This is why no hip-hop songs are in the top 40

[O.T.I.S.]

1. You’re in here caping for a Canadian actor turned Pop Rap studio gangster.



2. I’m glad Hip Hop is moving away from what “everyone” likes. Hip Hop used to be coded language for a certain group of people and as soon as the Drakes of the world heard it, they became fascinated with a life they were FAR removed from and tainted it with their interpretation of an authentic street level culture.



It was never for them or about them.

I’m caping for good, enjoyable, fun music that should have a place in hiphop. You know, music that can make you feel good.

I personally don’t know Drake to defend him, and vice versa for you nikkas. But I do know you nikkas talking points on everything, and that you nikkas have zero foresight.

But idgaf about him being Canadian, lightskinned, him being a “studio gangster” (which I’ve never thought he was trying to do), etc. I give af about rap music that’s fun enough to become POPULAR sometimes… they call those “hits”.

So you’re glad hiphop is no longer popular? Thats cool, you could just say that then. I personally stopped giving af about hiphop in general for most of a decade.. only the classic shyt I listen to, a few hidden gems, and a few HITS that may be making noise now.



And newsflash: most rappers are studio gangsters

 

[Black Magisterialness]

gen z not able to carry the art form forward because they're less creative, less intelligent, and stunted. not their fault though. the fault lies with society in general and what our culture permits, to be precise.

I had one of my old anthropology professors' (a white lady) tell me that Jazz and Hip-Hop, as creole creations, by virtue CANNOT be fully understood by white people because they have never been forced to code or dilute language.

She went on to say that to listen to hip hop with any form of understanding requires a post-graduate level of linguistics and syntax, the ability to basically speak 3-4 different languages/dialects (nyc rap vs London drill vs southern rap vs la rap, etc.), an journalistic knowledge of pop culture references and and undergraduate degree in criminal justice. And that's just to decode the lyrical side of rap. That's not even getting into vocal delivery.

Like Jazz and probably heavy metal, rap is easily one of the most complex musical artforms in the world.

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

I’m caping for good, enjoyable, fun music that should have a place in hiphop. You know, music that can make you feel good.

I personally don’t know Drake to defend him, and vice versa for you nikkas. But I do know you nikkas talking points on everything, and that you nikkas have zero foresight.

But idgaf about him being Canadian, lightskinned, him being a “studio gangster” (which I’ve never thought he was trying to do), etc. I give af about rap music that’s fun enough to become POPULAR sometimes… they call those “hits”.

So you’re glad hiphop is no longer popular? Thats cool, you could just say that then. I personally stopped giving af about hiphop in general for most of a decade.. only the classic shyt I listen to, a few hidden gems, and a few HITS that may be making noise now.



And newsflash: most rappers are studio gangsters

1. I’m glad the media and marketing is no longer telling people what to like in rap, which makes true Hip Hop fans have to do some work to figure out what’s going on and who THEY actually like. Before YO MTV Raps and The Basement, that’s how it went. You had to go to a music store and listen to an album or look at the art and take a gamble.

2. I’ve met enough rappers and people in the game to tell you it wasn’t always like that. There was a time when people either rapped about people in their crew, things they witnessed in their neighborhood or about what they actually lived.

I can write a lonnnng list of popular and successful gangster rappers who actually lived the life they rap about. Authenticity counts because the people I’m talking about would tell you the “good” and bad side of street life, not just glorify the “good” side.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

1. I’m glad the media and marketing is no longer telling people what to like in rap, which makes true Hip Hop fans have to do some work to figure out what’s going on and who THEY actually like. Before YO MTV Raps and The Basement, that’s how it went. You had to go to a music store and listen to an album or look at the art and take a gamble.

2. I’ve met enough rappers and people in the game to tell you it wasn’t always like that. There was a time when people either rapped about people in their crew, things they witnessed in their neighborhood or about what they actually lived.

I can write a lonnnng list of popular and successful gangster rappers who actually lived the life they rap about. Authenticity counts because the people I’m talking about would tell you the “good” and bad side of street life, not just glorify the “good” side.

Yeah I know it wasn’t always like that. It’s like that now though and been that way for a minute…

Remember all the cats we had out here snitching?


And Billboard doesn’t tell you or direct you to listen to what’s popular, right?

Don’t they use actual numbers and statistics to show what majority people like to listen to at the moment? And whatever it is, they not listening to new, mainstream hiphop.

 

[Lhark]

lol billboard reworked the algorithm and now 90% of the top 40 is taylor swift…its not just rap.

This is the real answer

 

[Amo Husserl]

lol billboard reworked the algorithm and now 90% of the top 40 is taylor swift…its not just rap.

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

Yeah I know it wasn’t always like that. It’s like that now though and been that way for a minute…

Remember all the cats we had out here snitching?


And Billboard doesn’t tell you or direct you to listen to what’s popular, right?

