Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant according to ESPN writer

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LOL @Malta shamelessly dapping up everyone who puts Duncan over Kobe no matter how shytty the article or the Kobe-hating poster haha. I'm not even mad :timmy:

Sorta like how you shamelessly dap up any pro-camel poster in the booth regardless of how absurd their comment is?
 
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In 09, Ginobili got hurt at the end of season and missed round 1 of the playoffs. In 2011, Duncan had injuries to his knee and both ankles and played through them quietly and Ginobili missed game 1 and played the rest of the series with a broken arm.

No shame in losing to OKC last year. They were a very good team and just better.

It's not like they got swept by a 3 seed in the 2nd round or anything.

But they got swept by the Suns a few years back and Dragic destroyed your squad. :what:
 

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But they got swept by the Suns a few years back and Dragic destroyed your squad. :what:

Yeah they got swept by a 3 when they were a 7. Duncan has his lows, but he never missed the offs once and was never lower than a 7. When he was a 7 they still beat a 2.
 

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The same nikkas talking about "5>4" spent the better part of the last 4 years telling me that Jordan's 6 didn't make him better than Kobe. You flip floppin ass nikkas :russ:

See, I'll tell you why we've said that...

It's because Kobe...

hold up

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What's that mom? You need me to run to the store....

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You're real lucky @Malta. I was about to throw you in the bushes with this post.
 
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Only time ive seen Duncan without pop as head coach was when him and bron led US to BRONZE medal and dude quickly quit on international play. Took Kobe to bring the US back to respectability and for that Duncan can never be ahead of Kobe. Lets not act like international play didnt expose TD
 

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cause in reality 2nd fiddle player average 37ppg in the WCF:comeon:

name 1 second-fiddle player that averaged 30ppg in a playoff series.

:heh:

Kobe groupies are allergic to reality

Exactly "clear 2nd fiddle players" don't average more in the pivotal playoff games than the primary option. Kobe had multiple games where he carried shaq and scored more than him to win. And before you begin on any "of course kobe would score more than shaq since he chucks it up", name other players who have similar feats in the playoffs as "clear 2nd fiddle players".
 

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Only time ive seen Duncan without pop as head coach was when him and bron led US to BRONZE medal and dude quickly quit on international play. Took Kobe to bring the US back to respectability and for that Duncan can never be ahead of Kobe. Lets not act like international play didnt expose TD

:obama: and both of those guys are supposedly better than Kobe all time.:childplease::duck:
 

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Duncan was top 5 from 99 (I'll say 98 without thinking about it too much, but this has a high chance of being wrong) until 08.

Kobe has been top 5 from 2001 until the present. So his period of being dominant has been longer. He's also had to drag much worse teams than Duncan into the playoffs and durability also plays in his favor. Kobe has been better for the second half of their careers and Duncan was better for the first half. Given that consistency, and the fact that he remains top 5, and a first-teamer while having much more competition than Duncan has at his (while failing to make the first team for awhile there), I'd give the nod to Kobe.

But I won't pretend that with this toss up that I won't side with Kobe more often than not. But I can't just sit here and ignore that Kobe has not had Duncan's luxury of playing reduced minutes at his advanced age.
 

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Only time ive seen Duncan without pop as head coach was when him and bron led US to BRONZE medal and dude quickly quit on international play. Took Kobe to bring the US back to respectability and for that Duncan can never be ahead of Kobe. Lets not act like international play didnt expose TD

factually your correct, but your argument is incomplete and misleading and here's why.

The 2004 USA squad was suppose to be an entirely different team than the players who were on the court.

Missing from the team was
Tmac
Shaq
Kobe
KG
Ray
Vince

and added in their place was
R Jefferson
Rookie Lebron
Rookie Wade
Rookie Melo
etc..

So not only was that team different, they had a bunch of rookies that just finished their first year playing for them. They had limited practice time togethor to build a repoire capable of getting them to the gold.

Also in 08 we had the team we were suppose to have, along with a seasonsed bron, wade, and melo who were all green from 04 and were top 10 players at this time. It was a lot more than just kobe being on the team. Fact is, they started practicing togethor more, had a new coach and a new system
 

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Duncan was top 5 from 99 (I'll say 98 without thinking about it too much, but this has a high chance of being wrong) until 08.

Kobe has been top 5 from 2001 until the present. So his period of being dominant has been longer. He's also had to drag much worse teams than Duncan into the playoffs and durability also plays in his favor. Kobe has been better for the second half of their careers and Duncan was better for the first half. Given that consistency, and the fact that he remains top 5, and a first-teamer while having much more competition than Duncan has at his (while failing to make the first team for awhile there), I'd give the nod to Kobe.

But I won't pretend that with this toss up that I won't side with Kobe more often than not. But I can't just sit here and ignore that Kobe has not had Duncan's luxury of playing reduced minutes at his advanced age.

Has Duncan had the luxury of being a #2 option for his first 8 years to extend his career to the effect that kobe had?

Has duncan had the luxury of playing for a coach who was at worse the second best coach in NBA history at the time of playing for them.

Imagine Duncan being able to essentially not carry the burden of putting up 30-15 every night how much less wear and tear he has now and how much better he would be?
 

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To win you one game, both at their primes the logical choice is Kobe. You're lying to yourself if you're choosing Duncan. Y'all damn well know Kobe could slow down the opposing teams best player and also come back on offense and give you 30+.

Plus if the game is close you know he has that clutch factor too.

Duncan is a good player but benefits from playing in a system where the ball is run through the post and and has an excellent coach. Kobe was great playing within the system Phil ran but was also great playing outside of it at times when the championship teams he played on were struggling down the stretch of key games.

Kobe is the more versatile player and brings more to the table. Kobe> Duncan

Kobe is the best player post Michael, please let's stop all this revisionist bullshyt.
What does 1 game mean in the NBA? Nothing. If you're starting a franchise and you have a choice between these 2 at 21 years old, you obviously take Duncan. Kobe is the 3rd best player post-Mike, and that's damn impressive.
 
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