This nikka Drake lacks substance and is an average rhymer SOHH what EXACTLY is his appeal

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HELL NO lmao that's some dumb sh*t




Drake is the KING.......of cringyness and faking it, he's Poisoning the Youth Breh

Very true, the pinnacle of poison. Check the other Drake thread too lol, pussies butthurt lol.
 

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No they are legends because they make great music

The ones on that list that I've heard

And yes Drake is a legend

After you've finished sucking Drake off, take the time out from poisning yourself and listen to some REAL sh*t lol, a legend? are you for real? it's people like yourself that's damaging the culture..... Drake is whack as f*ck, definitely no substance, no versatility, no nothing. the reason why artists like Pac, KRS, Pun, Biggie, Nas, Jay, Kane, Rakim and all these GREATS are held in such high esteem is because of the quality of work they've amassed over the years! not to mention the high level calibre of skill they brought while doing it. Drake has never done a song like this/these and never will.....













 

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I'm not trying to chose the reason you listen to anything but for you to say subject matter and substance is weak criticism is bullshyt. Read these names
Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Bob Marley, Prince, 2Pac, Stevie Wonder, Willie Nelson...all are legends because of the SUBSTANCE in there music. Do you really think Drake is anywhere CLOSE to this level?? He is a mid level talent at best.

It's not that is a weak criticism but I think 'substance' is a bit of a cop out just strictly based on the fact it can be very much up to the person if they feel like it has substance or not. Also just because something may have substance doesn't make it a great song to some.

For example I think Brenda Has A Baby is a cool concept for a song, it has substance, I personally like the song. I however have seen a ton of people that say its a poor song. I think Nas 'I can' has good substance to it but is a bad song IMO. I don't like listening to it at all when it comes on.

Rod you know i got respect for your knowledge and all that but now you are moving the goal posts. You went from saying Drake wasn't as good as SOHH rappers but then turn around to say 'Well do you think hes on par with...' then named 7 of the most prolific music artists of the last 50 years.
 

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It's not that is a weak criticism but I think 'substance' is a bit of a cop out just strictly based on the fact it can be very much up to the person if they feel like it has substance or not. Also just because something may have substance doesn't make it a great song to some.

For example I think Brenda Has A Baby is a cool concept for a song, it has substance, I personally like the song. I however have seen a ton of people that say its a poor song. I think Nas 'I can' has good substance to it but is a bad song IMO. I don't like listening to it at all when it comes on.

Rod you know i got respect for your knowledge and all that but now you are moving the goal posts. You went from saying Drake wasn't as good as SOHH rappers but then turn around to say 'Well do you think hes on par with...' then named 7 of the most prolific music artists of the last 50 years.
Nah...I was directly referencing the clown who called him a legend. I was stating that damn near anyone whom has legendary status were great writers or composers. I was quoting legendary artists in multiple genres and all of them were know for their substance. Like I have stated in this thread already, I have enjoyed some of drake's music including up to NWTS. It's just that now he has done nothing but spit pretty much the same 3 or 4 verses with switch up for whatever styling the song is. And this is what the world's TOP Rapper is now??? :dahell: It could be said that maybe I'm too old to understand BUT I see his peers doing things with their music that he literally RUNS from. And he is fukking the game up cause he got the OG's acting crazy in regards to him...he is NOT worth all the bullshyt that is coming with him.
 

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His Music appeals directly to women of all ages, sensitive lightskin nikkas and Because he is half Jewish and Canadian white people can easily accept him as much as nikkas can. He is as much a corny white dude as he is the cocky ladies man "champagne papi" imo. I don't hate his music(I enjoyed his latest work) but he will continue being successful because he knows he doesn't have to be super lyrical or make music of substance even tho we all know he is fully capable. Mainstream America will love him because he is at heart a good guy who is in touch with his feelings and the hood loves him because they see this dude as this character he has created for himself "champagne papi". At the end of the day if we don't like it we don't have to listen. He will never be one of the greats imo as making catchy songs/hits don't equate to greatness to me. He is more like Nelly 2k15 imo but that'll be an unpopular opinion. Either way he'll be around for a while as long as he follows he current blueprint.

Not women of all ages. Shallow women and dumb broads. I always feel this nikka is saying exactly what he THINKS a women wants to here. He comes across as the guy that never got a girl until he got famous. (Or friends for that matter) And probably still gets played out:heh:.
 

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I didn't even fukk with drake like that until my music sense changed and got over that arrogant way of thinking shyt isn't "real hip hop"...

As much as i can appreciate someone like Immortal tech or k -rino...

...Their shyt puts me too sleep and the only time i am in the mood for it is when i'm home alone....and even then they really don't make good MUSIC IMO...

