses. So are we gonna be honest, or do I have to be the bad guy once again and say what we not willing to admit to.

Plenty of those traditional black women who “submitted” back in the day were getting their asses beaten by our grandfathers, getting children molested, getting cheated on, and those women who “SUBMITTED” just took it. Didn’t say a word. Hell even Dave Chappelle talked about blk women keeping these secrets.

So please miss me with the whole “if u want protection, u gotta submit” when you still holding a dikk wall of silence and are unwilling to call out the dudes in our culture who DO fukk up ur women, all while talking about blk female accountability when many have none for themselves. Women in traditional submissive relationships worldwide get their asses beat. In fact, some of these SUBMIT stooges feel like it’s their right. So already you fukked up with that mentality. Try again.

As for black women, this is going to hurt to acknowledge, but we have NEVER been protected in this country. Not when we were stripped naked and sold on an auction block, not when our children were ripped away from us and used as gator bait, not when we were raped and beaten like men, not when our husbands were lynched and we were hanging from trees.

Our image has never been protected, even as we see some blk men themselves join in to call other races of women submissive and glorify a version of femininity that black women aren’t afforded an opportunity to display. A white woman can fukk a dog, call for a black man to be lynched, be a whore and a porn star, and many in the world including some of our men will STILL pull out a cape in her PAWG defense, but get disgusted at a blk female rocking a weave, even as she feeds him, keeps him from being homeless, raised him when his father went to the store for some cigarettes and takes care of him in his old age.

Our motherhood isn’t protected, as we are experimented on, left alone to die on the childbirth table 3 times more than non-black women. Our bodies and young black girls aren’t protected. Thanks R. Kelly and those who are more willing to call a young girl fast instead of calling out grown ass men who go to the hood to hunt underage girls (And boys) like they trolling for impoverished people to exploit in 3rd world countries.

Smash and dash and pimp culture being glorified in our communities means ZERO accountability for men many who start grooming desperate poor black girls at early ages, while blaming black women for everything. And the worse part is, if black women complain or even say anything, it’s taken as black male hate or bashing.

But guess what? Black men aren’t protected either. Protection and safety comes only exists for whites within white supremacy b/c they are the apex predators of the world.

Saying black women aren’t protected isn’t an indictment of all black men. It’s just a statement of fact when you are racially the farthest from those who represent the pinnacle of power: a white man. Black women get fukked over by white supremacy and some black men and by Black women themselves as much as we don’t want to admit it. And some Black women don’t protect themselves.

So instead of getting emotional about this, just be honest. None of these realities are good black men and black women’s faults. Black men aren’t protected either and some of black women’s behaviors compound their vulnerability if we being REALLY real.

To combat these issues, more blk men risking their lives isn’t the answer, b/c many already do. When I tell black women that they have to learn to protect themselves, that’s not throwing shade at black men. That’s telling people who are physically vulnerable to start putting themselves first. Vet the hell out of men in your circle. Fukk their feelings. Assert yourself. Damn the angry Black woman trope. Don’t have ANYBODY’s babies if they don’t love and cherish you. I don’t care if birthrates drop to the negatives. If they threaten your life, shoot to kill. Get your money up. Stop housing male parasites. Kick him out of your house and off your crib. Stop bringing strangers around your children and crying when they get sexually abused. Stop operating in a deficit mindset when it comes to men and accepting anything b/c you think nobody will want you.

Also protection goes both ways. Black men need your protection too. Keep yourself out of fukked up situations so a black man won’t have to risk his life trying save you from a situation you put urself in. Help keep him out of trouble too.

All of that has to be done by Black women themselves. As for black men protecting Black women, the best way to do this is to stop trying to justify the fukked up shyt some blk men do to black women just b:c you trying to keep a dikk code of silence. Stop thinking shyt sweet with these gangbanger rappers who treated Black women like shyt back in the day just b/c you resonated with their music. Stop trying to adopt alt-right misogyny b/c you not getting the p*ssy you feel like you deserve. Stop putting non-blk women on a pedestal. And if you aren’t guilty of doing any of this, stop getting in the way of accountability for those who are just b/c you don’t want to admit to the fukked up shyt your gender does.
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We can do better. But not if we keep lying to ourselves about our flaws.
 

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You miss my point. Currently, as a traditional woman, I'm protected by 98% of bm i encounter. I have little to no fear in these streets (but I'm still on point tho), and nikkas don't do me dirty. Why? Bc i look like a respectable woman. I have literally had nikkas give me that look like shyt about to pop and tell me, 'go in the store, ma. :birdman:'

So, obviously, bm have some protective instinct. The question becomes how can you tell if a given woman is worthy of protection? Physical markers.

That's how everybody else distinguishes between different classes of their own women. Treat hoes like hoes and respectable women like respectable women. Men are 'allowed' to set standards and limits on their protection.