Don’t they use actual numbers and statistics to show what majority people like to listen to at the moment? And whatever it is, they not listening to new, mainstream hiphop.

I’m a “minority” and was never concerned with the majority’s taste or unseasoned lack of. The point has always been to lead and trend set, not follow the pack. This is like when Hip Hop clothing brands fell off and people had to stop copying and pasting their look, running around looking like B Rad and Malibu’s Most Wanted. This art was never supposed to be Pop music. Go listen to A Tribe Called Quest’s “Check The Rhyme”.

Here, I’ll help since you’re probably unfamiliar.

“Rap IS NOT POP if you call it that, then STOP” —Q-Tip

 

[Professor K.]

From a historical perspective, we’ve been LONG overdue for a new genre

We've had them for awhile now, but since Black people/culture are a monolith they haven't been recognized as such. If Rock, Country, Metal, and Pop are all separate genres, then Trap, Boom Bap, and Lo-Fi are too

 

[cyndaquil]

The lightskinned nikka who was usually in the top 40

Bro he did it to himself lmao

Unless you meant thecoli hate before the exposure?

 

[el_oh_el]

It’s true that old heads tend to criticize the next generation (in a lot of things) but in the case of hip hop, the music really is worse today.

Money-driven enshyttification (media conglomerates controlling what artists blew up, therefore controlling a very influential narrative) is the root of most issues that culminate in the scene we see today.

Just like most other things that bloomed only to be ruined by profiteering, it will take a while to recover. I believe this is a good wake up call that will lead to new sounds.
When you think about it, if HIP HOP is dead, then the whole music industry is in deep shyt since hip hop seeds "style" to many other genres...

 

[Tribal Outkast]

It’s crazy because a lot of my music is fed to me algorithm style. I mean TikTok feeds me decent artists that will never be known. Younger people keep telling me that radio and tv is Getting fed through an algorithm is good but do you know what the bad part is?? You have a bunch of people trying to put others up on these unknown ass artists instead of trying to figure out the next stars. You have folks on the other side of the country thinking Lil So and So is the biggest thing in music, meanwhile the other side of the country is like who??? I think we are too far gone and it’s going to be hard to fix this.

 

[maxamusa]

the DING DONG




that shyt took me out LMFAO

 

[Tribal Outkast]

meh, hip hop will be fine. it's not 1988 anymore. Rappers don't necessarily need billboard to get there music out there.

Seems they do need billboard. There’s hundreds of rappers dropping but of people ain’t supporting We didn’t have nearly the outlets and ways to listen back then but somehow we knew what was going on and we made stars.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Bro he did it to himself lmao

Unless you meant thecoli hate before the exposure?

I’m a “minority” and was never concerned with the majority’s taste or unseasoned lack of. The point has always been to lead and trend set, not follow the pack. This is like when Hip Hop clothing brands fell off and people had to stop copying and pasting their look, running around looking like B Rad and Malibu’s Most Wanted. This art was never supposed to be Pop music. Go listen to A Tribe Called Quest’s “Check The Rhyme”.

Here, I’ll help since you’re probably unfamiliar.

“Rap IS NOT POP if you call it that, then STOP” —Q-Tip

Not you and wig


Nah.. nikkas been trying to get him out the paint. It’s that “envy” shyt buddy was talking about in the other thread. Mainly because females liked his shyt the most.

And your taste doesn’t matter for a Top 40 billboard. I like KRIT, Lupe, etc.. but I don’t expect them to be on the Billboards like that. I PERSONALLY like their shyt and think they had classic albums.. majority might disagree and that’s cool to me.

I’m talking about the culture in general supporting fake ass trash and it’s deader than the club scene…

We can just agree to disagree, but I have no feelings for buddy. I felt like his type of music was fine in the culture, “hiphop” doesn’t have to be just one thing. But everything ends.. we can agree to disagree

 

[cyndaquil]

Not you and wig


Nah.. nikkas been trying to get him out the paint. It’s that “envy” shyt buddy was talking about in the other thread. Mainly because females liked his shyt the most.

And your taste doesn’t matter for a Top 40 billboard. I like KRIT, Lupe, etc.. but I don’t expect them to be on the Billboards like that.

I’m talking about the culture in general supporting fake ass trash and it’s deader than the club scene…

We can just agree to disagree, but I have no feelings for buddy. I felt like his type of music was fine in the culture, “hiphop” doesn’t have to be just one thing. But everything ends.. we can agree to disagree

Breh I liked his music. It's the artist himself I don't like. I just listened to lemon pepper freestyle again at the gym today. But billboard is a popularity contest. You need a good reputation as an artist to make it and stay on there. Nobody stopping folks from listening to Drake but when dude is looked at as a pedophile he's naturally getting tuned out a lot more regardless of truth of allegations or not. And truthfully with him falling off that lane is open for another artist to take the spot he almost 40 anyways he had a mn amazing run