Thoughts on speaking a foreign language @ work??

[Givethanks]

Does it effect the paycheck?

If you lived in Canada east of Toronto, you'd have French speakers who speak English, speak in French to you, knowing damn well 90% of the population communicates in English.

That's such a dikk move lol, because it's not like they struggle to speak English. But if they do, you just tell them to wait and grab a French speaker which will be the person next to you.

 

[Gains]

if the conversation has nothing to do with you mind your own business

 

[Commish]

I agree with you. That is rude.

It just never ends there. People start feeling outnumbered and get in their feelings, and very quickly turn into karening harpies yelling

SPEAK ENGLISH


at two people saying hello to each other in the morning when they walk in before the business day even starts...simply because they did it in another language.




Also, nobody ever seems to think it rude when the English speakers are in the majority and they're the ones being exclusionary. It works both ways.





Depends on the business and scale, I'd guess. If it's a small-thinking Jackson Hewitt franchise serving a local community of people then sure. PWC isn't about to make that mistake.

Lemme put this into perspective.

This morning, an anonymous on a city (my city) FB page, went on SM to lament how she was going thru a hostile work environment.

She stated that her supervisor(s) complained about her and her co workers speaking Spanish and were talking iish about the supervisor. Let's assume that the supervisor is white.

She further stated that the supervisor was harassing them my stating that they are slow, dumb, to hurry up, etc.

But, the key point is despite the supervisor being egregiously disrespectful, said supervisor "felt" that the Spanish speakers were being disrespectful by using a non-English Speaking language in his/her presence.

Now, who is right and wrong?

My position is that all parties involved are wrong. Why? Because all parties involved were "offended" by each other's language, work performance, etc.


The anonymous person confessed that she was discussing non work related topics on company time. They just did it in Spanish.

Could the supervisor confirm that the subordinates were telling the truth? No, hence one of the issues.

Also, assuming you are Blk, then you know that white folks don't typically play fair in the workplace with exceptions of course.

Any supervisor who has the temerity to talk crazy to their workers will also play dirty politics, if put into a situation.

That's what they do!

If the supervisor was Blk, then that supervisor would have been fired!! We all know this!

That's why it is important for ppl to play the game how it needs to be played in order to survive. If the environment becomes too hostile and if all protocol is done to get a good case going, then by all means handle one's 🕯!!

 

[Commish]

I'm pretty sure people ate allowed to have their private moments even if its at work. You all cry about work from home and companies trying to control the work environment like a slaveship but then if it comes down to petty offenses now all of a sudden you breaking the policies out.

I guess it depends on the situation. cuz its no way youre going to convince anybody with the "on the clock" argument. Its a good percentage of yime that people bill for being on the clock but they doing other ish. Im sure i can look up your post history and spot you posting while you on the clock lol. Whats your schedule

My point is simple..

I don't have to convince you of anything. My main point is that ANYTHING you say or do at work can and/or may be used against you @ work.

Not sure how long you have been in the workforce, but I have enough and lived experience to speak on this topic confidently!

Yes, most places isn't stringent on languages spoken, but in the case of me bringing this topic back up, the language spoken was an issue coming from a supervisor!

This topic isn't about me. Not sure if you understand? It is a sentiment I have and agree based on someone else's alleged situation.

My work record is clean. My work ethic is rock solid! I don't have any issues with anyone at my job and I work with a gang of ppl!! Please believe that!

But, based on my lived experience plus training from past and present companies, I understand that conflicts arise for a myriad of reasons.

A common language should be universally spoken unless there is a need for other languages to be spoken.

Private conversations are allowed, but there are situations where it may be an issue. My past examples illustrated that point..

 

[Commish]

if the conversation has nothing to do with you mind your own business

OK..

Well, tell that to someone who is offended at work. I mind my business until someone make it my business!

Once again, you want privacy, them strive to keep your business private! *shrugs*

 

[Commish]

if the conversation has nothing to do with you mind your own business

OK..

