This NBA play in shyt is corny.

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Going back to the best of 5 in the first round and the play in tournament is the best thing the league has done in a while. The winning teams are rewarded but at the same time, they can't get too cozy once that first round starts.
Yup , I don’t get why so many people are up in arms about it . It makes for more exciting basketball for the regular season and can give a jolt in the postseason , lakers vs warriors play in game would be must see tv . Let’s be honest the NBA has the least amount of parity of any of the major leagues so anything to add some elements of upsets and competitive balance
 

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Yup , I don’t get why so many people are up in arms about it . It makes for more exciting basketball for the regular season and can give a jolt in the postseason , lakers vs warriors play in game would be must see tv . Let’s be honest the NBA has the least amount of parity of any of the major leagues so anything to add some elements of upsets and competitive balance
Why should a team that’s been worse throughout the season get to jump ahead of another team that’s been better because of a stupid game?

it’s basically saying standings don’t matter
 

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I get that perspective. I look at it like 82 games of NBA comp is 82 games of NBA comp. 38 win squads shouldn't be getting in over 45 wins squads because of their conference. Teams get home court in the Finals based on records that are impacted/restricted by the same criteria.
If 82 games of NBA is what it is then open it up to play each conference 41 times. Home court in the Finals works that way because it makes sense. There's Western teams with better records against the East then intraconference play and same for some Eastern teams, the best of each conference is all that's left so they've already proven they've mastered their main competition.

If we think 1-16 is fair then get rid of conferences or make an American and National Conference irrespective of geography like the NFL and MLB.
 

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Nah, I love this.... The sense of entitlement by 7th and 8th seeds is laughable. And at the end of the day, the NBA is about business and the fact they have been able to keep people interested in the last month of the season is a win win...

People having an issue with it is also another win. Because everyone who is complaining about it will definitely be tuned into to watch those play in games. I just don't see the down side

The downside for me is that you’re giving 9th & 10th seeds a get out of jail free card for nothing. You can label it as 7th & 8th seeds being entitled but the 9th & 10th teams had 72 games to prove they were one of the best 8 in their conference and couldn’t do it, so why should they be given a second chance?

Of course I’ll still watch the games, I’m an NBA fan. I found the play-in game from last season to be entertaining, and I’m sure some of the ones from this year will be. But to me it just feels like you’re rewarding teams for being below average. In my opinion, a team with the 20th best record in the league should not still be able to make the playoffs.
 

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If 82 games of NBA is what it is then open it up to play each conference 41 times. Home court in the Finals works that way because it makes sense. There's Western teams with better records against the East then intraconference play and same for some Eastern teams, the best of each conference is all that's left so they've already proven they've mastered their main competition.

If we think 1-16 is fair then get rid of conferences or make an American and National Conference irrespective of geography like the NFL and MLB.

We already acknowledged why they don't do that. Why should that stop it from happening in the playoffs when scheduling and travel are less of an issue? Baseball has divisions in which you play those teams more than any other team. The idea of having even scheduling for everyone is just not realistic. It's one thing in college where there certain programs and conferences are just head and shoulders. But on the pro level, just playing against pro competition all season should be enough IMO.
 

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The downside for me is that you’re giving 9th & 10th seeds a get out of jail free card for nothing. You can label it as 7th & 8th seeds being entitled but the 9th & 10th teams had 72 games to prove they were one of the best 8 in their conference and couldn’t do it, so why should they be given a second chance?

Of course I’ll still watch the games, I’m an NBA fan. I found the play-in game from last season to be entertaining, and I’m sure some of the ones from this year will be. But to me it just feels like you’re rewarding teams for being below average. In my opinion, a team with the 20th best record in the league should not still be able to make the playoffs.


Why not? Whats the problem? Who is hurt? 7 and 8 seeds for the most part don't matter and don't really impact anything so why not spice it up a little? You said yourself it was entertaining. So whats the problem?

