Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

[DEAD7]

"38.8 percent of Caucasians, and 39.8 percent of African-Americans are on welfare" "more whites are on welfare" "white are the majority on welfare"


This statistic, and belief hurt my head... and they aren't going away I see.


It implies (actually it straight up says) that roughly 40 percent of whites are on welfare, as are roughly 40 percent of blacks. That is not accurate. "40 percent of welfare recipients are white" which a completely different proposition than "40 percent of whites are welfare recipients"
Basically, it's trying to say, "It's about even," even though it's actually nowhere close to even.
We need to understand that there is a much higher percentage of blacks on welfare than that of whites, which is belied by this statistic. It makes it seem like the problem (whatever you think the problem is, depending on your perspective) is spread evenly, when in fact it very much is not.

 

[William F. Russell]

It'll also be a joke to do such.

Every Western country needs a solid welfare system.

A high level of homelessness is a bigger burden than housing benefits.....

Personally, I wouldn't remove it but I'd keep it as a system for those living in the most impoverished conditions.

 

[DEAD7]

Tomas Sowell is just a paid shill for the white racists.

Dismissal ≠ Disproval

 

[William F. Russell]

I live in Berlin but remember in an Economist too... Economics and maths is my major.

Welfare isn't the issue with the current US economy.

It's certainly an issue--whether you're talking about government bailouts or individual instances because the middle/working-class is the group of citizens who bear the brunt of it via raised taxes and increased costs of living.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

"38.8 percent of Caucasians, and 39.8 percent of African-Americans are on welfare" "more whites are on welfare" "white are the majority on welfare"


This statistic, and belief hurt my head... and they aren't going away I see.


It implies (actually it straight up says) that roughly 40 percent of whites are on welfare, as are roughly 40 percent of blacks. That is not accurate. "40 percent of welfare recipients are white" which a completely different proposition than "40 percent of whites are welfare recipients"
Basically, it's trying to say, "It's about even," even though it's actually nowhere close to even.
We need to understand that there is a much higher percentage of blacks on welfare than that of whites, which is belied by this statistic. It makes it seem like the problem (whatever you think the problem is, depending on your perspective) is spread evenly, when in fact it very much is not.

So if statistically that is the case, which I'm not arguing it isn't, is it government safety nets and other public services that are the main cause of issues that impact the black community...or something else more systemic within society?

 

[DrX]

The Crackers in the government never gave us our 40 acres and a mule, so fukk them crackers. take anything these crackers in the government will give you.

disagree bro, welfare was a power move to keep blacks depended on white elites and also break up the homes


nixon said it himself....keep n1ggers on welfare

 

[Theraflu]

Personally, I wouldn't remove it but I'd keep it as a system for those living in the most impoverished conditions.

I.e make it harder to claim.

If you were to remodel the system what would be your guideline?

Does the man who has paid into the system for 20 years not get it because he isn't impoverished enough.

How will you ideally have the system so people don't exploit it?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Easy...A lot of people are living off the system. Furthermore, I know a lot of cats who get disability checks(mental). This helps to keep black people down. You are only allowed to earn so much money if you get a SSI check. My homeboy lives in a fairly new two-story home---his rent is $97 a month.

If an unemployed chick gets pregnant--Uncle Sam will give her an apartment in the hood and an EBT card.

How does this keep black pepper down?


What are the percentage of people you claim to be living off the system?

And your second paragraph is not 100% true

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Sorry to be mean, but people who either agree or partially agree with Sowell just arent very bright.

His premise is dysfunctional and completely incoherent. Hes taking unique historical variables specific to one group: Jim Crow and slavery, and he's conflating that with a general socio-economic variable of welfare thats available to all. And yet he considers the unique variables an "excuse" for consumption of the general variable, without measuring its explanatory, response value, or interactions. It would be like saying people who use canes are lazier than people who dont have to use canes, w/o further explanation, when the former had their eyes gouged out.

@Scientific Playa beat me to it. Redlining was a policy designed specifically to destroy the economic potential and stability of black neighborhoods, so we're not talking capitalism anymore but sabotage. Neighborhoods were no go zones for lending or investment...you couldnt get insurance for a business, and you couldnt obtain mortgages on homes. Businesses moved, Renters bounced to places they could buy, and landlords became slumlords. Black neighborhoods became jobless hellholes: enter welfare.

In the 1950s, statistical and observational analysis predicted these problems. Empiricists understood that imaginative policies against blacks, both public and private, were designed to isolate and economically depress black people suppressing mobility and growth.

I could write a novel on this, but first no one would read it here, and why do so when Sowell is a noted liar, and only produces works designed to continue antebellum narratives against blacks that have been transmitted and have survived from generation to generation. Racist notions of blacks being lazy and dumb dont die, they modify.

 

[DEAD7]

So if statistically that is the case, which I'm not arguing it isn't, is it government safety nets and other public services that are the main cause of issues that impact the black community...or something else more systemic within society?

You're shifting the discussion... but it is headed there anyway so

It isn't "something", its white supremacy. Plain and simple.

 

[Theraflu]

It's certainly an issue--whether you're talking about government bailouts or individual instances because the middle/working-class is the group of citizens who bear the brunt of it via raised taxes and increased costs of living.

Breh the wealth gap and the fact that the actual middle class are disappearing is a bigger issue.

That's something we should be genuinely worried about. The welfare system will continue to exist (as it should).

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Kinda, sorta...

no it is totally true

the % of cacs in America on welfare are lower than blacks


but there are and have always been MORE cacs on welfare than blacks


basically

a black person in America has a higher chance of being on welfare

but cacs have always been the majority of the welfare system




dont let propaganda fool u

 

[TNC]

Blacks are 2x as likely to be on welfare as whites.

Blacks make up 32% of welfare recipients when we are only 12% of the population.

Everything else, I agree with.

There is your problem right there. Why are blacks so much more "likely" to be on welfare? Are blacks incapable of succeeding or is the deck stacked against them to succeed? If you are racist, you'll see what the obvious answer here is.


And Whites make up 40% of welfare recipients, the largest group. Tell me why and how white people, the largest and most dominant race in America, has the highest amount of people on welfare or government assistance?

 

[Micky Mikey]

Welfare and prison industrial complex did what slavery nor Jim crow couldn't; destroy the black family.

 

[TRY GOD]

THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE ON WELFARE THAN ANY RACE IN AMERICA.

WELFARE ISN'T THE PROBLEM. WHITE SUPREMACY IS.