Tidal Keeps Sinking: Beyoncé And Rihanna Can’t Save ‘Biggest Disaster In Music History’ Read mor

[Bomberman]

The thing is it never really differentiated itself from spotify. If you could implement playlists that'll attract cats.

However you need a major move/feature. If ounwere able to straight up download the songs, then dude could have charged $30/month and came out with a ton of subscribers. Shyt, dude would probably take all of beats and spotify's customers with something like that.

Of course the music industry probably wouldn't like to see that though. But people are gonna pirate anyway and dude would be running the music industry.

 

[Versa]

I can't stand Jay, but no black person should be rooting for a black person's business to fail unless it's directly harming the black community.

Black entrenpeurship, black economics, and black support of the two is CRUCIAL for our progression in a world that's fiercely loyal to white supremacy.

So let's not take too much glee in wanting Jay-Z to fail when these cacs who own spotify and pandora in all likelihood are white supremacists who see us as nothing but animals: cash cows, race horses, and savage pit bulls.

 

[NobodyReally]

That's most peoples grip with it though, most articles are talking about how he presented it the wrong way. He came out the gate talking about how great the service is for "artist". It's like people on here keep skipping over that. shyt I don't even know what the owner of Spotify looks like, Yet Jay presented the image of it being about him and other artist. NOBODY in this thread have disagreed with the message of the article. They just keep on saying "It's because he's black" and "worst thing in music history".

Its funny, nobody in here are actually defending the product, they are defending Jay-z. Which says alot to me. I'm a programmer, which without us you wouldn't have anything on the app stores, but whens the last time you've seen

Apple
Google
Microsoft

dedicate big time advertising specially to us(programmers)?


I'm in the tech field and all of those companies have been talked about in a bad way, in the 90's Microsoft was the worse company in the world. You guys are just now hearing about this type of stuff because Jay-z is involved.

Underrated post.

 

[Cloud McFly]

I can't stand Jay, but no black person should be rooting for a black person's business to fail unless it's directly harming the black community.

Black entrenpeurship, black economics, and black support of the two is CRUCIAL for our progression in a world that's fiercely loyal to white supremacy.

So let's not take too much glee in wanting Jay-Z to fail when these cacs who own spotify and pandora in all likelihood are white supremacists who see us as nothing but animals: cash cows, race horses, and savage pit bulls.

This x100


But c00ns gonna c00n.

 

[notPsychosiz]

The internet has honestly fukked up true journalism. These corny, troll/shock titles for articles has no place in serious publications IMO.

Worst thing to happen in the history of the music industry? REALLY? So I guess Napster wasn't. You know the original service that let everyone know they can get this music for no cost via the Internet? LOL.

Its done intentionally.

Since launch there has been a concentrated effort to make Tidal appear unpopular or failing.
This is because kids are fickle. So the perception of unpopularity can be placed propaganda style to pre-emptively make something unpopular by having them avoid a service because they believe 'everyone else is avoiding it'

Likewise, were the media to push the narrative that 'everyone is using tidal, its the next thing' then those same kids would flock to it so as not to be left out.

These stories are placed intentionally to try and derail Tidal.

On another note, cost/worth/value are not the same thing. So the company is very likely worth 5 times as much as when purchased. Its do to brand recognition and many other factors that are outside of profits.
This is why a company that goes bankrupt like Atari can then sell their IP properties off. Because even though the company is in the red financially, the worth (which factors in potential) is still high due to brand recognition, money already spent on R&D for things like logos and staffing and infrastructure being in place.

 

[mrken12]

I can't stand Jay, but no black person should be rooting for a black person's business to fail unless it's directly harming the black community.

Black entrenpeurship, black economics, and black support of the two is CRUCIAL for our progression in a world that's fiercely loyal to white supremacy.

So let's not take too much glee in wanting Jay-Z to fail when these cacs who own spotify and pandora in all likelihood are white supremacists who see us as nothing but animals: cash cows, race horses, and savage pit bulls.

Exactly. Then again there is an unnecessarily cynical vibe from a lot of people here so they just hate everyone.

People probably forgot why they even hate Jay-Z.

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

So many hurt feels in here

 

[Atlrocafella]

I'm still on Pandora

 

[that_boy_kilso]

yall care to much, if tidal have a better rap catalogue than spotify (that actually lack some dope albums), than im signing up as soon as it is available here in Brazil...

i mean, whats the big deal? its not that big difference money wise, the hate for the camel is incredible, im starting to believe all this guys taking shot are on somebody's payroll...