I feel the same way about the team with the 16th best record (technically you can have the team with the 20th best record or worse under the previous format as well due to conferences). What have they done to put themselves above reproach? If we go by that logic, why should 7 or 8 seeds have a second chance against teams with the best records in the league? It's the same concept, an inferior squad is getting a chance against stacked odds. If we not gonna make it super elite and only allow the top teams that actually have a chance in, why not open it up and have a little fun?
 

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Why not? Whats the problem? Who is hurt? 7 and 8 seeds for the most part don't matter and don't really impact anything so why not spice it up a little? You said yourself it was entertaining. So whats the problem?

I feel the same way about the team with the 16th best record (technically you can have the team with the 20th best record or worse under the previous format as well due to conferences). What have they done to put themselves above reproach? If we go by that logic, why should 7 or 8 seeds have a second chance against teams with the best records in the league? It's the same concept, an inferior squad is getting a chance against stacked odds. If we not gonna make it super elite and only allow the top teams that actually have a chance in, why not open it up and have a little fun?

I just said what my issue was. Those teams had their shot and didn't make it, what's the point of giving them a second chance? 72 games isn't enough time? Why not just go baseball and play 162 to make sure we get it right? Or would that still not be enough time to decide who should make the cut? Should we give the top seed in each conference a first round bye and let all 30 make the playoffs? The reality is that everybody can't make it and that's just what it is. It's an overcorrection to an overblown problem. Adding the play-in hasn't ended tanking, it hasn't ended load management, and regular season ratings being up this year has more to do with Steph Curry being healthy and New York teams being relevant.

Basketball is entertaining in general. I'm not going full LeBron and saying that adding the play-in is a fireable offense. But I just don't see why it's necessary. That doesn't mean the teams that are in it aren't capable of having entertaining games. I'm sure if they changed the rules so that only the lowest seed in each conference isn't in the play-in and we got the likes of Minnesota & Sacramento involved in a win or go home format there would still be good games. But does that mean they should do it?
 

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I like the playoff teams getting a week off before the playoffs start. Gives everybody a chance to heal and rest up.

A 7/8 seed has made the finals once in the past 40 years, a lockout shortened season, and they have to lose twice back to back to lose their playoff spot. I don't see the issue
 

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We already acknowledged why they don't do that. Why should that stop it from happening in the playoffs when scheduling and travel are less of an issue? Baseball has divisions in which you play those teams more than any other team. The idea of having even scheduling for everyone is just not realistic. It's one thing in college where there certain programs and conferences are just head and shoulders. But on the pro level, just playing against pro competition all season should be enough IMO.
Yes we acknowledged it, but I don't agree with it. It should stop it in the playoff because your record is based on this geographic limitation. If they can't change the format of the league then leave the postseason the way it is.

Baseball still has divisions but their conferences are not geographically restricted. The Yankees will play a series in Tampa, come back host the Tigers, go out and do a series in Houston, and there's twice as many games in baseball.

If you don't want a geographic slant or divider in the postseason then your conferences shouldn't be limited by geography.

Edit: Not a perfect 41/41 but all leagues do intraconference play more so I was wrong on that anyway.

Intraconference:
4 games x 4 divisionals: 16
3 games x 6 conference: 18
2 games x 4 conference: 8
You play your 14 conference rivals 42x

Interconference:
3 games x 8 teams: 24
2 games x 7 teams: 14

You play out of conference 38 times. The league loses 2 games but the biggest stars take 10 games off anyway and schedule contraction has been talked about. But as long as you play your geographic conference 52 times and the other conference just 30, play your own conference in the postseason.
 
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The NBA has done a solid job of convincing people that this game has any long term ramifications beyond that play-in game. Portland won their play-in game last year and you had too many people convinced they stood a chance against the Lakers. It's the least effective Wild Card-esque situation in sports


Yeah.

Play in or not I have a hard time caring about anything that happens to 7-8 seeds. 95% lose in the first round and of those that win like
99% lose the following round. So it's all whatever to me.

Of course I've become more casual towards the NBA every year for the last 5ish years so I'm a lil biased.
 
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