Westbama Heartthrob
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The West Coast saved Jay-Z’s career????
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More like Jay saved da West after penning 'Still Dre" 
Jay is a rapper and is considered the greatest
No one with a brain thinks kanye is a better rapper
EPMD used that sample first.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
Considered is an overstatement
Nas is above him to many people. And so is lil Wayne.
Piff Perkins
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More importantly Kanye has completely tanked his legacy whereas Hov is still Hov. Jay could announce a tour tomorrow and sell out within minutes. Meanwhile Kanye will never tour again and will probably be having (yearly) mental and emotional breakdowns until he dies. All while dressed like a hobo and not taking showers. What a fall off...
Westbama Heartthrob
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I didn't say better rapper. I said he made better music
Cd, lr, graduation, 808's, mbdtf, yeezus, and even life of Pablo are all better than jay z whole discography
Jay z don't have a six album run that comes close
And he aintcnowhere near the greatest rapper either
Nas better. Pac better. Kendrick better.
The list goes on
haters say alot of dumb things about Hov
but this one takes the cake
but this one takes the cake
prophecypro
Hollywood North
I had to turn this clip off 5 seconds cause he opened up with so many incorrect things lol
Mordith
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Jay-Z has 14 #1 albums which is more than any other solo artist. This fact renders this thread nothing more the ramblings of a retard.....
BK The Great
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Jay had a Dre hook around the time 2001 dropped.
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Port Arthur/Houston saved Jay 
But nikkas don’t want to have that conversation
But nikkas don’t want to have that conversation
I didn't say better rapper. I said he made better music
Cd, lr, graduation, 808's, mbdtf, yeezus, and even life of Pablo are all better than jay z whole discography
Jay z don't have a six album run that comes close
And he aintcnowhere near the greatest rapper either
Nas better. Pac better. Kendrick better.
The list goes on
Funny how quick Hovenger logic fall apart.
Sales and hits is the only thing they got to put him ahead of Nas. But when you compare him to Kanye, suddenly that shyt don't matter.
Same with Pac and BIG. Bring them up and the criteria change again.
Hov is the Triple H of rap. GOAT politician, GOAT at leveraging industry clout and mainstream media connections, but GOAT artist or performer? Nah.
Xtraz2
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EPMD used a lot of funk samples that later be some iconic for the west coast sound….like Rogers “more bounce”
Jay z was rhyming about player pimp shyt on there
Doesn'r matter. All of the are great. The level of greatness and the order dependa in preference. Nobody would dare talk about how Dre was better than Biggie, Pac, or Nas. You don't see narratives of Pac needing Dre for a hit or being a wave rider. Nobody talks about how Dre and Snoop were bigger than all of them or how Bone and The Fugees put these guys at number 2 from a sales perspective and how The Fugees had the acclaim and the sales. Jay Z ranks behind Nas, Biggie, Pac, and a few others for me, but the narratives that are used to discredit Jay could also be used to discredit other greats.