 

[kingjones29]

he needs a free version if he wants to compete with spotify and the others

 

[Insensitive]

That's most peoples grip with it though, most articles are talking about how he presented it the wrong way. He came out the gate talking about how great the service is for "artist". It's like people on here keep skipping over that. shyt I don't even know what the owner of Spotify looks like, Yet Jay presented the image of it being about him and other artist. NOBODY in this thread have disagreed with the message of the article. They just keep on saying "It's because he's black" and "worst thing in music history".

Its funny, nobody in here are actually defending the product, they are defending Jay-z. Which says alot to me. I'm a programmer, which without us you wouldn't have anything on the app stores, but whens the last time you've seen

Apple
Google
Microsoft

dedicate big time advertising specially to us(programmers)?


I'm in the tech field and all of those companies have been talked about in a bad way, in the 90's Microsoft was the worse company in the world. You guys are just now hearing about this type of stuff because Jay-z is involved.

People keep harping on "Worst thing in music history" because it's obviously
hyperbolic bullshyt which isn't even remotely close to accurate.

There is no mention of the record label model taking a massive blow and several
majors closing shop, just 40 years ago there were several, now we've only got 3.
The power of clearl channel and how they dictate radio.
The value of music essentially dropping to zero with the coming of Napster and the continued
devaluation through p2p file sharing and the rise of torrents and file sharing sites.
Nor the various tragedies in the industry for instance what about Marvin Gaye ? John Lennon ? Bob Marley ?
Frankie Lymon ? Tupac ? Biggie ? Kurt Cobain ? Sid and Nancy ? And so many more ?


With that said I think they have a pretty competitive platform.

People already watch tons of artist generated content on youtube and they've provoen that they'll gladly
stream concerts and albums as well.
Hopsin for example managed to conjure up 14 million views for one of his last videos. Imagine if he was on a service that paid
out more handsomely than youtube does (he's independent so he'd eat considerably well off of it.)

When you put all of this under one roof instead of splitting it between different platforms TicketMaster/Youtube/Spotify
you've got a place for the fan to have what is essentially a "One stop shop".
On top of that he's giving all of this for just $10, think about that, nowadays people will pay $200 and up
to see their favorite artists in concert.

But if they can listen to that album, get discount tickets or a live stream AND exclusive content ? That's DOPE.
Spotify simply doesn't offer that, I mean if we're looking at Tidal and their plans to roll out more over time there's
just no comparison.
And since you pointed out that no one is defending "Tidal", did you notice none of these things were mentioned
in the article in question ?

These hit piece articles don't mention that because the point of the article is to slander Tidal and Jay-Z and put
him in the light of a "Snake" or a "Guy who just wants more money". The sort of stuff that the CEO of apple
or Google will never hear despite them holding positions in companies worth more than Jay-Z several times over.

 

[wire28]

Its funny, nobody in here are actually defending the product, they are defending Jay-z. Which says alot to me.

at the whole post but this right here,

 

[Dr. Acula]

Folks were claiming it failed even before it started. There is a lot of hate and smearing going on. I also find it quite odd that there is a certain segment of people who are spanking their shyt in hope of seeing another man fail. Smh.

 

[No1]

at the whole post but this right here,

It was not a good post. @Data-Hawk had truth sprinkled with a bunch of other unrelated stuff. I always hate when guys like that post because he's a smart cat (despite the fact that I disagree with him on a lot of things), but he allows other people who blindly hate to cling onto him for legitimacy. 98% of Tidal haters on here could not have articulated or pointed to what he said. Furthermore, why would people be defending Tidal the service in here when the argument is about the coverage of the service. People like @Malta are missing the entire point and that was in my first post in the thread.
Aside from that, Tidal has laid out what it does a bunch of times, but people in the media do not care. They're still telling you it costs 20 dollars per month. Have you noticed that very artist besides random euro bands has said Tidal is a good idea, but they don't know if it will work?

 

[Malta]

It was not a good post. @Data-Hawk had truth sprinkled with a bunch of other unrelated stuff. I always hate when guys like that post because he's a smart cat (despite the fact that I disagree with him on a lot of things), but he allows other people who blindly hate to cling onto him for legitimacy. 98% of Tidal haters on here could not have articulated or pointed to what he said. Furthermore, why would people be defending Tidal the service in here when the argument is about the coverage of the service. People like @Malta are missing the entire point and that was in my first post in the thread.
Aside from that, Tidal has laid out what it does a bunch of times, but people in the media do not care. They're still telling you it costs 20 dollars per month. Have you noticed that very artist besides random euro bands has said Tidal is a good idea, but they don't know if it will work?

Missing the point

Bruh, one service is free and the other isn't

I'm not a "tidal hater" or a Jay-Z hater, I don't pay for Cable TV you expect me to pay more for some service JUST cause Jay-Z owns it?

Offer the FLAC quality audio at the same price as spotify & make a free version, and people would switch, period.