Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

Is Thomas Sowell right about Welfare?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 32.4%
  • No

    Votes: 12 35.3%
  • Partially right

    Votes: 11 32.4%

  • Total voters
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William F. Russell

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"Shouldn't" and reality are two different things. People are in tough positions for a number of different reasons and we live in country that can afford to help

It's not a black issue, poverty is universal in every system, but especially one designed for it to be so

Pure capitalism is sink or swim. Yes, the reality is that people are struggling and they're in fukked up predicaments. But it doesn't change the fact that welfare also enables complacency and abuse of the system.
 

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How does this keep black pepper down?


What are the percentage of people you claim to be living off the system?

And your second paragraph is not 100% true
Basically, the system wasn't designed to actually help blacks---it was for whites. It's a system of control for us. Got it? I think like 30% of blacks are on welfare. That's significant.
 

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People always are quick to tear down blacks like Cosby, Ben Carson, and Thomas Sowell, when these dudes have accomplished more coming from poorest, blackest, places in the US and have done more for black people from an individual standpoint than the folks trying to tear them down.

Saying "hey black people what we've been doing has been failing miserable, maybe ya'll should consider these strategies instead" is not equivalent to saying fukk black people.

At the end of the day they want to see blacks be prosperous and successful as much as anybody else, they just believe in different methods of obtaining that goal.
 

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Hes an old c00n and a Moron

This dude said welfare was worse for blacks than slavery and you expect me to entertain this bullshyt?

Some of these idiots will still entertain it not see the tap dancing behind the stupidity he's spewing
 

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Pure capitalism is sink or swim. Yes, the reality is that people are struggling and they're in fukked up predicaments. But it doesn't change the fact that welfare also enables complacency and abuse of the system.

But pure capitalism is also problematic.

Yes, people exploit the welfare system but it has to exist.

No ifs or buts.

A person losing their job and not being able to make the bills shouldn't lead to homelessness.

The system of support to help citizens has to remain intact.
 

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not true.

you have to either work or be seeking work.

plus based on number of kids. very few of these homes have a bunch of kids... and the majority have jobs.

Looking for work is a low standard under the welfare system though.

And people who receive welfare even when working are sad in my opinion.
 

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This dude said welfare was worse for blacks than slavery and you expect me to entertain this bullshyt?
Some of these idiots will still entertain it not see the tap dancing behind the stupidity he's spewing
Except he never said that...
Did ya'll actually read the OP?

He said the same thing he has always said, that liberal welfare policies did way more to break up the black family structure and cause the current social dysfunction in black communities, than slavery.
 

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But pure capitalism is also problematic.

Yes, people exploit the welfare system but it has to exist.

No ifs or buts.

A person losing their job and not being able to make the bills shouldn't lead to homelessness.

The system of support to help citizens has to remain intact.

What incentive for high performance exists for a working person who KNOWS that welfare is available should s/he lose his/her job?
 

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Some of these idiots will still entertain it not see the tap dancing behind the stupidity he's spewing

Lol its like... Why does everything have to be compared to slavery? Or worse than slavery? Hip Hop is worse than slavery, gang violence, weaves, single mothers etc etc... I think these dudes forgot what slavery even was.

Finally, blaming the victim is what people like this superc00n and bill cosby et al do. They blame black poverty essentially on air jordans and rims and give their corporate masters a pass.

This dude even said black people had more respect for themselves back in the day. How the fukk would you be able to measure that? This dude is not an economist at all :mjlol:
 

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Jim Crow and Slavery effects still linger, but it doesn't change the fact the welfare is a crutch, that a lot of people abuse, and subsidizes a lot of bad behavior. And the crazy thing is even a lot of black people feel that way, not the just middle class ones, a lot of nikkas in the hood disagree with how much welfare props certain people up; but conservative have burnt their bridges with black so much most black would never vote for them even if they agree on a few key points.

The idea of black being for welfare, and evil whites trying to take it away is a myth/exaggeration


He really didn't say anything to prove welfare isn't a crutch.

To say "jim crow and slavery effects still linger, but...." isnt a defendable statement. If you dont acknowledge a significant relationship and cause and effect you're a racist.

Socio-economic policy and systemic treatment have simply grown from blacks being a slave race, which is why studies show that job applicants with "black sounding names" dont receive call backs versus those with "white sounding names" despite having the exact same resume. Why white felons have better job prospects than black men with clean criminal backgrounds.

If govt welfare is such a "crutch" then why do white people and big business love it so much? The misconception is that businesses and conservatives hate "handouts" which explains money grants, lobbying, subsidies, pork barrels, tax breaks, and how the white middle class built their wealth through new deal policies from the govt. made unavailable to blacks of course. Again, as I said, it was practically forbidden to invest in black communities in modern times, which created decay and dysfunction and hence welfare.

The thinnest book in the world would have a title of "how America has positively invested in black communities"...
 

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Except he never said that...
Did ya'll actually read the OP?

He said the same thing he has always said, that liberal welfare policies did way more to break up the black family structure and cause the current social dysfunction in black communities, than slavery.
how the fukk is this even possible? Slavery literally broke up black families by having different members sold to different slave owners on a regular basis. Do you guys fact check anything? My god
 
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