Well, tell that to someone who is offended at work. I mind my business until someone make it my business!

Once again, yo

Does it effect the paycheck?

If you lived in Canada east of Toronto, you'd have French speakers who speak English, speak in French to you, knowing damn well 90% of the population communicates in English.

That's such a dikk move lol, because it's not like they struggle to speak English. But if they do, you just tell them to wait and grab a French speaker which will be the person next to you.

Well..

I don't know??

I can speculate that it could affect the paycheck, if the person offended (a boss) can affect your livelihood..

Canada got their own work politics. What I am speaking on occurred in the US.

My state is the most populated state and is multicultural.

But, I know that in the private sector and/or state/government sector has rules and guidelines that all persons have to abide by.

Bottomline, those who choose to be offended by what is said or how it is said at work has just cause to file a complaint whether you, myself or anyone else like it or not. *shrugs*

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

Yes, most places isn't stringent on languages spoken, but in the case of me bringing this topic back up, the language spoken was an issue coming from a supervisor!

The supervisor who you characterized as a dikkhead.... I rest my case

 

[Geek Nasty]

It's rude, not just at work in any social setting. This was one of those etiquette things that people forgot about.

 

[Gains]

OK..

Well, tell that to someone who is offended at work. I mind my business until someone make it my business!

Once again, yo


Well..

I don't know??

I can speculate that it could affect the paycheck, if the person offended (a boss) can affect your livelihood..

Canada got their own work politics. What I am speaking on occurred in the US.

My state is the most populated state and is multicultural.

But, I know that in the private sector and/or state/government sector has rules and guidelines that all persons have to abide by.

Bottomline, those who choose to be offended by what is said or how it is said at work has just cause to file a complaint whether you, myself or anyone else like it or not. *shrugs*

if it bothers you so much tell it to your HR rep how you feel

 

[CopiousX]

I hear you. I work with a gang of ESL ppl as well. I'll take it further...

I work with ex felons that been on level 4 yards on down. Crips, Bloods, Pirus, Southsiders, Hoovers, white supremacists, Democrats, Republicans, Blk Trump lovers, swirlers, Jews, LGBT, ppl who live out of state, etc. Huge workforce! Strong union membership!

But..

All of us have to abide by the rules to keep our jobs.

Doubt anyone gonna willingly do something to risk their jobs. Gotta watch what you say, how you say it in mixed company.

Got ppl who will also tell on your ass! Witness that which further taught me to regulate what come out of my mouth.

Some ppl simply don't like when ppl speak a foreign language. Those ppl have a right to be offended, especially when the condition of employment is to speak English.

Just saying..

This is not a good thing.

if it bothers you so much tell it to your HR rep how you feel

Spin : it's the HR reps that are speaking in a different language. ,


probably calling Op all kinds of names

 

[Commish]

if it bothers you so much tell it to your HR rep how you feel

Did you read the whole thread?

This topic isn't about me!

Best believe, if I wanna be a sntich @ work, then I would do it. But, Blk men can't snitch w/o repercussions.

 

[Gains]

Did you read the whole thread?

This topic isn't about me!

Best believe, if I wanna sntich on @ work, them I would do it. But, Blk men can't snitch w/o repercussions.

no i didn't , its silly

 

[Seoul Gleou]

As long as it's not during a meeting, I don't care

 

[cyndaquil]

I've spoken Yoruba at work, anyone with a problem can come see me about it

Bet. gimme your company name, address, and your full name

 

[Commish]

i work in journalism and pretty much everyone speaks english as a first language. the few people who dont, nobody else there speaks their language anyway

one time we had two designers who were both chinese and spoke chinese to each other and i didnt care

Cool. But, not everyone view it like you. That is the main point being missed by some posters.

Let me ask you a couple of questions..

If you spoke another language other than English and your boss told you that he or she was offended, would you still do it?

What if it is against company policy to speak a foreign language unless it is for business reasons, would you do it?