Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

Is Thomas Sowell right about Welfare?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 32.4%
  • No

    Votes: 12 35.3%
  • Partially right

    Votes: 11 32.4%

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Blackking

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Welfare is a drop in the fukkin bucket yo.
A program largely utilized by poor white people.

You want to help people get on their feet?
Cut back the 700 billion dollar spending each year toward the military and invest that money into schools, manufacturing, infrastructure and social programs that keep kids out of boredom and trouble so they develop skills and get interested in shyt that might propel them to lucrative careers.

Motherfukkers.

the american people vote for these politicians.

Most consistent voters aren't on welfare ------- So it's people complaining fault for the Over the Top military Budget.


why cut the legs and benefits from some of the people (and their families) who Actually Do do something not worthless. ??
 

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he's wrong. welfare makes nothing worse. which is really social responsibility ( and indirectly helps us all )

But having so called welfare without more focus on Early childhood education and free first two years of college --------- is like giving up on our society.
Thats was their only intent. Only.
 

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what are you saying?
Their intent was to siphon the wealth. Those without were meant to have nothing. When they put children on the train tracks and tie them to it, isnt it pointless to print in the newspaper that a child died by a train?
 

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he's wrong. welfare makes nothing worse. which is really social responsibility ( and indirectly helps us all )

But having so called welfare without more focus on Early childhood education and free first two years of college --------- is like giving up on our society.
He isn't flat-out wrong. Welfare's availability lead to generational hubris. As long as it is there, people haven't put a magnifying glass
over things that require more scrutiny, as in why funding is so lopsided in minority neighborhoods vs others, how standardized testing fukks
with urban public schools more than rural ones, etc.

Think of Walmart: Pay shytty wages and encourage its own workers to get on welfare to fill the gaps of their lack of gainful employment.

Welfare overall helps people of all backgrounds, but it also placates people who really should be questioning the system more.
 

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Their intent was to siphon the wealth. Those without were meant to have nothing. When they put children on the train tracks and tie them to it, isnt it pointless to print in the newspaper that a child died by a train?

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It's sorta of pointless even dissing welfare and these programs if we are going to have a Capitalistic system ........word to @DEAD7
I know i know... we claim to have a 'mixed economy' ..... and not "pure capitalist"......... but the only thing that's 'mixed' is the fact that we supposedly have funds being pumped in By the Fed government ( 1/3 of the total) ........
(unbacked funds pumped by the fed res to make rich people wealthier and to save failed Big Business corps, etc. printed on worthless paper that basically enslaves the bottom 97% of Americans)

but that ties into the moral aspects of capitalism......... or should I say immoral. :wow:

I know i know i know......... ethics do not apply to economic systems. Well , has anyone read or heard the speeches and reasons why every economic system on planet earth and in every nation was created. some don't even try to hide it, but for those that do ( like the US ) its fake. We are talking shyt about people on welfare in a way to call them lazy and claim that the system is holding them back and say they are making excuses.
But then when flaws in the systems, Wealth Gaps, disenfranchisement, economic oppression, race politics that affect the finances of certain groups, trickel down economics that only trickle to the upper middle and top classes, etc ---------------
we simple respond with :sas2: Capitalism has no morals:upsetfavre:
 

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He isn't flat-out wrong. Welfare's availability lead to generational hubris. As long as it is there, people haven't put a magnifying glass
over things that require more scrutiny, as in why funding is so lopsided in minority neighborhoods vs others, how standardized testing fukks
with urban public schools more than rural ones, etc.

Think of Walmart: Pay shytty wages and encourage its own workers to get on welfare to fill the gaps of their lack of gainful employment.

Welfare overall helps people of all backgrounds, but it also placates people who really should be questioning the system more.

Every person should be questioning the system more.

Welfare has produces and spawned some of our greatest so called Americans when they were children.

The generational laziness is anecdotal and is less than 10%. Most poor people want to do better. Some do still end up on welfare like their parents, but We don't have systems in place that would even allow for Mass class mobility. We don't have education systems in place to allow for mass stoppage of ignorance. and this is regardless of any race.

What we do have is random nikkas making it. lol, it's funny to me because mostly everyone i know hasn't 'made it' and those of us that do....... that shyts fake. Sure we work hard - but the same system allows for a few slips in the crakks for those that are Most Willing ( not to succeed but ) to Help unknowingly perpetuate the system.

