Lakerman0834
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they both fit differently that helped that team win a ring against Lakers. Are people arguing against Dirk leading bums to a ring while KG had 2 hof and a rising star help him win a title?
This is the Most Accurate Post-Jordan NBA Top 10 Player Rankings
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they both fit differently that helped that team win a ring against Lakers. Are people arguing against Dirk leading bums to a ring while KG had 2 hof and a rising star help him win a title?
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
Matter of fact, I'll help you guys out. Here is the 2003-2004 TWolves.
Yeah, real shytty team with no support, no help, no quality players that KG was stuck on during those years. But please, continue with the narrative that Dirk played with guys like prime Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, and Ray Allen en route to Finals appearances!
The one year KG had help he took Minny to the WCF and lost to the Lakers. Sam and Sprewell didn't even play in that series.
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
If this is supposed to be "the most accurate post-jordan NBA Top 10 player rankings"....then it must start with the 2004 NBA Season because Jordan rlast played in the 2002-2003 season
With that being said....how is Kobe NOT #1 ?
Since the 2004 season (Post-Jordan):
Regular Season average (743 games): 28.2 points, 5.5 rebs, 5.2 assts, and 1.5 stls
Playoffs average (123 games): 28.3 points, 5.3 rebs, 5.1 assts, and 1.6 stls
3 NBA Finals
2x NBA Champion
2x NBA Finals MVP
1x Regular Season MVP
10x NBA All-Star
9x All-NBA 1st Team
1x All-NBA 3rd Team
7x All-Defensive 1st Team
1x All-Defensive 2nd Team
vs
Tim Duncan since 2004
Regular Season average (729 games): 18.5 points, 10.5 rebs, 3.0 assts, and 2.1 blks
Playoffs average (132 games): 20.8 points, 11.2 rebs, 2.9 assts, and 2.2 blks
3 NBA Finals
2x NBA Champion (possible 3rd this year)
1x Finals MVP (possible 2nd this year)
9x NBA All-Star
4x All-NBA 1st Team
3x All-NBA 2nd Team
1x All-NBA 3rd Team
3x All-Defensive 1st Team
5x All-Defensive 2nd Team
FACTS are not disputable
Kobe Bryant
With that being said....how is Kobe NOT #1 ?
Since the 2004 season (Post-Jordan):
Regular Season average (743 games): 28.2 points, 5.5 rebs, 5.2 assts, and 1.5 stls
Playoffs average (123 games): 28.3 points, 5.3 rebs, 5.1 assts, and 1.6 stls
3 NBA Finals
2x NBA Champion
2x NBA Finals MVP
1x Regular Season MVP
10x NBA All-Star
9x All-NBA 1st Team
1x All-NBA 3rd Team
7x All-Defensive 1st Team
1x All-Defensive 2nd Team
vs
Tim Duncan since 2004
Regular Season average (729 games): 18.5 points, 10.5 rebs, 3.0 assts, and 2.1 blks
Playoffs average (132 games): 20.8 points, 11.2 rebs, 2.9 assts, and 2.2 blks
3 NBA Finals
2x NBA Champion (possible 3rd this year)
1x Finals MVP (possible 2nd this year)
9x NBA All-Star
4x All-NBA 1st Team
3x All-NBA 2nd Team
1x All-NBA 3rd Team
3x All-Defensive 1st Team
5x All-Defensive 2nd Team
FACTS are not disputable
Kobe Bryant
If this is supposed to be "the most accurate post-jordan NBA Top 10 player rankings"....then it must start with the 2004 NBA Season because Jordan rlast played in the 2002-2003 season
With that being said....how is Kobe NOT #1 ?
Since the 2004 season (Post-Jordan):
Regular Season average (743 games): 28.2 points, 5.5 rebs, 5.2 assts, and 1.5 stls
Playoffs average (123 games): 28.3 points, 5.3 rebs, 5.1 assts, and 1.6 stls
3 NBA Finals
2x NBA Champion
2x NBA Finals MVP
1x Regular Season MVP
10x NBA All-Star
9x All-NBA 1st Team
1x All-NBA 3rd Team
7x All-Defensive 1st Team
1x All-Defensive 2nd Team
vs
Tim Duncan since 2004
Regular Season average (729 games): 18.5 points, 10.5 rebs, 3.0 assts, and 2.1 blks
Playoffs average (132 games): 20.8 points, 11.2 rebs, 2.9 assts, and 2.2 blks
3 NBA Finals
2x NBA Champion (possible 3rd this year)
1x Finals MVP (possible 2nd this year)
9x NBA All-Star
4x All-NBA 1st Team
3x All-NBA 2nd Team
1x All-NBA 3rd Team
3x All-Defensive 1st Team
5x All-Defensive 2nd Team
FACTS are not disputable
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan good year this year has ppl forgetting tony parker has been their best player last few years, including this year. If Kobe as a number 1 seed lost to an 8th seed he would never live that down.