... I can listen to drake when im out...in the club...in the car...at the gym....or when im by myself...cause the music is GOOD...

Im not listening to drake for life advice or deep thought-provoking lyrics...I'm listening for bangers....which he provides...

Iv'e also been thinking....

Iv'e never been motivated when listenin to a immortal tech, k rino ect.,

...But when a drake comes on i get pumped up and that makes me pumped for my day/ if im at the gym i go just THAT much harder....

...So at the end of the day drake has had a more POSITIVE affect on my life than the others....SMH never thought i'd say that....:mjcry::merchant:

...But i respect all artists listed here....Music is emotion and sometimes you want to get pumped....:blessed:
 

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I didn't even fukk with drake like that until my music sense changed and got over that arrogant way of thinking shyt isn't "real hip hop"...

As much as i can appreciate someone like Immortal tech or k -rino...

...Their shyt puts me too sleep and the only time i am in the mood for it is when i'm home alone....and even then they really don't make good MUSIC IMO...

... I can listen to drake when im out...in the club...in the car...at the gym....or when im by myself...cause the music is GOOD...

Im not listening to drake for life advice or deep thought-provoking lyrics...I'm listening for bangers....which he provides...

Iv'e also been thinking....

Iv'e never been motivated when listenin to a immortal tech, k rino ect.,

...But when a drake comes on i get pumped up and that makes me pumped for my day/ if im at the gym i go just THAT much harder....

...So at the end of the day drake has had a more POSITIVE affect on my life than the others....SMH never thought i'd say that....:mjcry::merchant:

...But i respect all artists listed here....Music is emotion and sometimes you want to get pumped....:blessed:
I used to listen for the bangers as well...but I think he keeps remaking the same song on every "hot" beat but even those are coming far and few in between. He literally says the same shyt in every song ie...I'm the man in my city:birdman:; I rep my city:salute:; I fukked hoes in this city:gladbron:; even when y'all hating on me I get love in some city:to:; I got a lot of money:sas1:; I gave hoes a lot of money because I can in yo city :mjpls:
over some overly airy moist production with a 90's r&b sample...spin and recycle :yeshrug:
 

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I used to listen for the bangers as well...but I think he keeps remaking the same song on every "hot" beat but even those are coming far and few in between. He literally says the same shyt in every song ie...I'm the man in my city:birdman:; I rep my city:salute:; I fukked hoes in this city:gladbron:; even when y'all hating on me I get love in some city:to:; I got a lot of money:sas1:; I gave hoes a lot of money because I can in yo city :mjpls:
over some overly airy moist production with a 90's r&b sample...spin and recycle :yeshrug:


...Thats the thing though, i just got into appreciating "bangers" instead of hating em lmao...I'm just getting into accepting song for what they are, whether uit be a swag banger, to a back-pack rapper, and everything in between....
 

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Nah...I was directly referencing the clown who called him a legend. I was stating that damn near anyone whom has legendary status were great writers or composers. I was quoting legendary artists in multiple genres and all of them were know for their substance. Like I have stated in this thread already, I have enjoyed some of drake's music including up to NWTS. It's just that now he has done nothing but spit pretty much the same 3 or 4 verses with switch up for whatever styling the song is. And this is what the world's TOP Rapper is now??? :dahell: It could be said that maybe I'm too old to understand BUT I see his peers doing things with their music that he literally RUNS from. And he is fukking the game up cause he got the OG's acting crazy in regards to him...he is NOT worth all the bullshyt that is coming with him.

Oh okay, my bad. I read it out of context then.

There is NO WAY he is a legendary artist. He's not even on the path. I like doods music too. Clearly not on the same side of the fence as you are on this one but theres not enough marijuana in Los Angeles to get me high enough to think he's a legend.

Does he run from it or is he just giving his fans what they want? Or maybe, which might be what you are trying to say, is he capable of doing it well?

As far as the attention he gets, he makes popular music that people party to. It's not like he's Lil B who is complete trash getting all this attention :yeshrug:
 

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yeah im back at it. some people dont want to be preached to in music. they listen to it to get away mentally from thinking about the struggle and all the BS they put up with all day. why cant you OGs just agree to disagree and let the boy live? ok you want conscious to be at the forefront what are you doing about it besides complaining on blogs and going in on people that dont share your views?
 

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yeah im back at it. some people dont want to be preached to in music. they listen to it to get away mentally from thinking about the struggle and all the BS they put up with all day. why cant you OGs just agree to disagree and let the boy live? ok you want conscious to be at the forefront what are you doing about it besides complaining on blogs and going in on people that dont share your views?
:whoa: I just asked a question on why he's the Kang right now when's he's so average...calm down playa
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