Thinking of converting to Islam (srs)

[GetInTheTruck]

@Karbaash aren't you a horner African? Here is an example of what Islamic scholars from back in the day thought of your people:

This is the English translation of the of the Arabic text "The Categories of Nations" which was written
by Said Al-Andalusi in the 11th century on medieval India:

"The Indians, as known to all nations for many centuries, are the metal (essence) of wisdom, the source of fairness and objectivity. They are peoples of sublime pensiveness, universal apologues, and useful and rare inventions. In spite of the fact that their color is in the first stage of blackness, which puts them in the same category as the blacks, Allah, in His glory, did not give them the low characters, the poor manners, nor the inferior principles associated with this group and ranked them above a large number of white and brown peoples.

Some astrologers came up with an explanation for this condition; they said that both Saturn and Mercury control the destiny of the Indian people. Because of the influence of Saturn, their color turned black, while the influence of Mercury provided them with intellectual power and fine spirit. Saturn in partnership with Mercury gave them correctness of reasoning and depth of perception. This is why they enjoy the purity of talent and the power of distinction, making them totally different from the people of Sudan (Blacks) (2) such as the Zinj, the Abyssinians, the Ethiopians and others. "

 

[Karb]

I mentioned Hindu concepts in response to your assertion that Islam's conception of God is unique. It isn't. I mentioned them specifically because I am familiar with them, in the same way that I am familiar with Islam and what it teaches.

Vaishnavism, a branch of Hinduism, is way more ancient than Islam and it's teachings about Vishnu/Narayana, specifically about his attributes with relation to his own nature, are fundamental to it's doctrine. Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita that he only assumes different forms through his "Maya," or cosmic power, they are illusory, in reality the Supreme being is formless (Nirguna), beyond empirical conception. But this is unacceptable to Islam because Vaishnavas will not give up their conception of the Supreme in favor of Allah his Arab messenger.

The notion that God manifests Himself in physical form, whether illusory or not, is Shirk in Islam. The Divine is completely separate in His essence from the creation.

If Islam is so "universal," why are non-Islamic approaches to spirituality condemned as taghut and punishable with eternal hellfire? Is this really representative of the boundless mercy of a so-called supreme deity? Or is it a con? I'm going to go with the latter.

"Universal" does not mean "encompassing of all other religions".

You're basically asking "why does Islam regard Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc as false?" Which is a very absurd question.

All these religions differ fundamentally with one another and contradict one another.

 

[Karb]

@Karbaash aren't you a horner African? Here is an example of what Islamic scholars from back in the day thought of your people:

This is the English translation of the of the Arabic text "The Categories of Nations" which was written
by Said Al-Andalusi in the 11th century on medieval India:

"The Indians, as known to all nations for many centuries, are the metal (essence) of wisdom, the source of fairness and objectivity. They are peoples of sublime pensiveness, universal apologues, and useful and rare inventions. In spite of the fact that their color is in the first stage of blackness, which puts them in the same category as the blacks, Allah, in His glory, did not give them the low characters, the poor manners, nor the inferior principles associated with this group and ranked them above a large number of white and brown peoples.

Some astrologers came up with an explanation for this condition; they said that both Saturn and Mercury control the destiny of the Indian people. Because of the influence of Saturn, their color turned black, while the influence of Mercury provided them with intellectual power and fine spirit. Saturn in partnership with Mercury gave them correctness of reasoning and depth of perception. This is why they enjoy the purity of talent and the power of distinction, making them totally different from the people of Sudan (Blacks) (2) such as the Zinj, the Abyssinians, the Ethiopians and others. "

"Mercury and Saturn control the destiny of Indian people", this is Shirk since only God controls destiny. Astrology is strictly forbidden.

Even if this translation is accurate, what does this have to do with whether or not Islamic doctrine is true? :Mjwtf:

Yes, there were some racist scholars.

 

[Light]

Follow the teachings of a child molester brehs.



If you gone study islam you had better STUDY all of it.

Even the stuff they won't tell you.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was no rapist, you troll. He consummated the marriage after she hit puberty. Regardless this criticism towards the prophet is mainly an issue in the 20th century and onwards. Prior to that cultures all throughout the world were marrying at a young age.

 

[Guru]

Are you feeling the call from God/Allah or you like the lifestyle?

A little bit of both tbh. Lately I've just been drifting further & further away from Christianity, it feels to strict & unsure of itself compared to Islam. Also I think my parents being hardcore annoying evangelists has effected my decision making in regards to this matter

 

[Guru]

Topic has gone off the rails smh

These Islam threads always gets nikkas in they feelings

But thx to those who stayed on topic & contributed

 

[Lamar Givens]

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was no rapist, you troll. He consummated the marriage after she hit puberty. Regardless this criticism towards the prophet is mainly an issue in the 20th century and onwards. Prior to that cultures all throughout the world were marrying at a young age.

Follow the teaching of child molesters brehs

Narrated ‘Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64



Narrated ‘Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’



And we got brehs trying to co sign this false religion

 

[MeachTheMonster]

 

[Lamar Givens]

A little bit of both tbh. Lately I've just been drifting further & further away from Christianity, it feels to strict & unsure of itself compared to Islam. Also I think my parents being hardcore annoying evangelists has effected my decision making in regards to this matter

You need to sit down with a true muslim who has walked away from Islam and hear their arguments.

It sounds like you want to turn from Christianity because there are things you want to engage in without having to be held accountable

Christianity is not strict at all. Fundamentalist make Christianity strict but that is not the true essence of biblical Christianity.

 

[Anti-Anime]

Topic has gone off the rails smh

These Islam threads always gets in nikkas in they feelings

But thx to those who stayed on topic & contributed

We just don't want u wasting ur time on something u might not be fully invested in breh breh

 

[Lamar Givens]

It's sad OP is just willingly ignoring all the valid arguments against Islam.

 

[Money Be Green]

 

[Guru]

You need to sit down with a true muslim who has walked away from Islam and hear their arguments.

It sounds like you want to turn from Christianity because there are things you want to engage in without having to be held accountable

Christianity is not strict at all. Fundamentalist make Christianity strict but that is not the true essence of biblical Christianity.

I know people who are muslims and they have said nothing but good things about it, they seem happy.

And btw Christianity is just one of the MANY reasons I'm converting to Islam.

 

[Ms.CuriousCat]

Any so called "scientific contribution" by Muslims was made via the achievements and knowledge of Indians and Greeks, people who are considered to be idolaters and kaffirs by Islamic theology. That's just a fact.

Of course, they built on what they found. Stored the information, translated it, added to it. Islam encourages you to learn, to question and to go and seek answers. Islam's contribution to civilisation is recorded, if you want to learn more go and question and seek answers.

But the more important questions to me are the personal ones: where have I come from and where will I go? To answer those questions, the Quran does not mince words. The Quran is a warning and a blessing, when you are ready, pick up a copy or listen online. It's not about the randoms walking down the street, it's your personal journey. Born alone, die alone, will be raised up and questioned for your actions alone.

 

[Light]

Follow the teaching of child molesters brehs

Narrated ‘Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64



Narrated ‘Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’



And we got brehs trying to co sign this false religion

How about you actually go and read the holy Quran and hadiths and try and understand it. The Quran does not approve of child molestation or pedophilia. Hadiths vary when it comes to Aisha age, some of the modern hadiths have her as being 16 or 19 when she consummated the marriage. The fact is that she and her family approved of the marriage.


"And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed." - Surah Nur 24:31

"And when the children among you reach puberty, let them ask permission [at all times] as those before them have done. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses; and Allah is Knowing and Wise" - Surah Nur 24:59