Welfare isn't affecting the top class of Americans or most politicians. They low key want to keep it going because the side affects are positive ( like feeding children, placating nikkas and Crakkers, and keeping some families going that might vote for the fake two party political system ) . What the middle class and the others who complain about the poor don't notice is that Every time we hit a recession or every time we have to give out More food stamps or every time we do any of this shyt ............... the Wealth gaps between the Middle class and the elite increases, lol. .............. When news reports say shyt like "economic turmoil' or "recession" or whatever - the rich get richer..... ..
and the Rich and the corrupt and the People who Actually DO HAVE more control of the situations are criticized 500+% Less than the poor (and 'minorities').

keeps us fighting. keeps black men talkign about welfare queens and keeps white men talking about welfare queens --- lol, and what everyone low key has in mind is slick ways of saying fat black hood bytch w a bunch of kids ............... nobody is thinking about who has the majority of welfare cases Or about their increasing wealth gaps, or the oppression of the middle class. :dead:
 

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If you address the corporate greed than welfare would not even be an issue.
 

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Every person should be questioning the system more.

Welfare has produces and spawned some of our greatest so called Americans when they were children.

The generational laziness is anecdotal and is less than 10%. Most poor people want to do better. Some do still end up on welfare like their parents, but We don't have systems in place that would even allow for Mass class mobility. We don't have education systems in place to allow for mass stoppage of ignorance. and this is regardless of any race.

What we do have is random nikkas making it. lol, it's funny to me because mostly everyone i know hasn't 'made it' and those of us that do....... that shyts fake. Sure we work hard - but the same system allows for a few slips in the crakks for those that are Most Willing ( not to succeed but ) to Help unknowingly perpetuate the system.

Welfare isn't affecting the top class of Americans or most politicians. They low key want to keep it going because the side affects are positive ( like feeding children, placating nikkas and Crakkers, and keeping some families going that might vote for the fake two party political system ) . What the middle class and the others who complain about the poor don't notice is that Every time we hit a recession or every time we have to give out More food stamps or every time we do any of this shyt ............... the Wealth gaps between the Middle class and the elite increases, lol. .............. When news reports say shyt like "economic turmoil' or "recession" or whatever - the rich get richer..... ..
and the Rich and the corrupt and the People who Actually DO HAVE more control of the situations are criticized 500+% Less than the poor (and 'minorities').

keeps us fighting. keeps black men talkign about welfare queens and keeps white men talking about welfare queens --- lol, and what everyone low key has in mind is slick ways of saying fat black hood bytch w a bunch of kids ............... nobody is thinking about who has the majority of welfare cases Or about their increasing wealth gaps, or the oppression of the middle class. :dead:
Oh absolutely. I say it all the time, and this is with respect to the entire American population, but the only way for things to get better is for them
to get way worse. Everyone who is currently comfortable with the system have little attachment to the ills of those who aren't comfortable.
This doesnt mean that plenty of people couldn't make something of themselves, but even if we win today, we aren't changing anything if we take our
ball and go home once the money is in our pocket.

The country lucked itself into prosperity a few times, many of those eras experienced in post-war economies in which we had the advantage because
another country was blown to bits. The schism is too great at the moment for any real change to happen. Nobody likes change that doesn't produce
tangible and immediate benefits for themselves. This goes for blacks, whites, etc. So in the case of opinions like Thomas Sowell, there is no real
right or wrong answer on how to do these things, the problem is inaction. We never know what works best to alleviate struggling people because
we take baby steps, save for, once again, major programs in post-war economies. The New Deal comes to mind.
 

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If you address the corporate greed than welfare would not even be an issue.
Not true. Corporate greed is only some of the picture. Without rampant corporate greed, we still face the issue of modernization and automation
harming a growing population. The solutions are out there, but again, people don't like change.

We are technologically advancing ourselves out of jobs, and lost arts like agriculture means when a man doesn't have a job, he can't fall back on
hunting and growing food to live on, assuming he wants to take generational leaps backward and not have access to shiny things like Ipads
and the latest Jordans. The entire world culture is due for a shift in perspective.
 
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