Illuminatos
#OVOXO
Tracy McGrady over Durant? Slap yourself. 
Kobe over Shaq? Slap yourself.
Kobe over LeBron? Slap yourself.
Kobe over Shaq? Slap yourself.
Kobe over LeBron? Slap yourself.
The one year KG had help he took Minny to the WCF and lost to the Lakers. Sam and Sprewell didn't even play in that series.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_WCF.html
Cassell played in 2 of those games and had 16 and 18 points. Sprewell played in ALL of those games, playing more than 41 minutes in ALL of those games. Dude averaged over 20PPG...
Seriously, are we just going to make shyt up now to fit our arguments?
The "one year KG had help" he lost. Like every other year. He did go a little further "the one year he had help" before losing though
Dirk's team in 2011 beat the Trailblazers, swept the defending 2-time champion Lakers that hadn't lost a series in over 2 years, beat an OKC team that still had Harden, and then shyt on Miami.
He did that without anybody on his team on the level of Paul Pierce or Rajon Rondo. Oh yeah, that same LAL team that Boston lost to the year before
We can pretty much ignore Butler since he stopped playing in early January, Peja since he played garbage time after being picked up at the end of the year, and Beaubois since that dude also only played garbage minutes in a handful of games. Tell me, how is this team SOOOOO much better than some of the solid teams KG had in 2002-2006 period?
He had Tyson? That just proves my point that you can plug in a defensive-minded big man next to Dirk and succeed. How did KG do with another scorer in Sprewell or Wally or Marbury?
He did that without anybody on his team on the level of Paul Pierce or Rajon Rondo. Oh yeah, that same LAL team that Boston lost to the year before
We can pretty much ignore Butler since he stopped playing in early January, Peja since he played garbage time after being picked up at the end of the year, and Beaubois since that dude also only played garbage minutes in a handful of games. Tell me, how is this team SOOOOO much better than some of the solid teams KG had in 2002-2006 period?
He had Tyson? That just proves my point that you can plug in a defensive-minded big man next to Dirk and succeed. How did KG do with another scorer in Sprewell or Wally or Marbury?
Tracy McGrady over Durant? Slap yourself.
Kobe over Shaq? Slap yourself.
Kobe over LeBron? Slap yourself.
Are you serious?
Illuminatos
#OVOXO
Are you serious?
You damn right I'm serious. What has McGrady done that Durant hasn't?
Kobe over Shaq and Lebron?
What exactly has Kobe done without Shaq? This nikka barely scratched the playoffs with a team of Dwight/Nash/Gasol.
What exactly has Kobe done without Shaq? This nikka barely scratched the playoffs with a team of Dwight/Nash/Gasol.
What has Kobe done without Shaq?
Really breh?
I dont know, over these last 9 years without Shaq Kobe just averaged a pathetic 28.6 ppg, 5.5 rebs, 5.2 assts, and 1.5 stls while going to the NBA Finals 3 times, Winning 2 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, a Regular Season MVP, being a 9x All-Star, being 8x All-NBA 1st Team, 1x All-NBA 3rd Team, 6x All-Defensive 1st Team, and 1x All-Defensive 2nd Team......ya know, ordinary shyt.
What has Shaq done without Kobe though?
What has Kobe done without Shaq?
Really breh?
I dont know, over these last 9 years without Shaq Kobe just averaged a pathetic 28.6 ppg, 5.5 rebs, 5.2 assts, and 1.5 stls while going to the NBA Finals 3 times, Winning 2 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, a Regular Season MVP, being a 9x All-Star, being 8x All-NBA 1st Team, 1x All-NBA 3rd Team, 6x All-Defensive 1st Team, and 1x All-Defensive 2nd Team......ya know, ordinary shyt.
What has Shaq done without Kobe though?
The facts are that Kobe's body of work without shaq(only 8 years) is better then 95% of the careers anyone has had period
Illuminatos
#OVOXO
What has Kobe done without Shaq?
Really breh?
I dont know, over these last 9 years without Shaq Kobe just averaged a pathetic 28.6 ppg, 5.5 rebs, 5.2 assts, and 1.5 stls while going to the NBA Finals 3 times, Winning 2 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, a Regular Season MVP, being a 9x All-Star, being 8x All-NBA 1st Team, 1x All-NBA 3rd Team, 6x All-Defensive 1st Team, and 1x All-Defensive 2nd Team......ya know, ordinary shyt.
What has Shaq done without Kobe though?
Kobe's won zero playoff series without Shaq/Gasol. Yes zero.
He's been carried by big men his whole career.
LeBron's won zero Finals games without D-Wade and Chris Bosh. Yes zero.Kobe's won zero playoff series without Shaq/Gasol. Yes zero.
He's been carried by big men his whole career.
Kobe's won zero playoff series without Shaq/Gasol. Yes zero.
He's been carried by big men his whole career.
Ironic you use a Michael Jordan smiley........being that he won zero playoff series without Scottie Pippen. Yes zero.
