there is not a deadbeat problem in the black community

[Blackout]

No one but it's never discussed up here

Hmm well lets discuss.

Why do you think those men hate those babby mommas?

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Kinda getting tired of men saying how women pick bad men when a lot of men can't stand their baby momas and couldn't stand them even before the baby came....so what is that saying? Men pick bad women just like women pick bad men.

I swore I let it be known in that post that men are just as responsible

But that's not what that thread is about. Outside of this site, I have rarely heard anyone other than my circle of close male friends say that women are just as responsible for being a single parent as the dude they laid with

 

[PartyHeart]

bytch, the only "fact" you posted was that man are the ones who usually approach the woman. What logic of mine did you refute?

First of all, You know your argument is terrible when you have to resort to name calling.

Secondly, your entire, poorly thought out point was that because women decide to agree or not agree to something that men initiate, it is entirely or mostly a woman's fault whatever happens thereafter. It was honestly one of the dumbest things I've ever read. The fact of the matter is, women are not the only ones deciding or choosing. A woman may decide to go out with a man after he approaches her, but he decided to approach her before that. A woman may decide to have sex with a man after he decides to ask her, but again, he decided to ask her to engage in sexual relations. Y'all really want women's decisions to be looked at in a vacuum and its laughable.

 

[KinksandCoils]

Hmm well lets discuss.

Why do you think those men hate those babby mommas?

Cause they picked a raggedy woman. Or they didn't get to know them before they started having sex

 

[gho3st]

truer words have never been spoken. I know this woman who knowingly got involved with a dude who was already paying child support on some kid out of state. And 2 years later she is surprised that the dude left her(with 2 kids---newborn and 1 yr old) for another woman who he just had a kid with....

 

[Blackking]

well, we are men.... so it's pretty weak to always blame women for shyt.... they are women. From what I've observed... women are illogical and irrational, so why are we leaving shyt up to them anyway? Why are we nutting in them raw anyway - knowing what might happen?.

we just need to own up.

I usually put most hoes in the bushes after the time limit cuz I don't have love for these bytches - even a professional = a rat bytch to me--- but

my baby moms... they can do whatever and I will always support them no matter what. As a man, our only concern should be to the children - we know these bytches aint shyt.

Every man can make the situation better if he chooses... one of my bms i paid for her masters degree, the other who is sorta hood - i helped her start a successful business. happy women = happy kids.

All women really need is support... These old bytches ruined them as kids, men have shytting on them as adults, plus they deal with postpartum during childbirth... Plus they were born crazy as fukk and irrational.. AKA they are women

All a women needs is support and concern and she will be OK. It's fukked up, but as a man we don't have time to get caught up in our emotions over these bytches.

 

[PartyHeart]

@MAKAVELI25 Oh and if your next poorly thought out point is going to be that "well women are the gatekeepers and the ultimate decision makers" ask yourself why anyone would ever look at a person with that mindset as a leader.

I'm the ultimate decision maker and gate keeper and nothing you do matters and everything I do, does, but you're my leader? OK

 

[cook]

 

[Blackout]

Cause they picked a raggedy woman. Or they didn't get to know them before they started having sex

Then those men are to blame for picking a aint shyt woman and staying with her even after she exposed herself as a aint shyt woman.

There is a reason why men say you cant turn a ho into a housewife.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

@MAKAVELI25 Oh and if your next poorly thought out point is going to be that "well women are the gatekeepers and the ultimate decision makers" ask yourself why anyone would ever look at a person with that mindset as a leader.

I'm the ultimate decision maker and gate keeper and nothing you do matters and everything I do, does, but you're my leader? OK

You sound like someone who doesn't understand how rape laws work

 

[PartyHeart]

When it comes to the coli, at lot of cats fit this description. Can't really argue with it really. I'm not a deadbeat by any stretch, however, I'm not gonna pretend my intentions are more noble than my deadbeat counterparts when it comes to most females. The biggest difference between me and them is that I wore a rubber or pulled out......

Thank you for being one who finally admits it

 

[PartyHeart]

You sound like someone who doesn't understand how rape laws work

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Men who DON'T operate under the assumption that women should ultimately decide whether or not sex occurs usually end up in jail

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Basically, most men don't have a choice who a woman wants to lay with. I refuse to throw myself at a chick who has options and isn't willing to put that same effort into me, and maybe that's what's wrong. Maybe these baby-daddies are persistent for the p*ssy and women just have no choice but to give in, let them speak sweet nothings in they ear, impress them with shallowness then impregnate them unwillingly

Yes, it's my fault and every man that's similar to myself. Or maybe it's my fault for even worrying about those types of women in the first place

 

[Max Power]

The problem is the lack of stigma surrounding single mothers. Other communities are fukking each other raw just as much it's just that the amount of stigma surrounding children out of wedlock causes them to either suck it up and stay with the woman and child or have a quick and discrete abortion. I know a white dude who did the former and an Asian dude that's done that latter. Twice.