Thibs fired

[Brozay]

Thanks man. I flew in yesterday morning fresh off of Thibs firing thinking I would hear anger but Bulls fans and radio seemed to be ok with the firing and gave great explanations as to why.

This is a smart sports town

Should be some good fukkery on 670 the Score at 1pm(Cent) when their flagship show comes on

 

[Brozay]

Forman wanted to hire Mike Brown

that was highly concerning to read ....

 

[Amphibious]

In

Change your avatar, it's scaring my daughter.

 

[beenz]

Thanks man. I flew in yesterday morning fresh off of Thibs firing thinking I would hear anger but Bulls fans and radio seemed to be ok with the firing and gave great explanations as to why.

This is a smart sports town

man no one is stupid here. we like thibs, but we all can see his shortcomings. dude was totally inflexible and refused to change. there's no job where your boss can ask you to do certain things and you can keep on refusing that will allow you to stay employed if you aint' winning ships.

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

if thibs couldn't make it to the finals with this team, this year, then it probably wasn't ever gonna happen under him

should be interesting to see if butler and other players are legit or a product of thibs coaching tho.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

 

[jwinfield]

if thibs couldn't make it to the finals with this team, this year, then it probably wasn't ever gonna happen under him

should be interesting to see if butler and other players are legit or a product of thibs coaching tho.

Butler improved offensively because he got an apartment with no cable/internet, so when he wasn't doing anything him and his boys would go to the gym.

Thibs didn't have anything to do with that.

 

[GzUp]

Change your avatar, it's scaring my daughter.

It's Simba

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

Butler improved offensively because he got an apartment with no cable/internet, so when he wasn't doing anything him and his boys would go to the gym.

Thibs didn't have anything to do with that.

i actually believe butler is a legit all-star level player. it's just that other players played above their level under thibs imo. just curious to see if another coach can get the same out of them.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Forman wanted to hire Mike Brown

Can we get this Muppet baby face fukka outta here.....

 

[Brozay]

Can we get this Muppet baby face fukka outta here.....

 

[jwinfield]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...hibodeau-have-finally-ended-it-170105615.html

Tom Thibodeau didn’t deserve the process, but he’s earned the dismissal. No coach works harder, but in mistaking activity for achievement Tom Thibodeau has created an unsustainable relationship with his bosses, his players and reality. Yes, there were injuries – there are always injuries in this town – but to create an offense this staid and predictable with this rotation in 2015 is an art crime.

Thibodeau’s defensive sets revolutionized pro basketball a few years ago, but he also failed to think on his feet just as distressingly on that end in 2014-15, failing to recognize the strengths and weaknesses of his players while still assuming that Omer Asik was about to come in off that bench.

The reason Omer Asik doesn’t come off the Chicago bench is because this franchise has every excuse in place.

They’ll always have excuses, and the ability to argue things away. You can’t pay the luxury tax, and a $15 million yearly contract for Asik, for a team that will be without Derrick Rose for most if not all of 2012-13. You can’t pay the repeater tax as you attempt to surround Rose and others with mid-priced helpers. What’s the point of Kyle Korver when you badly need a competent ball handler with Rose out for most, if not all, of 2012-13?

They also, apparently, barely raised a hackle when Thibodeau routinely kept Rose and Joakim Noah in games late in blowout wins during his first season, or when Thibodeau played Rose massive minutes directly after he sat games with injury during the lockout-compressed 2011-12 run. Noah was put through the paces for far too many minutes early in 2012-13 and he predictably broke down after running much farther (at 7-feet tall!) than any other player during that season. The front office, in spite of its attempts to limit the minutes in recent years, was complicit in creating this culture.

It won them the NBA’s best record for two years running, and though there is no substantive proof that overuse led to Rose’s one-move downfall in the spring of 2012, it certainly led to the shell of a player that Noah certainly was in 2014-15. All sides should be ashamed of that.

Consider:

"I don't get lost," Thibodeau said during the postseason, describing his mindset amid all of the speculation. "It's easy to get distracted in this league. Just lock into what you need to do each and every day. That's it."

This doesn’t work when you’re a head coach. That is not how a leader handles things. You’re not an assistant, charged with breaking down sets. Pro sports don’t actually work one game at a time. You’re a leader of men, men you need at full strength in June, not January. Leaders don’t confuse a front office’s multitasking and pound-proper management with distraction.

The first season was a breeze. The second season, despite the nagging injuries, seemed right on track for revenge against LeBron and Co. until Derrick Rose planted wrong. The next offseason was marked with needless but Bulls-level “we-have-our-reasons” roster upheaval. The following season, one that Rose sat out completely, featured an endless barrages of “when will?” followed by a frustrated series of “what ifs?”

Rose lost most of the next season because of an entirely different injury, and returned this year to a truncated campaign that saw the Bulls taking their best shots (a Rose game-winner against Golden State, a Rose game-winner against Cleveland) after playing endless minutes of borderline-infuriating and unsustainable basketball.

All the while Thibodeau, the longtime assistant who couldn’t get a head gig until 2010 despite working as the lead man on several fantastic coaching staffs, had to answer for all of it. Even when he screwed up, selling out his favorite player when everyone in the arena knew that something terrible was up, the front office stayed behind the curtain.

This is the same thin-skinned front office that fired the top assistant coach in basketball – the guy who helped orchestrate the best defense in basketball, one that pushed James Harden to 13 turnovers on Thursday – because he dared wonder if building a roster to take all of 2012-13 off was a good idea. This is the same front office that lost its mind when Jeff Van Gundy got it righton a basic cable contest that nobody would have remembered had they acted as grown-ups. This is the same front office that took a correct idea – “Why are you playing Joakim Noah so many minutes?” – and literally ran roughshod with it.

This is also the same front office that put together a fantastic roster.

This is the same coach who put together a fantastic game plan.

This is also the same coach who started his season by all but assuring that his two rookies, Doug McDermott and Nikola Mirotic, would be out of the rotation as the team attempted a championship run. Great coaches don’t do that. Good coaches get by on the will and talents of players who will work hard and play talented basketball even for bad coaches. Great coaches take chances, they work through their own and their players’ mistakes, and they recognize a big picture that somehow beams beyond Tuesday’s game in Charlotte. In December.

Tom Thibodeau failed in that regard. Strangely, in a city that favors the latter over the former, talent and hard work did not win out.

The whole affair was stubborn and stupid, with the players all looking on while the grown-ups were fighting. Both the front office and the coaching staff cost Chicago the chance to see a team that worked as something greater than the sum of its parts, which is infuriating.

 

[god shamgod]

Bernstein said 3 bulls starters went in on thibs during their exit interviews.I bet it was pau,dunleavy jr and noah

 

[Brozay]

Bernstein said 3 bulls starters went in on thibs during their exit interviews.I bet it was pau,dunleavy jr and noah

I think him & Pau got along, I dunno. My money would be on Rose, Dun, Noah

 

[GoldenGlove]

Forman wanted to hire Mike Brown

that was highly concerning to read ....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the same year that they were trying to recruit Bron to play in Chicago? I guess they thought Bron would have wanted to play for Mike Brown again in Chicago.