This is the point of contention. The narrative on social media is that black men should protect any and all black women. So from their perspective, you aren't allowed to have standards or limits.

What is disturbing to me is how this whole discourse started.

1.George Floyd incident happens.
2.Protests occur in MN
3.Riots soon follow
4.The usual suspects come out of the woodwork and state their opinion that there's not enough attention being paid to black women, despite the fact that 90% of the victims of police violence are men.
5. Articles are written to push the narrative that no one cares about black women like Breonna Taylor, despite activism and marches in her name prior to said articles being written
6.Fast forward and that young lady Toyin (BLM protester) is raped and killed in an incident unrelated to the protests.
7. Black women (and probably some white trolls) on Twitter and other social media start to go hard-body on this "Black men don't protect black women" rhetoric and turn Toyin into a martyr, despite the fact that there was no way anyone could even know her situation to protect her if she didn't tell them. Not to mention the fact that she was an autonomous being so you can't just force your protection on her.
8.The same accounts start digging up any random incidents of violence or perceived violence from black men towards black women.
9. Black men don't protect black women narrative starts.

If you follow the chain of events you see that this whole conversation is disingenuous as fukk, and it's main purpose is to divert attention black men are perceived to be getting to black women / trans.

Go into these people's circles, read their discourse and it's glaringly obvious this is the case.

The notion that black men don't protect black women is absurd on its face, and is insulting to all the men who fought, died, or got sent to jail in doing so.

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Chicks who say black men don't protect them are the same ones who say they are girl bosses who make 100k but their men should still cover all the bills and their personal expenses. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want traditional men who'll take care of them but not one who expects the same of them.
 

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Plenty of those traditional black women who “submitted” back in the day were getting their asses beaten by our grandfathers, getting children molested, getting cheated on, and those women who “SUBMITTED” just took it. Didn’t say a word. Hell even Dave Chappelle talked about blk women keeping these secrets.
Yes, but then ain't now. You know good and well, if a bw calls the police on a bm, they coming. :usure:

Bw need to stop having Color Purple flashbacks and acclimate to new conditions. If a nikka is whooping somebody ass, there is a veritable plethora of options. We are not our grandmothers.

Now lets build anew.
 

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This is the point of contention. The narrative on social media is that black men should protect any and all black women. So from their perspective, you aren't allowed to have standards or limits.
I hear everything you saying and i 100% agree, but bmat is a constant drumbeat in the background at this point. Who can say when it stops and starts? :beli:

That's (the bold) bc your cultural 'leaders', rappers, treat us ALL (rhetorically) like hoes undeserving of respect or protection. [Sorry, I don't want rappers leading our boys, but daddy ain't there, so its jew owned radio and the streets (which bm been telling us for decades).] When you talk in ALL terms, distinctions get muddled. So provide clarity.

Women will follow if yall leading. We'd probably actually compete for the privilege, that's what we do. Feminists can't even stop us, so they just gave up sometime btwn the 2nd and 3rd wave. :lolbron: Like i told @Booksnrain, we are not our grandmothers. So don't be using ancient rationalizations on contemporary populations. Lay down some guidelines and see what happens.

I don't mean getting on sm and shytting on bytches that get beat bc xyz. :comeon: I mean, independent of any particular situation, just posting females that look respectable but good, whatever that is to yall, and stating facts. A good number of us will 'cooperate', as long as we see the benefit (protection). Yall benefit by influencing bw to present a certain way, thereby elevating your potential pool of partners. Everybody's happy. :ld:
 

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I think some women are talking about multiple areas.. Black women dying in childbirth is actually a big topic amongst black women.


But if you want to relegate it to violence then I’ll say that stats show that BW are #1 in homicides against women, #1 in domestic violence against women...

Black women think black men pose a bigger threat to us then anyone else and they use the stats to back it up and even when I tell them that most violence against women is by men of their own race, their go to is that it’s higher amongst black women.


I don’t think they’re asking for black men to step up and protect them when they’re being attacked but for black men to stop attacking them.

That’s my take on it.
A lot of the stats are due to proximity, poverty, and racism.
 

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I think the concept is sound, but it’s biggest pushers are fraudulent.
Black people need to recognize our humanity, and understand that we are a powerful people, but we’re still people.
Not only do we deal with race issues, but we also deal with general life issues.
As a young Black man I believe myself to protect Black women as I stay on code and have Black women’s(and Black men’s) back against an oppressive system, I work to better myself so in turn I can be better to the Black women around me, and in turn making me a better member of my community.

There are plenty of Black men out here doing this and much more, it’s never fair to judge us by the actions of individual degenerates.
 

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A lot of the stats are due to proximity, poverty, and racism.
Well, yeah. A bw who worked at the damn cdc died like this. :mjcry:

So are bm gonna protest and demand change for the mothers of their children like we be out there for y'all? I feel like regular normal ados women aren't necessarily good at organizing our own defense...? :jbhmm:
 
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