This is why sampling is so important
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soulfuljah
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Never once said that his beats were the most creative, but he has an ear for samples better than most.He is not even in the Top 10 most creative...
Dude has made the same beat for the past 20 or so years...I find it fascinating that his fans can't hear it...He has a template that he just plugs in different samples, makes a few adjustments, et voila, "new" Premo beat...
I can hear it as clear as a church bell at noon...I guess I am not deafened by appreciation...
King A.D 7
Pro
Was done reading this bullshyt right here... Fukk you, your "logic", & your tusk analogy. Premo is a proven legend at sampling, & you'z a muthafukkin nobody.
(1) Just because something "ain't hard at all to comprehend" it doesn't mean it is a solid argument...
(2) That "soul" that they are going on about is from the ORIGINAL recording...PERIOD.
(3) Kanye West sampled Daft Punk for "Stronger" does that song sound "soulful?" No...Even though it was a MASSIVE record...
(4) Therefore, the original composer who created the "soul" DESERVES 100% of the credit, because the "soulfulness" is record dependent...Not every old school recording will give you the "soul"...That's why crate diggers search a certain records from certain eras...They now how much of a difference it makes...
Another example, Jay Z rapped on a Kraftwerk sample for "Sunshine," which is a DOPE beat (in my opinion), but is it a "soulful" beat like "Nothing But G Thang?" No
(5) Can you comprehend where I am going with this, or do you want me to write a 3000 words essay...?
(1) What does this even mean?
(2) Who are you comparing him to when you state "he has an ear for samples better than most?"
Purplekush
Pro
Preme ain't creative? This dude sampled birds chirping on Nas is like. Even if you think he makes the same beat over and over, that would be the creativity of the beat you have an issue with. A dude could be creative as fukk sampling as sorts of crazy shyt and make an ass beat with it. I seen a video the other day of son making a beat with only hairstyle accessories. That's creative as hell, but don't mean the song gonna be tight.
Premier ain't creative.....have you even heard Come Clean?
Stop "fake outraging"chill out on tha G-Funk disrespect. None of us need 2 get reckless 2 prove a point
(1) Where is the "disrespect" in that statement?
(2) FYI, I love G Funk...I am just pointing out who REALLY deserves the credit...
DJDONTNOBODYPAYME
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Stop "fake outraging"
(1) Where is the "disrespect" in that statement?
(2) FYI, I love G Funk...I am just pointing out who REALLY deserves the credit...
No fake outrage. You just talkin outcha ass tryna be cute.
I could shut down your whole argument easily. Different styles of Sampling, How much in depth did the Sampler go into the Sample, are the Samples chopped up individually 2 play like their own separate instruments, etc etc.
But why when youre kinda trollin at this point
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(1) I didn't state that "Premier ain't creative"....
I stated that he is not one of the most creative...It is was a relative statement...(2) I am NOT convinced Premo is even Top 10 best beat makers in Hip Hop...I believe he was lucky to have the best rappers of his prime and their prime rhyming on his beats...
I look at Premo as one of those White Athletes that were BEASTING when sports was segregated, and when sports became more popular across races and ethnicities, he wasn't able to keep up...
Better beatmakers came along...
fukk up....hip hop built off sampling
Yet, you are the one who has yet to post a counter argument...if you are not going to defend your position, then just ignore my arguments...
I have an opinion, and I am ready to argue...When I see a post I think is too stupid for my time, I don't waste my time responding...
You won't see my username in the arcadium section arguing about game consoles...Why? I don't give a fcuk about that stuff...
It is really easy...
(1) I am not arguing against that...
(2) The OP made a statement that "Sampling is so important"...It was when Rap Music didn't have it's own musical elements...But Rap Music it is own identity now...
Sampling isn't that important now...
Another poster stated that "you can make your own composition and then sample it"....Or you can make a composition that sounds like a sample...
(3) Rap Music is better than it ever was in terms of the music...Beatmakers today are way ABOVE the older dudes...
You're not a hip hop fan.
Ludicrous. Sampling is as old as time. The only difference is that hip hop, being ahead of the curve, found the opportunity to copy the original tune almost 1-1. Then juice that shyt up on some strange steroid soul shyt. Before your favorite acts would just replay a melody they heard somewhere. Hip hop's just doing it digitally and bringing a whole new narrative to it.
If cacs invented hip hop, they'd be cramming their "we so genius" narrative down everyone's throat.
Not just that. and the soul/intellect in hip hop, specially in the drums and its pattern. Can't you read?
you're not a hip hop fan.
@ number 3. Anybody and there mommy can pick up there laptop and get a cracked beat program and put up some beats broDudes back in the day were working with way less making some heat bro
How old are you?
street heat
merchant of death
this is a terrible fukking analogy and youre an idiot.
who the fukk cares about not using the body when your goal is to create something new ? a producer can hear a sound that isnt even a big part of a record and immediately paints a picture of what it could be once you fit to your vision/style. so its more like taking the tusks and putting them on a new animal you have created. one producer might want the tusks, another may want the trunk. it doesnt matter. 10 producers will hear the same song and youll get 10 different beats.
a producer can make great music with a sound that wasnt anything special on its own until they added their own strings, pianos, bass, voice sample and percussion, etc.... whatever.